Boges

I'm not going to provide a link for this issue. I'm sure you all know what it's about. In Vancouver people are able to get clean IV needs to get their Heroine fix on so they can reduce the chance of spreading HIV/AIDS etc. Well news out this week, they also want to give people new crack pipes!!!! Just a thought. Since these people still have to perform some illicit act to obtain the drugs they're hooked on, can't they spare some of the money to purchase the application device themselves? I don't see how these programs do anything but enable drug addicts. It does zero to reduce their addiction. We're not talking about Weed or anything. These drugs are seriously addictive and horrible for your health. I doubt there is any safe level of heroine use. Why not give the people that come to these places free methadone or something. I think these programs just make the problem worse not better.

This thread is getting tiresome now. The NDP will be rather irrelevant for at least 4 years anyway. They were more powerful with 40 odd seats in a minority situation.

Lions

I have no idea. Please tell me. I'd assume it's the same. Please don't tell me you're denying that Quebec has received preferential from the Feds for quite some time now.

So who's Andrea Horvath then? Does she answer to Jack Layton or this new lady we're debating?

She has four years to do that I suppose. Assuming Jack doesn't come back and assuming she can run for the leadership. I know the Liberals have a rule that interim leaders can't run for leadership. Not sure if that's the same for the NDP. Again I've never said she's a separtist. All I'm saying is the optics are bad when you consider she was a member of the Bloc a few months before she became an NDPer before the election was called. I, like many people, question how solid the NDP support in Quebec is, when you consider many Bloc voters just switched their support mid-campaign.

OK I'll take your word for it. Still he was a founding member of the Reform Party and helped build the current CPC. It's not like he was a Liberal a few months before he ran for the CPC.

Also to make up $700,000 the rate would have to go up 30%. Cuts have to be made.

Stephen Harper used to be a Liberal? since when? The Liberal Jean Charest used to be a Federal PC Tory. But that party, at the time, was rather irrelevant.

Apparently she did it cuz a friend put her up to it.

I'm just saying the optics are bad with this selection. I don't think she'll be the leader in 4 years anyway though. If she is, don't you think the Bloc and Liberals wouldn't slam the NDP for her past?

I don't think they need to do that at all. They can just ignore the province's petty demands. Quebec gets so much more money from the Fed than any other province, the Fed needs to stop bribing Quebec! I actually hope the NDP does well. Because a strong NDP means a weak Liberal party and the NDP aren't taking that support away from the CPC. If anything there are many Liberals in Ontario that would much rather vote CPC than NDP. But it's not like the NDP found a ton of new Liberal or CPC voters in the past election. They got all their support from the Bloc!

I heard a good point about Toronto Property taxes. The percentage maybe less than in the burbs. BUT!!!! the value of the houses are double or triple that of the burbs. So saying that a hike to property taxes is the solutions is laughable.

Please provide support material to prove that the Conservatives are trying to bring back the Bloc. This story about the new leader has come to light because of the media. As a Conservative I see very little difference between the modern NDP in Quebec and the bloc. That's why in 2008 the Bloc did very well, and less than 3 years later they did horribly but the NDP did very well. It's the same voters. The CPC couldn't give a flying bleep about Quebec anymore. with Ontario and Western Canada in their pocket they don't have to pander to Quebec anymore like every other Federalist leader since Pearson has had to do.

Punkster, you're in this pointy-headed debate about the definition of what a Bloc supporter is. I never thought the people who voted for the Bloc all wanted their own country. That country would be untenable anyway. What I do see when I see Bloc support is an isolationist view of your province. That you're different and you only care about yourself. The rest of the country rejects that. So if the NDP looks for members that used to embrace that ideal, they'll have problems garnering support in West Canada and Ontario.

Well the Bloc isolates itself from the rest of Canada. It, regardless of it's separatist motives, sets Quebec a part from the rest of the country. When you have a part that only looks out for itself you get the back of the rest of the nation up. So if you're saying all these former separatists that suddenly have seen the light and found Jack Layton believe in a united Canada that remains to be seen. From what I can see all these Bloc members jumped ship and are being political opportunists. I guess we'll see how the PQ does in the next election to see exactly where the separatist motives of the province exactly are.

You know in Quebec that's all fine and dandy. Outside of Quebec however, the idea of the Bloc is quite frankly offensive. One of the positive things about the May 2nd election is the destruction of the Bloc. And now the NDQ's leader is a former member. You can say it doesn't matter, I'm telling you it does.

No one is saying she can't do what she did. It's just the optics are pretty horrible.

It's sorta like saying "I'm a Nazi, but that whole gassing of Jews thing, I'm against that".

The exact same reason Bob Rae would never have success in Ontario because he used to leader the provincial NDP.

Great she's a pragmatist that joins parties because they are more likely to be elected. Sounds more like a Liberal to me. Try convincing John Q Voter that her Bloc past means nothing regarding how she views the rest of the country.

Well let's put it this way. Who cares if this is how things are done in Quebec or if the NDP is "soft" on separatism. A woman like this could NEVER!!!! be the leader of the part this party going into an election. I could just imagine the attack ads associated with this lady. Also it sounds like she has just about as good a command of English as one Stephane Dion. So if Jack doesn't come back, the NDQ ERRRR NDP will have a very big battle on its hand trying to decide if they want to pander to it's large Quebec faction or try to expand beyond the 44 seats they have outside Lower Canada.

But if you don't allow people sitting in a booth all day to make 20-30,000 more than your average Canadian then the middle class will be eliminated. Don't you get it.

Yeha Wine sneaks up on you though. You can drink an entire bottle and not think about it until perhaps it's too late. It's not like a shot of some hard stuff.

Put the quality of the players aside, it's a debate that doesn't really need to be had. There are many parts of the Canook game I do not like. 3 downs is first and foremost, the rouge is second. But I just like the way the American game is played better. The playbook is far more varied than what you see in the CFL. BTW I should stop watching the Argos, they keep choking away leads.