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"But while the Catholic Church’s top leadership shied away from publicly condemning the atrocities in Germany, the documents also provide information on the Catholics who hid thousands of Jews across Europe. Over 6,000 Jews were hidden in Rome and on Vatican property. There are hundreds of thousands of letters to the Pope from Jewish families begging for help. “The Vatican dealt mainly with distribution of economic relief and by helping [mostly baptized Jews] emigrate to North or South America,” according to Giovanni Coco, Staff Archivist in the Vatican Apostolic Archives. In some ways, researchers have found more contradictions than clear answers. At the same time Catholic rescuers were helping Jews, some of those same people were also helping Nazis. The Catholic Church worked to win clemency for convicted Nazi war criminals after the war. “The justification given for aid to Nazi war criminals was Christian love and mercy,” says Brown-Fleming, whose research focuses on this effort. “I’m finding that the Holy See wanted to show gratitude for the protection of the city of Rome during the occupation of Rome under the Nazis in 1943. Some German generals later convicted in the Nuremberg Trials had helped to defend property and valuable art and tried to avoid damaging Vatican property and cultural treasures in Rome.” Documents Reveal Catholic Church's Actions in the Holocaust | TIME

I thought most people believe climate changes. The question is not whether it changes or not. The issue is what is causing the change. Climate has always changed. It changed long before the industrial age. But there is no proof man is the cause.

The 0.04% is the total amount of CO2 in the atmosphere counting all other gases. Out of that 0.04% man contributes 3% and nature contributes 97%. That means the CO2 man contributes is 0.0012% of all the gases in the atmosphere. Out of that miniscule amount, how much does Canada contribute? A miniscule amount. Only suckers believe man is causing global warming and only suckers believe man can control the climate.

You seem to be trying to shift the blame for anti-Semitism away from the Catholic church even though they are by far the largest church in many European countries and especially for most of the past 2,000 years. "David Kertzer’s 2022 book The Pope at War explores this policy of neutrality and impartiality and the consequence of Pope Pius XII’s public silence on the mass killings of Jews. Kertzer’s review of newly unsealed files revealed that Pope Pius XII worked hard not to offend Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini and feared that publicly opposing Hitler would turn off German Catholics. Kertzer told the New York Times that he was “flabbergasted” to discover a German Nazi prince who acted as a go-between with Hitler and the Pope and that a top Vatican advisor wrote a letter to the Pope urging him not to protest an order to roundup Italy’s Jews and send them to concentration camps." Documents Reveal Catholic Church's Actions in the Holocaust | TIME

Luther was not alone. Basically most of Europe has been anti-Semitic down through the centuries. Some countries confined Jews to ghettos and did not allow them citizenship. They were not treated humanely or like other citizens. The documents uncovered about how the church acted during WW2 and the holocaust reveal: " The documents reveal a complicated mix of actions and views among European Catholics and church leadership; there was both silence and aid, support for Jews and their Nazi tormenters, antisemitism and empathy." There you have the unvarnished truth about many European Catholics and church leadership.

I don't swallow that. They were the power in the western world through the centuries. We still don't know exactly what went on in the Vatican during WW2. Is it a surprise that the church took a position of neutrality and impartiality as six million Jews and others were being killed? Sort of like the present as Trudeau is trying to take a position of neutrality with the war in the middle east. quote As part of the effort to survey the approximately 16 million never-before-seen files, unveiled in March 2020, researchers hope to find out more about what happened inside concentration camps and how the Holocaust was carried out, sifting through cables to find out what the church knew and when. Scholars have long known what decisions the church made, including taking a position of neutrality and impartiality as 6 million Jews and millions of others were killed, but hope recently unsealed archives will show why those decisions were made. The documents reveal a complicated mix of actions and views among European Catholics and church leadership; there was both silence and aid, support for Jews and their Nazi tormenters, antisemitism and empathy. unquote Documents Reveal Catholic Church's Actions in the Holocaust | TIME

Of course it means nothing to an atheist. But it is still a Biblical fact. People who are anti-God and anti-Bible and anti-Semites will face God on judgement day. Can't say they haven't been warned here anyway.

Yes, I agree that Luther was an anti-Semite, but that doesn't change the fact he was correct in what he believed and stood for in the Reformation. Not sure what you mean "the Catholic Church can hardly be blamed". The Catholic church was the power that existed for over a thousand years behind the anti-Semitism. The anti-Semites throughout Europe were Roman Catholic people down through history. Luther and the anti-Semites were just the way the world was for the past 2,000 years. Nothing particularly unusual about Luther being that way. That was the way practically everyone was.

Israel existed there several thousand year ago. God gave them the land in perpetuity whether you believe it or not. Our society is built on Judeo-Christian principles whether you acknowledge it or not. Even respect for human rights of individuals only exists in western societies in general. Nobody said the Bible has to be mentioned because most people today don't believe in it. But the system they enjoy is because of certain principles that came from the Bible in the past 2,000 years. Respect for rights is a principle that comes from the Bible because the Bible teaches love thy neighbour and respect human life. Those principles are built into our laws, even though western countries are abandoning some principles now with abortion, MAID, and same-sex marriage. That's part of the new sexual revolution and liberalism/progressivism. Liberals are exploiting the heathen nature of Canada for power.

You don't appear to know anything about history. Western society was ruled by the Catholic church for the past 1,700 years and while they were wrong about many things and the power behind the anti-Semitism, many laws grew out of Judeo-Christian culture and beliefs. Those beliefs originated from the the Bible such as the ten commandments. So-called International Law is a relatively recent thing from the 20th century after WW2. Nations are still sovereign and make the final decision as to what they need to do to protect their security and existence. No country has to bow to some international group if it threatens their very existence.

For at least a thousand years before the Reformation, the Catholic Church ruled the western world with an iron fist. It was basically the only church around. All others were outlawed. There was no such thing as denominations until after the Reformation and even then they only came into existence in a few countries in northern Europe and the UK in the last few centuries. I don't know if you are even aware, the priests controlled everyone's life in communities. They knew everything that was going on and everyone was expected to be obedient to the Church. Perhaps you are not aware of that. There were no such things as other denominations because it was illegal in most countries until the Reformation. Then things started to change in some countries. But only gradually. There was a hundred years war in Europe that wiped out a large part of the population of Europe following the beginning of the Reformation in the 1500s. Prior to the Reformation, there were a few small and isolated groups that challenged the authority of Rome, but they were exterminated by the Catholic Church when they found them. Rome ran the Holy Roman Inquisition through the late middle ages whereby anyone accused of heresy would be taken before a tribunal and punished, many with imprisonment or death. That lasted for about 400 years. If you want to know something about it, you can obtain books on the history of the Inquisition on Amazon. Some can be downloaded to read on Kindle or a computer. One significant book that will tell you about the past two thousand years of anti-Semitism is "God's First Love - Christians and Jews over two thousand years" by Friedrich Heer, an Austrian Roman Catholic himself. He raises the question of the positive guilt of Christianity in fostering anti-Semitism throughout its history. He shows how anti-Semitism was based on theology, but it was obviously a false interpretation of Biblical Christianity. It was a theology that included hate of the Jews. The Nazis carried that to the ultimate with the Holocaust. Even in Russia there were the pogroms against the Jews and they had the Russian Orthodox Church. So there were similarities in the anti-Semitism between Europe and Russia.

You are obviously a die-hard anti-Semite. Anything you post is meaningless. Who cares what the anti-Semitic U.N. or any anti-Semitic country says? It is Israel's business and it is their territory. What they believe is necessary for their security is correct. We all know the surrounding countries are opposed to their existence. So whose business is it anyway to tell Israel what to do with their territory? The U.N. secretary general just made an announcement promoting carving up Israel. Just another pat on the back of terrorists and further promoting war in the middle east.

How American Icon Henry Ford Fostered Anti-Semitism | HISTORY "The man known for changing the auto industry also used his immense power and influence to quash unions, control immigrant workers and vilify Jewish people." This anti-Semitism has spread among many people throughout America right down to today. It exists in much of the world today. Anti-Semitism - Definition, Meaning & Reasons For (history.com)

Is that what the Devil told you or how did you come to that conclusion?

The antisemitism we witness on the forum is a small sample of what exists in Canada on a larger scale and throughout the world. It has been going on for roughly 1,600 years or more in much of the world. Let us not fool ourselves. Dividing Israel up into a so-called Palestinian state and a small Israel is a major form of antisemitism. Many countries, which we think of as civilized countries are advocating dividing Israel, including the U.S. and Canada. This is antisemitism whether we realize it or not. If you google history of antisemitism, you can find detailed history of it in the world. This website has a good history of it. quote Anti-Semitism, sometimes called history’s oldest hatred, is hostility or prejudice against Jewish people. The Nazi Holocaust is history’s most extreme example of anti-Semitism. Anti-Semitism did not begin with Adolf Hitler: Anti-Semitic attitudes date back to ancient times. In much of Europe throughout the Middle Ages, Jewish people were denied citizenship and forced to live in ghettos. Anti-Jewish riots called pogroms swept the Russian Empire during the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, and anti-Semitic incidents have increased in parts of Europe, the Middle East and North America in the last several years. .... Hostility against Jews may date back nearly as far as Jewish history. In the ancient empires of Babylonia, Greece, and Rome, Jews—who originated in the ancient kingdom of Judea—were often criticized and persecuted for their efforts to remain a separate cultural group rather than taking on the religious and social customs of their conquerors. With the rise of Christianity, anti-Semitism spread throughout much of Europe. Early Christians vilified Judaism in a bid to gain more converts. They accused Jews of outlandish acts such as “blood libel”—the kidnapping and murder of Christian children to use their blood to make Passover bread. unquote Anti-Semitism - Definition, Meaning & Reasons For (history.com) The established Church during most of the past 1,500 years, the Catholic church, has to shoulder the responsibility for the history of antisemitism as it was carried out by its members throughout the western world down through history. It appears to be a result of a disregard or rejection of what the Bible teaches. Many of our western leaders are part of that church, such as Trudeau and Biden. They are not knowledgeable about the Bible or the role their church played in it down through history. That is why they can so easily call for a divided Israel.

So Canada does not have the right its territory? Who invented the term "occupied territory"? The anti-Semites of course. The world is full of them. Antisemitism has been the norm in the world for nearly 2,000 years. Study some history on it. Resulted in the Holocaust. quote God also made an unconditional vow that Israel would have the Promised Land “for all time.” How long is “for all time”? In the book of Revelation, we see Israel as a central focus. In the end times, Israel faces many difficulties, yet that tribulation concludes with the Messiah reigning from His throne in Jerusalem, the capital of Israel. The book concludes with a new heaven, new earth, and new Jerusalem. The promise of Deuteronomy 4:40 is a far-seeing promise, extending to the end of this world’s existence and even into the time of the new earth. Many other passages of Scripture support the fact that Israel will possess the Promised Land forever. For example, God spoke to Isaac in Genesis 26:3, saying, “Stay in this land for a while, and I will be with you and will bless you. For to you and your descendants I will give all these lands and will confirm the oath I swore to your father Abraham.” The Lord also spoke to Jacob in Genesis 28:13–14 with similar words: “There above it stood the Lord, and he said: ‘I am the Lord, the God of your father Abraham and the God of Isaac. I will give you and your descendants the land on which you are lying. Your descendants will be like the dust of the earth, and you will spread out to the west and to the east, to the north and to the south. All peoples on earth will be blessed through you and your offspring.’” See also Psalm 132:14; Isaiah 14;1; and Zechariah 2:3–5, 10–13. unquote Did God give Israel the Promised Land for all time (Deuteronomy 4:40)? | GotQuestions.org Ever heard the term "promised land"? This is where it likely came from. If you don't believe in God and his written revelation, the Holy Bible, you have a serious problem. You need to repent and be converted to Jesus Christ because there is no salvation otherwise. Read the gospel of John and the rest of the King James Bible and study it. Fighting against God is a guaranteed losing proposition. Yes, that is because Canada is basically a heathen nation along with most other countries in the world. The majority of countries regularly vote against Israel in the U.N. The U.N. is an anti-Semitic organization. Canada is a failing state. It has a small population but a large land mass. Trudeau and other politicians have inflated their idea that Canada is some kind of great power in the world while they neglected and diminished Canada's military. Canada is far more insignificant a country in the world than Trudeau and liberals think. Canada does not occupy an important position on the world stage. Canada is divided internally and failing in many ways. It has a housing crisis, failing medical system, and half of the population think Socialism is the answer. The debt continues to grow under the NDP and Liberals. Canada is a haven for foreign agents. It is a disaster in the making.

I don't know what he believes about climate change. Politicians are in a different atmosphere than ordinary people. So I don't compose my comments based on what politicians say. I think most of them have swallowed the man-made climate change myth.

The conflict between Israel and their surrounding peoples goes back centuries, actually several thousand years. The general area is called Palestine. There is no state called Palestine. The term refers to the general area of where Israel is located. Those who want to eliminate Israel cling to the idea of a Palestinian state. What must be galling to Israel is the fact that other countries tell them to carve up their country and create a State of Palestine out of part of what is now Israel. I doubt Trudeau, Biden and others who claim a so-called two-state solution really understand the historical situation there. Israel is surrounded by tens of millions, perhaps hundreds of millions of people who mainly follow Islam and have no use for Israel. Many of the Palestinians do not respect Israel's right to exist. That thinking is drilled into them from their earliest age. It is tragic, but I don't see how carving up Israel will change their thinking. All it would do is threaten the security of Israel and its very existence. The terrorist organizations that exist are not going to suddenly disappear because a State of Palestine is created out of a large part of Israel. All it will do is embolden them to continue their terrorist acts to eliminate Israel. The notion of co-existence and peace is alien to the terrorist and extremist mind. It cannot be changed by trying to appease them. They would only see it as a partial victory over Israel. Israel is a sovereign nation the same as any other and has the right to determine how to defend itself and where its borders lie. It is not up to Trudeau to be poking his nose into the situation in the pompous way he is. He should respect Israel's right to exist and defend itself. But it seems he has for years acted as if he knows all and more than everyone else. This is one reason his popularity has plummeted to an all-time low and most people just wish he would go.

The big climate change alarmists control the narrative on mainstream media and now on social media to a large extent. They also are able to control what goes on search engines. A couple years ago I could find a number of websites through search engines that exposed or rebuffed the climate change hysteria. Now it appears they have been taken off search engines. I don't know if there is an honest search engine out there. They are controlled by the billionaires and politicians who often belong to the World Economic Forum (WEF) and other globalist organizations.

What is the will of the heavenly Father? " 30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? 31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Acts 16:30, 31 Then, once a person is saved, then they may do good works for Him, but they are not doing it to become a child of God. They already are a child of God. They are made a child of God by God's grace through faith. The Old Testament also condemns the thinking one can be justified by works. You need to find out what justification means. "26 Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen. " Deuteronomy 27:26 This means if you think you can be justified by good works or keeping the law, you are under a curse simply because nobody can keep the law totally. Nobody can be justified by good works or keeping the law because we are all sinners and have a sin nature. That is why we must be born again and be justified by faith alone. Justified in the sight of God is only by faith in Jesus Christ and his once for all sacrifice on the cross. See Hebrews and Romans.

Why do you ignore all the verses that say salvation is by faith alone. You cannot earn it. The Apostle Paul says anyone who adds works to earn salvation is under a curse. You better read your Bible. Are you adding works to earn salvation? That means you may be under a curse according to that verse. That is a very dangerous position to be in. "10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. 11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. " Galatians 3:10, 11 You realize that "justified by the law" means doing good works. Clearly Paul is condemning those that say one can be justified by doing good works. Justification is by faith alone. That's is exactly what Paul is saying here and in Romans and other Scriptures.

No, that is not the reason for removing websites from search engines. It is all political. No science involved.

You are correct. I made a mistake and missed something. I was reading something about the makeup of the atmosphere but missed some things. I will delete that. Good point. I noticed it is becoming harder as time goes on to find websites that expose the climate change scam. I think the search engines are deliberating blocking them and keeping only the climate change fraud and alarmism sites on the lists. This is how powerful interests such as globalists control the narrative. Facebook tries to control the narrative on this climate change subject too. Freedom of speech and thought is disappearing.

As I said, you may be a Commie agent.

Wikipedia explains the complexity of the cycles of CO2 in the atmosphere. Because of this complexity and the miniscule amount of CO2 in the atmosphere to begin with, at 0.04% of all gases in the atmosphere, I believe it is highly unlikely man is the cause of global warming. Out of that 0.04% of CO2 in the atmosphere, man only contributes about 3%. That is 3% of the total CO2. What is 3% of 0.04%? That is the amount of CO2 man contributes mainly with fossil fuel use to the total gases and water vapour in the atmosphere. What is often ignored is the water vapour in the atmosphere and it is also a greenhouse gas and helps heat the earth and atmosphere. So global warming is a part of the normal cycle of nature. Without global warming there would be no life on the planet. Carbon dioxide in Earth's atmosphere - Wikipedia The climate change fraud appears to have been started by the U.N. A body of the U.N. abbreviated IPCC is the one responsible for the climate change claims along with environmental groups which automatically blame mankind for everything they can think of. But for the U.N. it is an opportunity to increase their influence, power and control in the world. That would fit in with their globalist Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs).