WestCanMan

You and Betsy are on two different topics. She's talking about all new Canadians in general, you're talking specifically about immigration claimants. Refugees are a massive tax burden.

20K is still a lot of seniors. That comes with a hefty cost in medical benefits.

I don't think that taxme is being as accurate as you are when referring to "immigrants". People come as refugees, immigrants, and some come because they are family members of people who already immigrated. There are a lot of people who [gain citizenship through various channels] when they're already seniors.

It sounds like a lot, but IMO that's total fear-mongering. https://www.indexmundi.com/blog/index.php/2018/03/05/how-many-people-die-a-day-in-the-us/ In a normal 30-day month, 224,000 people die in the US. If the coronavirus pandemic lasts 2 months, 450,000 people would die in that time frame anyways. This pandemic was just getting started in January, so their 500K total is probably over a 3 or 4 month time frame. There would normally be 1,000,000 deaths in the US during the 4 months that the coronavirus pandemic would last, the coronavirus will probably bump that up by 1 or 2 hundred thousand, but the vast majority of those extra deaths will be people who weren't going to live 6 more months anyways. I get that no one wants to lose 6 months of their life, even if they're of the bed-ridden variety, but I promise you that the people in the government who are pretending to give a crap don't actually give a crap. They're looking at this as something that will clear out a lot of long-term care people. My honest opinion is still that this coronavirus is probably something that you want to get now if you're under 70 and you're not in the bottom 0.2% of your age demographic - healthwise. Much nastier versions of H1N1 have gone around before and this is just like a booster shot for people who are reasonable healthy. Even the Spanish Flu, which ravaged populations all across the earth, didn't have much effect in China and it's thought to be because their population was exposed to various strains of H1N1 prior.

BREAKING NEWS! Trudeau just announced a tax on toilet paper to stop the spread of coronavirus. WE'RE SAVED!!!!!!!

OMG if you think Trump is incapable then what do you think of Justin? Almost every single thing that he has done since he has been PM has hurt the country. On a good day for the country Trudeau is off on a lavish vacation on the taxpayer's dime. What was your response to this?

Major US airlines stopped direct flights from China as well, but it was the airlines and their unions that did it, not the government. Same as here. Cite! https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/01/business/american-delta-airlines-coronavirus/index.html

The virus is not contained here and it's not going to be. Full airplanes come here from China every day. What do you think we are doing to stop the virus here that they're not doing in the US?

It would almost be funny to see Bernie get elected just to see how fast the Dow could go down. I could easily see a drop of $8k on the first day. "Capitalism is dead".

Biden hasn't faced any adversity yet in this campaign cycle. He's going to fold like a cheap tent when he has to answer for all of Hunter's ill-gotten gains. Dems couldn't touch on the topic of Hunter because if they go after Joe on that topic, they're acknowledging Trump was right when he sought to get an investigation started. Trump can talk about Hunetr all day. Hunter Biden's millions in gifted job appointments/business deals will sink Joe's battleship, if he even makes it to the fall. He's clearly losing his marbles.

I thought that Trump was going to go down in history as the world leader with the worst hair but the mad scientist over there kicked his ass. Gawd that's embarrassing.

It's not just a blind eye towards history. Bernie "bread lines are a good thing" Sanders still won't denounce Maduro lol. It scary that Canadians were dumb enough to re-elect Trudeau, it's scarier that so many Americans support Bernie Sanders.

Che Guevera is popular, American MSM painted Suleimani as a beloved hero, a Democrat frontrunner is known to have sided with Castro, Iran & the Soviets... The main thrust of progressivism seems to be "let's move forward with a blind eye towards history".

Do you think that if Hillary was President she could wave a magic wand and keep all of America safe from Coronavirus? Would the party of "OPEN BORDERS PLUS FREE MEDICAL FOR ANYONE WHO COMES INTO THE COUNTRY!!!!!!" be the ones that you would want to have in power during a global pandemic? Nope. The Dems are getting schooled right now on just how bad their idiotic policies are for Americans. If anything this is a really bad woodshed moment for them. -The fact that you think this is somehow implicating Trump at the moment just speaks to your own dishonesty. You even lie to yourself. That's weird. -The fact that you're wishing for a death toll that's high enough to influence an election is sickening. FYI you're not on the moral high ground here, at all. You couldn't be any lower than you are right at this point of your life.

Exactly. He gets to take on some adversity and wear an S on his chest for a while. Plus, the Dems don't have a whole lot of great ideas that aren't already being implemented so they won't have an "I told you so" moment in this crisis. If anything, the fact that the border is being controlled to a greater extent than the Dems would like is a bonus for Trump. If the Dems had their way then sick people from Mexico could wander across the border and jump into a hospital bed that Americans could otherwise be using.

Trump is seen as a protector of Americans, first and foremost. He won't underreact to the virus, and Americans won't think any less of him because of anything that happens with Covid. Contrast that with a guy like Trudeau who would leave the border open to terrorists just for a photo op.

The stats speak for themselves Dougie. You had nothing to add to my last post which had all the stats you need.

You've completely abandoned ship on the debate and gone 100% ad hominem Dougie. The facts are 3 posts above this one. We both know you're not going there so I guess there's nothing left to see here.

Call the waaaaahmbulance Dougie. 1) Young, healthy people died of the Spanish Flu and they don't die of covid. I said it, you denied it, then your own stats proved me to be correct. Next time you want to trot out some stats just take a closer look at them first and maybe you won't get hoisted on your own petard again. It's time to carry on from that point. 2) Your "14% of diabetics die" stat does not prove anything unless you have something that says that at least some of the people in that diabetic demographic who died are not also in the very elderly demographic. https://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/35/12/2650 So there are a lot of elderly people with diabetes, and they usually also suffer from cardiovascular disease as well. So they check THE TOP THREE boxes for increased risk of death by coronavirus. Also, I don't see 14% on this list, I see 9.2% and 7.3%.

It doesn't have to make any sense. Tell the same lie 1,000 times and it becomes the truth. "Trump colluded with Russia" has been pummelled into the hapless minds of CNN drones for 3 years and it's not going away any time soon.

Who did I throw under the bus? I said that covid isn't comparable to the Spanish flu and I proved that. HEALTHY PEOPLE AE NOT DROPPING LIKE FLIES FROM COVID 19. That's true. I don't know why you can't handle that.

The government did lie to the public about the spanish flu. No one else is contesting that fact but you. And I didn't fear monger at all about Trudeau, I just told the truth. If Trump unilaterally ordered the FBI to stand down in the Russian collusion investigation the leftists here would have a fit. If Trump gave $600M to "select Media outlets" and $700M to Fox News the leftists here would have a fit. If Trump decided that the GOP were going to police the internet the leftists here would have a fit. If Trump criminalized telling the truth about Christians the leftists here would have a fit.

Are 14% of the people who have diabetes over 60? 70? Honestly, over 70 with diabetes is pretty close to death.

Nope, that's just an estimate. But as with all my other bullshit stats, it's accurate within .02% 99% of the time.

You made anidiotic comp between trump and Biden. 20% of Biden's sentences end up being a gaffe, Trump makes one a week after saying 50,000 words. Not the same at all.