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All this expertise and no one can discuss it.

It took you that long?

Your sources, Rue, you do the work and present your ideas.

They have done it in Korea, Indonesia, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Chile, Iran, Iraq, ...

America's pipe dream George Monbiot https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/23/afghanistan.terrorism11

And another link, supplying many reputable news sources describing more intimate contacts between the Taliban and the USA/CIA, ... .

What you are doing is called cherry picking, AG. In order to save expensive bandwidth, I will let you know that there were reports there, at the link, from CBC, Boston Globe, Associated Press, Robert Dreyfuss, Daily Telegraph, Chicago Tribune, all describing US and CIA intimate contact with the Taliban over many long years. Why was the Taliban being wined and dined in the US, taken on tours of Mt Rushmore, ... ?

Let's first deal with the other issues you raised.

Here is some interesting reading from many reliable news sources, all collected together that will answer your questions, and raise more. http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&before_9/11=pipelinePolitics

Are you satisfied with this, happy about this, people writing about such evil and basically, glorifying it? "What to do ? Business as usual of course, because Canada and Canadian PMs are no strangers to their own war crimes."

You don't even understand. You can't grasp what many write. Or you are just playing. Neither is nice.

Why do you continue to focus so narrowly on subjects that can never be proven, yet you ignore the impossible? How did the alleged hijackers vaporize steel, which requires temperatures thousands of degrees above that reached by the only fuels the official US story says the alleged hijackers had?

He would have known going in. JT has to walk a fine line, as have all Canadian PMs. When one's biggest trading partner is the equivalent of other well known world leaders that have been convicted of war crimes, what is a guy to do?

I am free to pretend you say, but you want to believe that the alleged hijackers vaporized steel, 5,000+F, with jet fuel?

That is laughable, DoP. You raise another thoroughly discredited right wing meme but you refuse to look at any facts that illustrate clearly that this whole kefuffle has been another US false flag. Why would the US be negotiating with the Taliban over the pipeline and other humongous business prospects "up to August 2001"? But, confronted with Taliban's refusal to accept US conditions, "this rationale of energy security changed into a military one", the authors claim. "At one moment during the negotiations, the US representatives told the Taliban, 'either you accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we bury you under a carpet of bombs,'" Brisard said in an interview in Paris. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/oil.html

Always long on uninformed opinion, short on facts.

Yes, one sitting in the chair sat upon by so many infamous individuals, ... . Did Ivanka say, "eeeewwww, I feel like I have to go and have a shower"?

Yeah, right. And all the terribly misled western posters on all the forums across the western nations would be screaming, "I told you so, I told you so, they can't be trusted, watch out! they are there to kill infidels, Islam is a religion of violence, blah blah blah." Sixty five years ago, it was the same thing, just take out Muslims/Islam/... and stick in 'commies/communists/reds/... .

As you should well be, focusing on inane things instead of the myriad examples of hard science. Just to offer you a small, shriveled plum, yes, "remotely flown" has been around for ages!

As is the Catholic Church's involvement in the workings of the 3rd Reich and the Holocaust. And the USA's, and who knows who else's involvement in the workings of the 3rd Reich and the Holocaust.

Yes, like Canada [Somalia] and the USA [My LaiS massacres which can stand as reminders for the myriad other My Lai type massacres in myriad countries around the world]

That is a complete red herring, something you should be ashamed about raising considering all the other strong strong evidence that has been brought to your attention. Why haven't you discussed the impossibilities that have been raised. Neither you nor I know what happened there but you think it's effective to discuss an issue that can not be resolved without a new investigation.

Here is an example, one of millions that could be made in English. I think the US, indeed, all western nations and vast swaths of their citizens, are soon going to be shamed.

I think that if you approach this after reading the considerations that have been raised in, http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/topic/26612-why-all-the-worldwide-turmoil/ the first post, you might be inclined to see the things you have raised, the whole, really, single event since the attacks on NY City on 9-11 in a whole new light, or at least a different light. It points out that our myths are the myths.

These are not "ordinary people". They are severely brain washed people, also something that should never happen in the "free, open and honest" western nations, where discussion and debate is in their blood, their genetic makeup.