WestCanMan

You're coming around. 1) Yes, too little was done, but everything that was done, was done by the Republicans, against harsh criticism by the Dems - "Blocking covid is racist!!!" Also at that time, the Dems were telling people to do all kinds of things which, like I said, aided greatly in spreading the virus. 2) "Too Late" is correct. In Canada we did everything we could to get covid in here, and now that it is here, our economy and our way of life has been destroyed. We shut the door to the henhouse after the fox got in. Now we are doing things that destroy small businesses which aren't necessary. This is all factual: "There are 2.2M active covid cases in the US right now. Only 209 people died from it yesterday. That's one death for every 10,500 infected people, and that's just among people who are known to be infected. There are many more people who are infected but just didn't get included in the stats. The infected death rate is pretty low, don't you think? What's ridiculous about that?

See, here's where your failure to grasp this situation really shows through. 1) At the very beginning of this 'pandemic', there was reason to believe that it might be deadly. That's because only the Chinese gov't knew what was going on with covid, and they were supposedly disappearing people to cover it up (or maybe to play it up?). So, at the beginning, it was CRITICAL to take the right steps to slow/stop the spread by blocking travel and wearing masks, etc. 2) Now that we know that it's just a bad flu, drastic/draconian measures are no longer required, and suddenly the Libs/Dems are all over it. We're doing the things now that we should have done in late January when we found out about this. Do you at least understand that much, now that it has been explained to you? I'm not asking you to invent the wheel here, just nod your head when I ask you if you understand that it rolls.

So then your actual answer is: Libs/Dems are so incredibly stupid that their attempts to fight covid are identical to the list of things that you'd do to intentionally spread covid and to euthanize sick people & the elderly. You think I'm paranoid, I think you're naive. Agreed?

It is hilarious, because you obviously don't 'get' much. I'm done replying sap. I'm posting examples of "either dangerous stupidity which caused mass deaths or intentional euthanasia" and you're ignoring it and putting up clownish videos to make sandbox insults.

Don't think of Hitler when you put on a mask in costco. Think of why the Libs/Dems fought against a travel ban from China, why they encouraged large gatherings and subway ridership in mid-late February, why they discouraged masks, why they put infected people into care homes, why they encouraged 'protests' and then pretended that that protest groups and groups or rioters looting stores are the only ones that don't spread covid, etc. Tell me that makes even a little bit of sense to you sapper. Tell me whether you honestly believe those people were 'fighting' covid, or whether it seems like they were intentionally spreading it? A seasonal flu kills up to 60,000 Americans, covid is a bit more than twice that, but deaths attributed to covid are sketchy to say the least. When octogenarians with two or more co-morbidities die of 'covid', it's actually more like covid is 1/5th of the cause. There are 2.2M active covid cases in the US right now. Only 209 people died yesterday. That's one death for every 10,500 infected people, and that's just among people who are known to be infected. There are many more people who are sick but just didn't factor into the stats. Covid, as a health risk, is not as big of a deal as covid as a political risk. Socialism, fascism and communism are actually all really bad. No one leaves free countries to move to socialist, communist or fascist countries. The governments of free countries don't shoot people who try to defect. get it?

By the time covid is gone, the enduring legacy of it will be: 1) Massive carnage among small to medium businesses, while mega-corporations like Home Depot, FB and Amazon experience growth 2) Twice as many deaths as a regular flu season, but almost exclusively in the very elderly demographic. People of middle age or lower will have very few deaths, and there will be less than 1% of the deaths of a regular flu season among children. (Less people will die of covid in the US this year than die of medical mistakes every single year, and at the height of the covid 'pandemic' in BC, more people died of fentanyl than covid. Yet covid dominates 70% of our newscasts as if it's the biggest killer ever, and everywhere we go we are indoctrinated in the fear of covid) 3) The government has effectively used the MSM as a fear-mongering tool to exert a huge amount of control over us, possibly even forcing vaccinations on every single one of us, even though nothing that they have said and done during the Covid scare has made any sense. Remember that liberal politicians on both sides of the border did everything possible to kill people via covid at the outset - now they all act like they're the champions of the cause. They did things like oppose travel bans, encourage large gatherings in Feb and March, encourage rioting & looting (large groups of people in close proximity exerting themselves and looting buildings), told people NOT to wear masks, put infected people into care homes... (Honestly, lib sycos need to look over that list and try to find a single example of me not being 100% correct - and what I'm saying is = "Libs/Dems intentionally killed tens of thousands of people"). There's no room left for stupidity as an excuse, the overall pattern is too overwhelming. When you look at #s 1 & 3, you can see how covid has been a blessing to a small few elite companies, and how they could easily see the value of promoting C19 hysteria. FB and other social media, busier and more profitable than ever during covid, are all notorious for shutting down all talk of HCQ, and are pro-vaccination. Social media and the MSM are acting as the book-burners and brownshirts of the covid fascism. The government has even allied themselves with agents of social chaos/terrorism in Antifa and BLM. And at the end of the day, when you look at all the things that are wrong with fascism/communism/socialism, compare the actions of the liberal NA gov'ts with the rise of Hitler, Stalin, etc (dither about the differences between fascists and communists all you want, a lot of the evil things they did were achieved the same way) and you see a lot of similarities: The government is killing the entrepreneurial spirit of the country (more gently than true communists) and narrowing down the economy to fewer companies which all promote their screed, stripping away individual rights and freedoms, exercising extreme control over the main societal narratives through their modern-day brownshirts (FB, Antifa, BLM, state-controlled media, etc), pushing false narratives to divide the people, diminishing the power of legitimate policing, increased dependance on the gov't by citizens, etc. The attack on police, by malcontent losers and the liberal government, is outright disgusting. The complete frenzy that liberals go into when you say HCQ is very telling. They don't want a cheap, off-patent drug to protect us from the monster that is covid, which could eventually kill 0.05% of us if we're not careful. We will have our freedoms severely limited if we don't take their precious vaccine - no flights, can't visit or work in certain places, etc.

1) more awesomeness 2) 4 more years of Dem histrionics, hyperbole deceit, and stupidity.

How can you back every bit of Liberal/Dem idiocy to come down from CTV/CNN and then bemoan the lack of “frank talk”? Do you go to comedy clubs and complain that they joke around too much?

Yeah luckily the Libs were in power when C19 hit. Now even the dumbest Canadians know that leaving flights open from covid hotspots and telling us all not to wear masks right at the beginning of a new pandemic, just to prove we’re not racist, is colossally stupid. Wait, the dumbest Canadians still don’t know that yet. They think that was the right thing to do. Now covid is here and we’re all screwed. Only 99.98% of is will survive. Luckily this virus has a low kill rate or Trudeau would have wiped us all out.

Maybe the problem is that they did Google it, and they decided that's the kind of corporation that they want to do business with. It does look like something straight out of the Liberal playbook. Funny thing about socialists, they elect a guy like Trudeau because he talks a good game, and then when it's proven that he's less trustworthy than a fox in a henhouse, they still want to funnel all the money in the country through his sticky little fingers because they still like listening to him.

Honestly, Trudeau's whole shtick was "It's my divine duty to pontificate to you little Canadians and to denigrate the majority here because I'm so morally & ethically superior to you all. Keep electing me and I'll keep on making Canada better by my example, and by promoting the values of superior cultures from around the world." What will it take for his idiot, sycophant horde to realize that he's a bigot and that his style of theft fits the exact profile of 'systemic racism', - "peons pay into the system and my people, my cronies and my family take from them". How does he re-brand himself from "divine pontificator" to "pragmatic leader with major ethical shortcomings"?

If it was moonbat nonsense you’d be saying it.

Do you mean that you don't need an excuse to be out-of-town at the time of the election or you can just get a mail-in ballot even if you're still in town?

Here's what HCQ actually is: it's enough to guarantee that healthy don't have to worry about C19. People who have two or more co-morbidities and are on the verge of death anyways can't likely take HCQ, they can't likely take any new medications or get the regular flu either.

LMFAO. How are people going to be expected to survive until November if they don't leave their house at any point over the next 90 days? Is there really a significant number of voters that locked themselves down on Feb 1 and won't poke their heads out until mid-November? Gimme a break. You're not expressing a need for access to voting. You're showing a burning desire to help voter fraud determine the outcome of the 2020 election.

This is from your link: This is a completely out-of-context list of side effects. Eg, vision: The risk to a person's eyes starts to become a factor after 5 years of continuously taking 400 mg per day. You literally need to have taken in 1Kg of hcq lol. Short-term use of HCQ is no risk at all to people's eye. Physicians who prescribe HCQ for the short-term don't even bother to talk about the side effects. This is the only red-flag for HCQ imo, the fact that the world's health enemy calls it essential.

No one is peddling that. It's basic common sense. People try really hard and get creative to commit small-scale voter fraud. Mail-in voter fraud is not hard and it's not small-scale either. It can be done on a massive scale and it's not easy to trace.

I read enough of the list to know that my time was being wasted. If there were some serious issues on there I'd keep reading but you were busy comparing apples to orangutans. You're right, maybe Trudeau/Tam didn't know that they were actively spreading the virus. Maybe I just knew that knew that they were releasing the formula for spreading the virus, instead of fighting it, because I'm brilliant and I usually know more about the spread of viruses than Canada's top virologists and epidemiologists. Thanks for that ego-boost marcus, but I didn't really need it. If you put something like the We scandal into Harper's list, where Harper's mom got her hands on almost $500K via one intermediary [a dubious 'charity'], it would literally stick out like an RPG in a sour cream bagel. So would SNC Lavalin. So would Adm Norman. So would unleashing islamic-state-trained war criminals into our society. I'll admit the Aga Khan scandal wasn't that big of a deal, but the fact that he spent Christmas on the Aga Khan's private island instead of in Canada set off some alarm bells imo. He's supposed to be a catholic.

It's fraudulent to use mail-in voting on a mass scale. "Absentee ballot" and "I don't want to get off my ass" are two separate things. Trump is giving idiots who are too scared to vote a second option. He's just chucking crap at the dumbest 10% of the population.

The only HCQ propaganda was the war against the drug. Idiots were saying that, despite HCQ's 50+ years of trials and widespread usage, it had all of these crazy brand-new side effects. The same idiots were saying that a new vaccine would be 100% effective and with no side effects. That's serious idiot-level propaganda.

1) Delaying the election is better than have a fraudulent election because of extensive voting fraud due to mail-in ballots. Anyone who really cares about democracy would agree that allowing election fraud to decide the POTUS is something to be avoided. 2) It's alarming that voter fraud is so easy in the US.

There are studies showing that it is effective. The VA usage of the drug wasn't done along the lines of a study or a clinical trial. The tough thing with HCQ is that it has such a low mortality rate, and such a low rate of even being serious, that you could give HCQ to ten thousand people and it would look awesome, but all ten thousand of those people might not have been affected by covid anyways. If this was something like a staph infection it would be really easy to test because there's a timeline for it that is fairly constant, but HCQ infection ranges from 'can't even get infected by it' to 'infected but asymptomatic' to 'mild symptoms' to 'normal flu symptoms' to 'bad flu symptoms' to 'severe symptoms' (a handful of people in ten thousand), to 'fatal to 8% of people with two or more co-morbities', to 'fatal to one in a million healthy people'. HCQ has proven to help people in the at-risk category, and that's all that really counts.

I didn't read the whole list but all of those things are several orders of magnitude below Trudeau's laundry list of actual scandals. Things Trudeau did that weren't even considered 'scandals' because no laws were actually broken are: ceasing the fight against isis, denying that islamic state was committing genocide, allowing terrorists to come back to Canada and re-branding them as 'fighters', intentionally spreading covid in our country (let's face it, anyone knows better than to leave the flights open from a pandemic zone - even the gov't of China restricted travel from Wuhan to the rest of their country), telling Canadians that our budget would eventually balance but racking up debts of $10B or more every year, giving away billions while telling our vets to kiss his ass, constantly denigrating Canadians and creating culture where it's ok to discriminate against police, 'white folk' and Jews, covering up for muslim terrorists attacks in Canada (the Danforth shooter was an 'incel' lol), attacking Canadian gun owners by using events which had nothing to do with our gun laws, etc.

How is Sacha's net worth so much lower? Trudeau didn't make $5M from snowboarding, a bit of teaching, and constantly going to university. In all his years as an MP and as PM he didn't make $5M.

It's pretty crazy that a tech firm has taken complete control of the dialogue around medicine, and that they allowed information that was known to be 100% false to be widely disseminated without recourse while they are actively stifling conversation about evolving C19 treatments. I could find thousands of tweets and re-tweets about HCQ that are patently false, even completely stupid and defamatory, which didn't result in full or partial bans, or public discipline. What I am talking about is not 'evolving information' either, it's very specific lies which fly in the face of a collection of scientifically-accepted facts and meticulously documented stats, proven over the course of the treatments of millions of patients and over 1 billion doses of the drug. IE, the side effects of HCQ are well-known after decades of large-scale, global usage, and there was an intense and inaccurate smear campaign about HCQ citing a wide array of completely falsified 'facts'. There were even accusations that the drug would make Trump and his cronies rich, despite the fact that it's off-patent, which means that anyone on the planet who can make HCQ can do so without paying royalties to it's original patent-holders.