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What??? I speak French as well if English isn't your first language

Well those with metaphysical claims, yes. But no all oral traditions are based in the supernatural, some are just geographical or agricultural information etc .. Ie: if your grandfather tells you were his grandfather worked, even without seeing a pay slip you can be pretty sure what he's saying is true and that could represent Almost 200 hundred years of " oral tradition"

"Yet apparently nobody is able to define what indigenous knowledge is." Let me try and explain this to someone with your specific beliefs. The knowledge of the indigenous is much like your Bible, a bunch of oral traditions passed on from generation to generation. The difference is the indigenous knowledge pre dates what your bible claims to be the beginning of time and has not suffered from as much political interference in the last few thousand years

Or maybe because everywhere else you mentioned was colonized by the French

If you don't know what the words "reasonable" and "expectation" mean you are ill-equipped for these kind of conversations. Period.

Although I'm no longer surprised, it still never ceases to amaze me how it's always those who claim to have the moral high ground that are always the ones to debate dishonestly But please don't stop spouting your ignorance and lies, people like you and blackbird do more to pull people out of their indoctrination and brainwashing than any scientist or atheist could ever, so thank you

My proof that reason uses logic? It's Are you going to be honest about the fact that faith and reason aren't the same thing, or are you okay with not being truthful

Ok I'll repeat myself since you ignored it before Egypt kept very good historical records: no mention of millions of Hebrews escaping, not to mention anything about the plagues. It was also around the 13th century Modern archeology has done numerous digs and found zero evidence that millions of Israelis wondered the desert for decades, as well as examining the bottom of the red sea and again found zero evidence of hundreds of Egyptians being swallowed by the sea I could do the same for many bible stories

My proof that reason uses logic? It's literally the definition

Believe what you choose, just admit you have no evidence of any of it I gave evidence there was no exodus ( the only claim I've made) prove me wrong

Is English not your first language? Reasonable uses reason and reason uses logic

No I'm not You just admitted my point Faith is used when there is no proof of the claim you're making, therefore not a path to truth in any circumstance

Exactly So very different from reasonable expectation

I agree but we're at an impasse because you're making up proprietary definitions to words

Words mean something you can't just make up meanings Do you even know how your bible defines faith?

Again just a claim please support this with evidence, or just admit you don't care if what you believe is true

So the answer is no you don't know the difference

Not only is that not true colloquially that not even true biblically

Honest question Do you understand the difference between making a claim and making an argument that is supported with facts?

What are you talking about faith I'll wake up? I'm in my late 30's in excellent physical condition with no preexisting conditions, I live in a country where life expectancy is in the 80s. Again that's not faith it's a reasonable expectation. Again you made a claim it's your job to prove it, but since you ignored the evidence I did give I'll assume you agree the exodus didn't happen?

You claimed that but haven't actually made an argument Please do

So back to faith, aka what one uses when they have no reasonable or rational arguments

Really? How do I use faith? You're right my beliefs are irrelevant to truth and so is faith. One can come to any belief using faith therefore not a path to truth I asked you for evidence and since you're the one making a claim the burden of proof is on you to prove it not me to prove the negative, but I'm guessing you have none Just for fun though let me drop some science on you. Based on extensive recorded history of the Egyptians and modern archeological digs, there is irrefutable evidence a mass exodus of Hebrews from Egypt and their 40 years in the wilderness never happened

So true And with thousands of different denominations in Christianity alone how would one know if the god they're pretending to believe in is the right one. Growing up I had one foster family that was Catholic and another that was fundamentalist baptist and they didn't pray to the same god

So the answer is you don't use faith outside your religious beliefs Faith Is different than reasonable expectations. I don't use or need faith that when I sit on a chair that it will hold my weight Please share any evidence you may have that the bible is true as I have alot of evidence for the contrary