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No. I gave a link to Encyclopedia Britannica. This encyclopedia has been published since 1768. It is not gibberish but is probably a highly respected source of information. Anti-Semitism | History, Meaning, Facts, & Examples | Britannica The article says in part: "Anti-Semitism in modern Europe The end of the Middle Ages brought little change in Jews’ position in Europe, and the Catholic Reformation renewed anti-Jewish legislation and reinforced the system of ghettoized segregation in Roman Catholic countries. Jews remained subject to occasional massacres, such as those that occurred during wars between Eastern Orthodox Ukrainians and Roman Catholic Poles in the mid-17th century, which rivaled the worst massacres of Jews in the Middle Ages. Periodic persecutions of Jews in western Europe continued until the late 18th century, when the Enlightenment changed their position, at least in the West. It did not necessarily reduce anti-Semitism. Although the major Enlightenment figures championed the light of reason in debunking what they regarded as the superstitions of Christian belief, their thinking did not lead to any greater acceptance of Jews. Instead of holding Jews responsible for the Crucifixion, Enlightenment thinkers blamed them for the advent of Christianity and for the injustices and cruelty committed by followers of monotheistic religions. Some of the most prominent, including Denis Diderot and Voltaire, pilloried the Jews as a group alienated from society who practiced a primitive and superstitious religion. Until the French Revolution of 1789, the status of Jews in Europe remained tenuous. Treated as outsiders, they had few civil rights. They were taxed as a community, not as individuals. Exclusion from the larger society reinforced their religious identity and strengthened their communal institutions, which served judicial and quasi-governmental functions. In the French Revolution, with its promise of liberty, equality, and fraternity, the rights of citizenship were extended to Jews. Still, respect and rights were conditioned on the willingness of Jews to abandon their age-old customs and their communal identity. This was the meaning of the slogan “To the Jews as individuals everything, to the Jews as a people, nothing.” France was the vanguard of the movement that gave civic and legal equality to the Jews. Napoleon’s conquest of the German states led to emancipation in some of them, but after his defeat, Jews faced a series of legal setbacks. Full emancipation of Jews throughout Germany came only with the unification of Germany in 1871. Even in France itself, emancipation did not end anti-Semitism but merely transformed it. With the emergence of nationalism as the defining factor in European society in the 19th century, anti-Semitism acquired a racial rather than a religious character as ethnically homogeneous peoples decried the existence in their midst of “alien” Jewish elements. Pseudoscientific theories asserting that the Jews were inferior to the so-called Aryan “race” gave anti-Semitism new respectability and popular support, especially in countries where Jews could be made scapegoats for existing social or political grievances. In this new climate, anti-Semitism became a powerful political tool, as politicians were quick to discover. In the 1890s Karl Lueger won the mayoralty of Vienna—a city of diverse culture and many Jews—with his anti-Semitic campaigns. In both Germany and Austria in the late 19th century, anti-Semitism became an organized movement with its own political parties."

That is true. In addition, the U.N. recognized the State of Israel after it was established in 1948 even though there are countries which refuse to recognize its right to exist.

That may be true to some degree. But as the article in Britannica says, they have often been forced to live in ghettos in many countries and isolated from the rest of society. They have been heavily discriminated against in Europe through the centuries. So the gentiles certainly have a history of persecution and discrimination against the Jews. Associating with a Jew was probably heavily frowned on. Seems to me he overturned the tables of the money changers because they were set up in what was considered a place of worship, the temple. I don't think he was opposed to money changers outside of that location. I believe the accounts of what happened in the gospels as factual. No reason not to. There are four gospels each written by different authors which give accounts from different perspectives but all in general agreement. "The four canonical gospels share the same basic outline of the life of Jesus: he begins his public ministry in conjunction with that of John the Baptist, calls disciples, teaches and heals and confronts the Pharisees, dies on the cross and is raised from the dead." Gospel - Wikipedia Did you get a chance to read the history of antisemitism at the link I gave from Britannica?

That is what I said in a recent post and it is described in the link I gave on the history of antisemitism. Did you read the Britannica article on the history of antisemitism? I am not sure what you mean exactly in that sentence. The world is a complex place and the situation regarding Israel is unique in the sense all the countries around it are sworn enemies. Israel is surrounded by terrorists whose only purpose for being is to kill Israelis and destroy the nation of Israel. Israel is a special nation in that it is very tiny and the only real friend of the west in the middle east.

quote Nazi anti-Semitism and the Holocaust The storm of anti-Semitic violence loosed by Nazi Germany under the leadership of Adolf Hitler from 1933 to 1945 not only reached a terrifying intensity in Germany itself but also inspired anti-Jewish movements elsewhere. Anti-Semitism was promulgated in France by the Cagoulards (French: “Hooded Men”), in Hungary by the Arrow Cross, in England by the British Union of Fascists, and in the United States by the German-American Bund and the Silver Shirts. Nuremberg Race Laws chart A chart issued under the Nuremberg Laws (German: Nürnberger Gesetze) that was intended to teach the Nazi concept of “blood purity.” The discriminatory, anti-Semitic Nuremberg Laws—also known as the Nuremberg Race Laws—were announced in 1935 at Nürnberg (Nuremberg) in Germany during a Nazi Party rally. This chart identifies three “races,” one of which is “Jews,” and ostensibly explains how a person's ancestry can be used to categorize that person.(more) In Nazi Germany, anti-Semitism reached a racial dimension never before experienced. Christianity had sought the conversion of the Jews, and political leaders from Spain to England had sought their expulsion because Jews were practitioners of Judaism, but the Nazis—who regarded Jews not only as members of a subhuman race but as a dangerous cancer that would destroy the German people—sought the “final solution to the Jewish question,” the murder of all Jews— men, women, and children—and their eradication from the human race. In Nazi ideology that perceived Jewishness to be biological, the elimination of the Jews was essential to the purification and even the salvation of the German people. Jewish badge used in the Netherlands Jewish badge worn in the Netherlands during World War II. Beginning in April 1942, all people in the Netherlands identified as Jews were required, by law, to wear a badge like this one, which is a yellow Star of David outlined in black with the Dutch word Jood (“Jew”) at its centre. This badge was a visible designation of Jewish identity that expressed and encouraged the persecution and dehumanization of those who wore it. The Netherlands were occupied by Nazi Germany in May 1940.(more) unquote Anti-Semitism - Nazi, Holocaust, Persecution | Britannica

Did you know the whole world was settled by colonization? However, the re-establishment of the official State of Israel in 1948 is far more complicated than simply throwing the word "colonization" out there. Israel existed thousands of years ago and many things happened in that land since then. The Romans destroyed Jerusalem in 70 A.D. and since then the Jews have been scattered or dispersed to other countries around the world although some did remain in the region called Palestine and many moved back there in the 20th century. Antisemitism has a long history in the world. If you want to close your eyes to history and say it is not relevant, that is your choice. But then why claim aboriginals have certain valid claims to the land based on their history but not the Jews? That is hypocrisy and obvious antisemitism. You want to favour certain groups but not others, especially Jews. Why can't the Jews claim history on their side but the natives can?

Alright, sorry if I did not explain it properly. I also don't entirely blame you for not having all this information. It appears most people have no idea of the root causes and history of antisemitism. Most know very little about it. Please bear with me. I just found what appears to be a very excellent article describing the roots of antisemitism over the past 2,000 years. It seems to include a wealth of information on the subject. This may be the best article I have come across on the internet on it. I am not sure if I should post part of it on here or just give the link. I think it may be too long to post the whole article. Some people get upset if I post something that is too long. I will paste the first part of the article here, but please go to the link because the whole article gives extremely valuable information right up to the present on this subject. quote Anti-Semitism, (see Researcher’s Note) hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious or racial group. The term anti-Semitism was coined in 1879 by the German agitator Wilhelm Marr to designate the anti-Jewish campaigns underway in central Europe at that time. Nazi anti-Semitism, which culminated in the Holocaust, had a racist dimension in that it targeted Jews because of their supposed biological characteristics—even those who had themselves converted to other religions or whose parents were converts. This variety of anti-Jewish racism dates only to the emergence of so-called “scientific racism” in the 19th century and is different in nature from earlier anti-Jewish prejudices. The persistence of anti-Semitism into the 21st century and the marked rise in anti-Semitic incidents in the early decades of the century have prompted new consideration of how to define and combat the phenomenon, which has both incorporated old tropes and taken on new forms. The origins of Christian anti-Semitism Anti-Semitism has existed to some degree wherever Jews have settled outside Palestine. In the ancient Greco-Roman world, religious differences were the primary basis for anti-Semitism. In the Hellenistic Age, for instance, Jews’ social segregation and their refusal to acknowledge the gods worshipped by other peoples aroused resentment among some pagans, particularly in the 1st century BCE–1st century CE. Unlike polytheistic religions, which acknowledge multiple gods, Judaism is monotheistic—it recognizes only one God. However, pagans saw Jews’ principled refusal to worship emperors as gods as a sign of disloyalty. Although Jesus of Nazareth and his disciples were practicing Jews and Christianity is rooted in the Jewish teaching of monotheism, Judaism and Christianity became rivals soon after Jesus was crucified by Pontius Pilate, who executed him according to contemporary Roman practice. Religious rivalry initially was theological. It soon also became political. unquote Anti-Semitism | History, Meaning, Facts, & Examples | Britannica I hope this helps. I plan to examine this closely myself as it is full of valuable information. Also, I would add that much of the professing Christian church has been one of the main sources of antisemitism in the past 2,000 years. Antisemitism and any form of hate is entirely unbiblical and cannot be justified as it goes against the major command to love thy neighbour as thyself.

You dismiss the Bible but it actually tells the truth about mankind. Man is a fallen, corrupt being with an evil heart. Therefore nations must fight to survive or be taken over by criminals such as the large terrorist organizations in the middle east. Who do you think runs Iran? Nice democratic-minded human rights people or deadly dictators like the Ayatollahs? That is the way the world is. You don't think Israel has a right to defend itself. You prove you don't understand the world. You just wanting nice peaceful countries throughout the world won't make it happen. You live in alternate reality.

So you can't understand that the PLO political leadership in the West Bank have no control over terrorist organizations such as Hamas, Hezbollah or individual terrorists? That is what your picture is, the political leadership. They do not control the terrorist organizations. You need to increase your knowledge a bit.

Do you understand there can be no "two state solution" because terrorist organizations will never agree to Israel's right to existence and no organization can control them or stop them from their attacks? They are partly controlled by Iran and also operate from Lebanon via Hezbollah which controls the Lebanon government.

No they would not. The terrorists don't believe Israel has a right to exist... period. They consider all of Israel belongs to the Arabs (Muslims) and they will never settle for less.

Britain occupied north America above the U.S. on the continent and it eventually became Canada. Practically every country in the world occupied their territory at some point in history. Israel considers the West Bank as part of Israel. It is situated right in the heart of Israel, a kind of carve out. It is also a home for terrorists who want to eliminate Israel. The only solution is to occupy it with security forces that are strong enough to deal with them. Failure to do that just allows terrorist organizations to move in and build up. A vacuum creates hostile entities. That is what happened in Gaza. There are also lots of young Muslim Palestinians who seem to be ready to attack an Israeli with a knife even if it costs them their life. That is Islam. They believe they will go straight to heaven and have 70 virgins if they do stuff like that. So how do you deal with that in your own country? That may require extreme measures. I am not sure what the solution is to that kind of terrorist right in your own backyard. But something must be done to put an end to that situation whether it be deportation or what. I don't know of compulsory education is even possible, maybe not. They have been brainwashed from a very young age and are now just walking killers.

You still have not explained how you do that with people that don't recognize your right to exist.

You confused me by saying there are extremists in every religion. By extremists I mean terrorists that do harm to other people. I don't mean people that are enthusiastic about what they believe or try to convert other people. That is not what extremist means in this subject. Extremists also don't mean people in a cult or false beliefs systems. So when you say there are extremists in every religion, I don't know what you mean. There are millions of Christians in thousands of church denominations in the world. They don't go around blowing up other people or killing other people. You never hear of suicide bombers from Christian churches. That is just not done. So they are not extremists. So I would not say there are extremists in the Christian religion. There were in past centuries when the Roman Church ran the Inquisition and tortured and killed heretics. That was extremism. but that was centuries ago.

That is not my problem. I don't control the world or what some extremists believe. So-called Christian terrorists are a figment of your imagination. They don't exist. There are some extremist groups in the west which you mentioned like the Proud Boys and a few others, but they are not Christian groups. They are an extremely small percentage of the population. They like to stir the pot by protesting and demonstrating sometimes, but they don't go around doing suicide bombing and mass terrorist attacks. Extremist groups don't listen to Bible believers. I don't want anything to do with them. Thanks anyway.

So you are in denial. Look at a map of the middle east. Israel is a very tiny country and surround by many large countries that are full of Muslims. There are probably hundreds of millions of Muslims in the middle east. They all hate Israel and Jews. There is not much one can say about it. That is the situation. There is no possibility that they can be trusted to accept Israel's right to exist.

As I recall, I already gave you that information and posted links to articles. Nothing stopping you from doing a search either.

There are hundred of millions of nominal Christians in the world and only a small percentage of that would be actual Bible believers. But there are two billions Muslims in the world. How many of them believe what the Koran says about violence toward non-believers? White supremacist groups make up a very small number of people. How many I don't know but they are not part of the churches or denominations that I know of. On the other hand, when we see the thousands of people in Islamic countries on the television news demonstrating against Israel and the west, we know there is a large percentage of Muslims that may be extremists to one degree or another. You never answered the fact that there are Jihadist attacks almost every day or so somewhere in the world. The fact is some Islamic countries have the death sentence for blasphemy. That shows how extremist some of them really are. So what percentage of Muslims would support extremism or Jihad? That's the question. The news media just reported that one quarter of Canadians don't trust Muslims. Why would that be?

The fact is you deny or question what 99.9% of the civilized world believes or accepts as the facts. Out of the thousands of political leaders, scholars, history experts, is there even more than a few percent that would agree with you? I doubt it. The facts behind the 9-11 attack are overwhelming and unquestionable. The number of people who would question that would be extremely small. Again you are proving you have a kind of streak in you that just wants to question everything no matter how bizarre or outlandish your position is. Same with the Holocaust. Yet you seem to have a penchant for reading some conspiracy theory or denial website or writings somewhere that opposes what the world overwhelming accepts. If that gives you satisfaction, that is your choice. I am not buying it. It's not worth debating those things either. In most cases denialists or conspiracy theorists can't be convinced of anything even with all the facts staring them in the face.

Terror groups are not Christians. It is contrary to the Bible. You don't seem to know the difference or you deliberately lump all people who call themselves Christians into the same mold. Secondly, even the groups you mentioned don't come close to committing the number of terrorist attacks that jihadists commit almost every day of the year.

Nonsense. Christian extremists would be extremely rare or actually non-existent. You can't be a Bible believer and a terrorist. Those two things are completely incompatible. But you can be a Muslim and if you follow the Koran, you can be an extremist at the same time because that's what it teaches. Why do you think it is called the "religion of peace"? The number of terrorist attacks by jihadists around the world is very high. Why are you denial. I think I know the reason. Almost everything you post is simply to oppose our western Judeo-Christian civilization. Take a look at the religion of peace website if you don't believe me about the number of jihadist terrorist attacks in the world. Islam: The Politically Incorrect Truth (thereligionofpeace.com) The few terrorist attack by non-Muslims are not being done by Christians. Christians are not terrorists. Why are so many people in Hamas or Hezbollah or various other Islamic terrorist groups in the world? Where are all the Christian terrorist groups that you claim exist? Good grief.. I never thought I would see anyone that thinks like you on here.

You still don't seem to get it or are in denial. Jihadists attack people somewhere in the world almost every day or so. You could say only a percentage of Muslims are extremists. The is true, but how does a country like Canada, the UK, and European countries determine who is an extremist? Worse than that, how does a country tell who will become radicalized and become a threat such as we have seen in European countries regularly? I don't see how any immigration department can screen out potential extremists or people who will become extremists. You trying to say it is like any other religion is ludicrous.

Israel is a very tiny piece of land to begin with. The Arabs who are Muslims make up all the countries surrounding Israel and they cover a vast area. The other thing is many of the Palestinians and the Muslims in surrounding countries have no intention of recognizing Israel's right to exist and are willing to fight against Israel any way possible. So how would your proposal make any sense? How would you divide up an already very small country with people who are intent on eliminating you completely? Any reduction in the size of Israel would also present a serious security threat because they are already surrounded by many enemies who have huge populations. This means your comment about Israel and Palestinians sorting out their problems and agreeing to divide up the land is nonsensical. It is ignoring the reality of the situation. It is one of those feel-good meaningless statements.

No it doesn't. There was no such thing as "church" in ancient times of Israel and the time of Moses, which was long before the church age began. Israel was given special laws that they were to follow which do not apply to the church age which began 2,000 years ago. " A holy nation (23:1-25) Various laws prohibited foreigners, eunuchs and people born through immorality from joining fully in Israel’s public worship. This discouraged Israelites from copying heathen practices or marrying heathen people. At the same time it impressed upon them the holiness God required (23:1-8). Holiness also demanded high standards of cleanliness in the camp, particularly in matters concerning discharges from sexual organs and treatment of human excrement (9-14). Other features of life in surrounding nations that the Israelites were not to follow were the practice of sending back runaway slaves for the sake of gaining a reward, and religious-sexual fertility rights with temple prostitutes (15-18). God’s people were to be faithful to him by doing what they promised and by loving one another, such as in helping the needy with money and food (19-25; see notes on Exodus 22:21-31; Leviticus 25:35-46)." Deuteronomy 23:1 - Verse-by-Verse Bible Commentary - StudyLight.org

Wow! A genuine 9-11 denier. Heard from someone on here you are also a Holocaust denier. Is that true? I am not going to waste my time refuting such deniers because I know no matter what I post you will still deny it just as you do with everything else I post.