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Prior to Oct. 7th, there was a truce and Israel and Hamas were not at war. On Oct. 7th, Hamas attacked Israel butchering 1,200 people and taking over 200 hostages. Hamas started the war. Israel is defending itself which it has a right to do. What country are you operating from?

There are certain passage in the Bible that are applicable to all people as you said. But there are passages such as 1 Timothy ch2 which we were talking about, which are speaking specifically to Christians. Obviously that kind of message would not have any value to non-believers. Paul, in his letters to Timothy, was writing to churches, not society at large.

What do you mean? I just quoted it. What does this verse tell you? " 19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; " Ephesians 2:19, 20 KJV Says nothing about the church being built on Peter. It tells you what it is built on. How do you interpret it?

Dozens of countries have designated Hamas as a terrorist organization. They deliberately murdered civilian men, women, children and babies on Oct. 7th. You do not appear to be a Canadian but a dupe working on behalf of a Communist or middle eastern country.

" 19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; " Ephesians 2:19, 20 KJV Jesus Christ is the foundation of the church, not a sinful man like Peter.

The non-biblical source just explains and gives you the Bible verses. When you made the claim "one church established by Jesus on the rock of Peter" were you quoting the Bible? No, that was just your own claim, a non-Biblical source. So you are ok with making non-Biblical statements but when I quote one which actually gives the Biblical verses supporting it, you dismiss it. Read Matthew 16:18. "18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. " The Greek word in the original manuscripts for Peter was "petros" which is a small rock. So it is saying That thou art Peter (petros, a small rock) and upon this rock (Petra, a larger rock), I will build my church... Jesus was not referring to Peter as the rock on which the church was to be built. This is proven by many other passages. Peter denied Jesus and Jesus rebuked him for it. Certainly nobody that Jesus would build the church on. Peter was an apostle to the Jews; Paul was an apostle to the Gentiles. " 42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?" Matthew 21:42 KJV

The Biblical evidence is strongly against that interpretation. " On This Rock When Jesus says “on this rock I will build,” he uses a slightly different word: “You are petros, and on this petra I will build . . .” This creates space between Peter and the church’s rock. Jesus does not say “On you I will build my church” but “on this rock.” “This rock” is distinct from Peter, although connected to him. We soon discover the difference between the man and the rock. After Jesus grants Peter the keys to the kingdom (see below), Jesus explains how he must die in Jerusalem (Matt. 16:21). Peter rebukes Jesus, whom he has just called the Son of God, saying, “This shall never happen to you” (Matt. 16:22). In response Jesus chastises Peter: “Get behind me, Satan! You are a hindrance to me” (Matt. 16:23). “Hindrance” translates skandalon, a cause of offense, a temptation, a trap. Notice the change. At first, Peter is the church’s rock. Now he is tempter, a foe. So Peter’s status depends on what he says. When Peter forbids the cross, he is a stumbling stone. When he proclaims Jesus as the Christ, he is a rock. Thus Peter is not the foundation of the church. Jesus in Matthew 21:42 will point to himself as the cornerstone, citing Isaiah 28:16 and Psalm 118:22. In 1 Corinthians 3:11, Paul identifies Jesus as the church’s sole foundation. Later, Paul writes that God built his “household . . . on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone” (Eph. 2:19–20). Finally, Revelation 21:14 pictures the new Jerusalem with “twelve foundations” not one, and they are the “twelve apostles of the Lamb.” Why Did Jesus Say, “On This Rock I Will Build My Church”? (Matthew 16) | Crossway Articles

I am not sure how a woman could become a wife and mother and also be a professional person such as a doctor or professional person. There is just not enough time in a day to do those things and still be a wife and mother looking after the family. This is a conundrum. Choosing a life path when a person is young, finishing school, would be very challenging in today's world, particularly for a Christian girl.

I also may not have been correct in saying it only applies to churches if that means within the confines of a church building. That would not be correct. I examined the verses and it does not restrict it to a particular setting or location. Therefore I would conclude it is guidance for all of life. It says a woman is not to usurp authority or teach over a man. This definitely rules out women ministers in the church. It doesn't say in what setting or where this applies so it applies in every sphere, including the church. Would you agree the correct interpretation is it is general and not specific to any particular setting? This is teaching directed to Christian men and women in this chapter. This is direction for Christians. It is not talking about non-believers or non-Christians in society at large. This is not politics. Becoming a Christian and following Christ means a total change of life and attitude compared with the way this world thinks and operates. Matthew Henry, one of the great Bible commentators says a lot about the passage: 1 Timothy 2 Commentary - Matthew Henry Commentary on the Whole Bible (Complete) (biblestudytools.com) The first part of this chapter is directed to men. Men are to be men of prayer. I realize this whole chapter would present some difficulty for today's church society and many churches probably don't follow this very closely. This is not politics we are talking about. You cannot try to fit this in with political ideology of how men and women should live in the world. This is the ideal of how men and women are to live as believers in Christ. Since you raised this question by asking should I listen to godly women preach, this has drawn my attention to 1 Timothy ch2 and the important teaching in it. You have caused me to give it serious thought. It points out very important principles that Christians ought to pay more heed to in today's world. Food for thought. I know many Christians would have a lot of difficulty with this subject.

You are one sick guy. You should be investigated and banned from the internet. Hamas are murderous and barbaric animals that need to be eliminated completely.

We are talking about ministers in churches or theological teachers, not universities or doctors. Wash your mouth out with strong soap.

The way I understand it is women can teach other women or girls, but it says a woman is not to teach or usurp authority over a man.

I don't think you understand the concept of a church. There is only one true church. It is a church made up of all true believers from whatever denomination they are in. The denomination or building is only the place they meet together physically. But spiritually they are all part of the body of Christ. That's what the church is. I think you are stuck in the concept that the true church is the Roman Catholic church. There is nothing in the Bible about the RCC. There are independent churches, denominational churches, but that is different than the body of Christ. Just belonging to an earthly institution does not necessarily mean one is part of the true church or body of Christ. That is a spiritual unity.

No. "9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; {broided: or, plaited} 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. " 1 Timothy 2:9-15 KJV

The reason there are 20 or 30,000 denominations is not because people listened to godly men preach. The reason is because over time, people had slightly different interpretations on various teachings or practices. But many if not most believe the fundamental doctrines. Many if not most believe in the deity of Jesus Christ and believe that he is the Son of God who came to earth to suffer and die for the sins of mankind. That he was raised from the dead. There is nothing in the Bible that says every believer must belong to one earthly organization ruled by one denomination. The true church is composed of all true believers in Christ who were born again by faith in Jesus Christ and believe he died for them, atoned for their sins, and was raised from the dead. Being in a different denomination does not form an impediment to being born again and being part of the true church which is made up of all true believers.

There is nothing wrong with trustworthy Biblical teachers and articles as long as they are supported by the Bible. You say you don't care what they think, but where do your beliefs come from? Are you saying you never listened to men preaching or read anything other than the Bible? It doesn't mean you can't read anything else or listen to preachers but what they say should line up with the Bible in a clear way. Listening to godly men preach is often how we first learn about certain Biblical matters. What would be the point of going to church if we shouldn't listen to anyone preach? The Lord saved me 43 years ago by my listening to the gospel being preached on a radio ministry program. He quoted the Bible and I verified it by reading it myself.

It is an article discussing apparent contradictions in the Bible. There is nothing against reading or quoting other articles about the Bible. Apparently you misunderstand sola Scriptura. " The phrase sola scriptura is from the Latin: sola having the idea of “alone,” “ground,” “base,” and the word scriptura meaning “writings”—referring to the Scriptures. Sola scriptura means that Scripture alone is authoritative for the faith and practice of the Christian. The Bible is complete, authoritative, and true. “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness” (2 Timothy 3:16)." What is sola scriptura? | GotQuestions.org The principle sola scriptura does not mean you cannot read and quote articles related to the subject at hand. But if you are discussing faith and practice for the Christian, the Holy Scripture is the authoritative source. The Bible does not say we cannot read, quote, and consider what others say about certain theological questions. But they are not the final authority.

This is all the fault of the voters of Toronto who voted for a strong Socialist to be Mayor. Now they will pay.

Gaza is loaded with Hamas and other group's terrorists. The IDF just got another group in northern Gaza the past 24 hours. Seems to be no end of finding them.

So you admitting the people and taxpayers of Canada really have no say in all these things. The carbon tax scam is built on an unproven claim that we are causing climate change. It is highly unlikely. We in B.C. have been charged carbon tax since 2008 and it has done absolutely nothing to slow climate change and it never will. There are massive resources of fossil fuels in the earth that will last for the foreseeable future. There are gas fields under the Artic that I don't think have been touched. It is nonsensical to say we have to preserve fossil fuels for people centuries in the future. It is unlikely we will even be here. I believe along will countless other people that Jesus Christ will be returning in the near future. Man may have a nuclear war not too far in future also and wipe out half the population or more on the earth, but I sure hope not. Unfortunately Russia, N. Korea and possibly some others are threatening now. Iran is a big threat. So it is pointless to worry about the world's energy centuries from now. Mankind may not even be here as we are now. You said something about other religions being an acceptable thing. I lost the exact wording. I assume you have not read the New Testament. There is only one true God and one correct truth. They can't all be true. If you believe that, you don't know the truth. You need to find out.

A church exists to hear the preaching of the Bible, a place where believers meet to fellowship together and encourage each other, and spread the message of the gospel.

Don't know but they seem bent on killing innocent Israeli civilians, children, babies in the kibutz's. Doesn't appear the population in general is interested in living in peace with Israel. It appears they just want to eliminate Israel entirely. Apparently the present war will not eliminate Hamas or other terrorist organizations.

Synonyms are used in countless places in written material. The words "powers that be" makes sense because authorities are far more the just the police. You appear to be splitting hairs and just trying to be contrary. I don't have time for that nonsense.

No. Next silly question.

quote 1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. 2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: 4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. 5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. 6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God’s ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. unquote Romans 13:1-6 KJV Don't need the word police. Powers that be is the same thing.