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How about just most of the time? https://www.thenation.com/article/why-do-the-media-keep-parroting-trumps-falsehoods/ And then there are the people who watch FOX. https://defendingthetruth.com/threads/watching-only-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all.95171/

If you are going to insist on using the liars at FOX as a source then we can have no agreement. I'm finished with this discussion until you can come up with a source that does not act as Trump's mouthpiece.

I don't know. What do you think maintenance on a wall 3000 km long, nine meters high, and sunk six meters into the ground wold cost? I do know that if you built a road that long maintenance would begin on one end of it before it was even finished and no one would be trying to knock it down or tunnel under it.

You have over 50,000 posts and don't know how to stay on topic? It appears that I need not look to you for advice.

That's a bit of a myth. Far more native Americans were burned than White settlers. 9 Things You May Not Know About the Oregon Trail https://www.history.com/news/9-things-you-may-not-know-about-the-oregon-trail

Go ahead and think that if you wish. I'm not discussing Trudeau in a thread about Trump.

I quite agree that voters were taken in by Trudeau's boyish good looks and charm; especially compared to Harper and Mulcair. And I expect that he is in for a tough fight for re-election. However, a number of factors still weigh in his favour. One is the weakness of the opposition leaders he faces - Scheer and Singh do not seem up to the task. BTW - "the budget will balance itself" is fairly accurate as long as the GDP grows faster than the debt which is did up until the last budget. Of course, the government cannot continue to increase the debt or that goes straight out the window.

Our numbers are not the same. Mine give hiring more workers a fudge factor of several billion. Yours ignore both the actual cost of the wall and the disruptions it will cause on the US side as well as its maintenance costs.

Here's some advice. Do not repeat anything that Trump says as evidence of anything. Almost 7000 lies so far and counting. How has Trump hurt Americans? Count the ways. http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/09/trump-trumka-afl-cio-labor-day-15-ways-hurt-american-worker-populism.html Russia is not a threat? FOX News thinks it is. http://tass.com/world/1022243 The fact that China is also a threat does not detract from Russian meddling in US domestic and international affairs. I guess you missed the two years when Trump's party controlled both the House and the Senate. What did he get done? Remarkably little Your Canada comment is not relevant. This is a thread about Trump. BTW Trump is not worth my hate - in fact I hate very few politicians. I do feel sorry for the voters Trump has betrayed with his false promises and general incompetence.

I could care less. You are still off-topic. Start a "I hate Canada's foreign policy" thread if you like and we'll talk about it there.

It is still off-topic. However, Canada consulted with its allies before leaving and gave due warning. This is not what Trump did. Also I hardly think 6 aircraft would make much of a difference considering the number of aircraft supplied by other NATO nations. BTW Canada still has troops in Iraq. As usual Canada always seems to get involved in conflicts that do not involve it directly.

It has been like that for decades. If a Canadian has European ancestry then he is considered a European in some nations. In addition, each European team is allowed to recruit a certain number of foreign players.

The thread is about Trump. Feel free to start one about Canada's foreign policy if you wish.

Russia and Syria? So conceding the Middle east to the Russia and Iran is your solution? That will certainly go down well with the GOP. This is just going to be another nail in the Trump coffin. I don't see anything in your numbers that contradict mine. The wall is an expensive boondoggle. Fortunately it will never be built. BTW, the number of illegals attempting to cross the border has declined considerably in the last decade so there is actually less need of a wall or even border agents than before. Most of the concern over border crossing has been generated due to the hot air coming from Trump, and not any increase in actual border crossings.

I suspect that all people are not. The latest poll has the Liberals still leading all other parties. If the numbers do not change Trudeau will get a slim majority or at worst a minority government. Of course, thing could change over the next few months, but right now it appears that none of the other parties or their leaders has caught the imagination of the Canadian public.

Looks like I should have added my I have seen Trump supporters likened to sports fans and that seems an apt description in that they support him no matter how badly he plays the game and then claim victory with even a minor win. Supporting any sports team defies logic as does supporting Trump.

Not quite. In major league baseball there could be two teams from New York playing one another. The divisional struct exists only for regular season play.

Somehow I doubt O'Leary is the sort of personality Canada needs. An arrogant bullying style certainly has not worked for Trump in foreign relations.

It appears that you are placing the blame on the PM for a situation he did not create. However, that said, it is Canada against China and as I said a united front is best. Unfortunately, Canada has to rely on Trump and he is not known for helping anyone but himself.

Dealing with China requires a united front. Unfortunately, Trump's go it alone policy regarding China and his attacks on friendly nations have made that very difficult. Ideally China should be confronted by the EU, the United States, and Canada working together, but with Trump's bull-in-a-china-shop diplomacy that is probably not possible until he is replaced. That means waiting until 2021 at the earliest.

O'Leary would be a disaster. He dropped out of the last race for Conservative leadership when polls showed him trailing badly and also when the polls revealed that most people quite disliked his Ted Cruz personality.

Quite so. The government of Canada is between a rock and a hard place. It wishes to have Canada do its part in reducing global greenhouse gas emissions, but is under pressure from the oil producing provinces to get their oil to market. The simplest way to get people to use less energy is to raise prices through some sort of tax - remember that the jump in oil prices in the 1970s had a marked effect on fuel efficiency in automobiles and building construction. There are other ways to do this, one being that the government could actually give people tax breaks for buying hybrid or electric cars. Of course that would result in an immediate uproar from those who oppose subsidizing green energy and from the oil industry which does not want to see a drop in fuel consumption. Either way the government is going to face severe criticism; either from environmentalists or those who support the oil industry.

I'm not concerned with CNN. You seem to be fixated on that network, probably because it actually dares to report what Trump actually does. And you are completely wrong about the effect of Trump's actions regarding the last week and the wall. The last few days have been a complete disaster for Trump. First of all he forced an unnecessary shutdown of the US government, depriving tens of thousands of government employees of their paychecks. Then his defence secretary resigned because Trump would not accept the advice of a military expert. And then he did exactly what you just criticized Obama for - he pulled troops out of a critical region before the enemy was completely defeated. What this means is that another president will probably have to send the troops back in wasting vastly more money than the so-called savings you mentioned. As for the wall it is useless without the very people you claimed it would replace. The wall, if constructed to Trump's original specifications was estimated to cost about $25 billion. If it was built (which it probably never will be), it would have to be maintained, probably at a cost of several hundred million a year given that it would have to be about 3000 km. long. Then it would have to be patrolled. After all, Mexicans have shown that they are quite adept at building tunnels and I suspect they could even build ladders. In addition, the wall would cut through areas of farmland near the border, actually placing some areas of the US on the Mexican side of the wall. Also it cannot be built through the parks that border the Rio Grande allowing them to be used as continued access points. And finally most illegal immigrants to the US do not come illegally across the border. A lot of them fly into the US and enter through airports while still more are brought in as temporary labourers who then decide to stay. Just for fun let's compare the cost of the with simply hiring more border guards. We'll use your figure of $50,000 a year for these guards. If 1000 more of them were hired it would cost $50 million a year. If 10,000 more of them were hired it would cost 500 million a year. Looks like they would be a bargain compared to the cost of the wall. BTW my news sources include the following - CBC News, CTV News, Global News, BBC News, and various online news sites. Note I do not use CNN as a news source or any other US network news sites. I await your reply - I am especially interested in your analysis of Trump's knowledge compare to that of General Mattis and your math on the wall.

I'm sorry, but you are confusing political knowledge with fandom. As a fan you tend to overlook or deliberately ignore Trump's continual failures and possible criminal actions. I suppose you firmly support his addlelbrained decision today to pull troops out of Syria, abandoning US allies in the process, or his foolish decision to deliberately shut down the US government. As the title of the thread states the Trump administration is slowly and painfully dying. Each day brings it one step closer to to complete irrelevance. His supporters are not going to get their wall - an idea that never made any sense in the first place and the promised jobs in the coal industry are simply not going to materialize. And now you have the last adult in the room resigning, leaving Trump's government pretty much filled with the swamp-life he selected for his cabinet and little else.

I celebrate Christmas as a festive event. I have absolutely no religious connections, but to me it is a fun time when friends and relatives get together. I always prepare the turkey - I've being doing that for almost fifty years while the wife contributes multiple side dishes and tons of tarts and cookies. So far as I can see the many cultural groups in Canada may not all celebrate the religious aspect of Christmas, but they seem to have no problem with the festive aspect of the occasion.