WestCanMan

Remember how "RACIST!!!!" it was to consider the Wuhan lab as a possible source of the coronavirus outbreak? Why did our media pimp that awkwardly stupid narrative? Is it because Trudeau's ties to that lab, despite warnings from CSIS, are so obvious? How much of a role did Trudeau play in the origin of covid? Even if the coronavirus that leaked out of the Wuhan BSL4 lab wasn't one of the many viruses stolen by the Chinese from the Wpg lab, did Chinese virologists learn some tricks of the gain-of-function trade here in Wpg and then take that knowledge back to China? Why doesn't our media talk about the role that Trudeau's idiocy played in China's rising biological warfare threat?

When MSM says anything that's contrary to their political narrative I post it because leftists can't deny what they see on WashPo and NYT. If that study came from Fox leftists would dismiss it our of hand. It's a cherry-picked stat. Are there a bunch of people who were deemed "too unfit to risk vaccinating"? I dunno. Do people count as unvaccinated in those stats if they're vaccinated with 1 Pfizer and 1 Moderna? Or if they were vaccinated with the same meds twice, but at double the prescribed interval time? I know that Moderna would't want to count those. It sounds like I'm being paranoid, but we keep seeing "really convincing" stats from the gov't which show 2 categories: 1) "dbl-vaxxed" vs 2) "unknown vaxx status". WTF does "unknown vaxx status" even mean? IMO it's a total bullshit stat. So say the people who told us that 'the vaxxes would get us to herd immunity', then changed their tune to 'vaxxed ppl can carry C19 but they won't get sick', then 'they'll get sick but they won't die', then they finished at 'only the elderly ones die'. How many lies do they get to tell and still expect me to listen to their next great reason for vaxxing? Yes. I'm old enough that I could have gotten vaccinated fairly early on (53), but I didn't consider myself to be as 'at risk' as a lot of people, and I know that a lot of people were scared shitless so I decided to wait a bit. Then the bullshit stats started rolling in, and the pressure for everyone to "VAXX, VAXX, VAXX!!!!!" got idiotic. We've been told since the beginning that we don't get natural immunity from surviving covid, now that's known to be bullshit as well. Some say that people who had covid have several as much immunity as dbl-vaxxed. Leftists were also against therapeutics, Florida started gobbling them up, now suddenly Biden wants to take control of that supply chain, while again, pimping vaccines as the only real champion in the fight: https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/politics/2021/09/16/desantis-blasts-plan-cut-monoclonal-antibody-meds-florida/8368325002/ DeSantis was universally proclaimed to be an idiot for going that route, now they're saying that the Dems need to control access to it. I bet that means that no one who is wealthy enough to go to the Met Gala ever needs to worry. One more thing, people actually were dying from the vaccines but we're supposed to believe that's not the case. Seems like every case where people may have been killed by the vaccines is still "under investigation". Why are covid deaths instantly filed as C19 deaths but vaxx deaths never seem to get official status? There are cases where C19 deaths were overstated by the tens of thousands. Apparently that's no big deal, but we can't even say that 1 person was killed by the vaxx????? I don't know who to trust but I don't trust vaxx-advocates at all. I have an appointment to see my family Dr next week to talk about covid. If I can't get tested to see if I already had covid, and I have natural immunity, then I will get vaccinated once the Medicago vaxx gets final approval. It's a traditional vaccine tha gives immunity by limited exposure. It may seem like I'm ranting, please don't take it personally, But I know that I'm getting lied to constantly and I'm not happy about it. Our MSM is pure shit.

No back-pedalling necessary. If I said that the photo proves that they are associates that would have been incorrect. The guys in that photo were all smiles. Chummy. On friendly terms. Or at least they intentionally posed for a photo to give that impression. That's 100% truth and I don't care what you personally feel about that. If you want to make the case that Obama was just showing support for Farrakhan by being in that photo with him, that's your call. I'm just stating the facts. It satisfies me if you tell the truth. Trump was talking to two guys about an ambassador who was bad-mouthing him. I don't know how famous they were before that moment, because I had never heard of them (so this isn't that similar to the photo with Obama, where he certainly knew exactly who he was dealing with). It could have been their first meeting or their 101st. I don't see any evidence to indicate either way. Is it bad that Trump met with a couple of guys who made illegal campaign contributions? Not really.

There's an information minefield out there taxme. There are millions of people giving up on the MSM and turning to other sources for information, and rightfully so, but there are charlatans who are just as bad on the internet waiting to capitalize on your anger. Just because they're saying the exact opposite of what you see on CBC and CNN doesn't make them honest or credible. I don't believe that the vaxxes are there to sterilize people or kill them, and if you think about it, if the people who were making the vaxxes had a secret plot, they probably wouldn't be killing their own sheeple. They'd kill the non-believers.

The Conservatives don't run $100B dollar deficits, wear clown outfits, get sucked in by hojab hoaxes and call Canadians racist, etc. Jesus Christ man, the Libs and C's are as different as Charles Manson and Christina Applegate.

What you said was untrue, based on the source that you cited yourself. I'll let you decide whether you want to be called a liar or an idiot. The article says one thing, and you (theoretically) read the article and then misrepresented what it said. The proof of the fact that you are a liar is contained right in the source that you cited. That was the easiest fact-check I ever did. I didn't have to find other articles to prove you were lying, it was right in your own link. He didn't plot with them. He doesn't need a plot to fire anyone under his command. If he wants to do it, he just does it unilaterally. They said that she was bad-mouthing the POTUS, and that's an obvious disqualifier for an ambassador. Maybe he had his reasons to believe them. I'll say for the record that the photo is alarming and disgusting, but not that it's incontrovertible evidence of joint criminal activity. That's the difference between us. Obama showed genuine warmth in that photo, and as a high-level politician he surely knows what it means for him to do that, so it's not out of line to say that they are chummy (on friendly terms) but you're correct to say that being in one photo, or being on friendly terms, doesn't prove that they're actively involved in secret dealings. I'm on friendly terms with a lot of people who I'm not doing any sort of business with. Do you think that I'd be smiling in a photo with Justin Trudeau? The answer is no. Would Meryl Streep be smiling in a photo with Charles Manson if he's still alive? I'd think not. Do you think it was appropriate for Obama to smile in a photo with Farrakhan?

Farrakhan is buddy buddy with the Dems, that's not up for debate, and Obama was definitely acting like Farrakhan's buddy in that photo. Just because Obama has warm feelings towards Farrakhan still doesn't mean that Obama is an associate of Farrakhan's. IE it doesn't mean that Obama conspires against Jews with him. Obama and the Dems definitely should be "throwing Farrakhan under the bus" but the Dems are maggots, at best. An example of the difference between associate and buddy is like this: I've seen non-criminals say things like "Johnny is a Hell's Angel but he's a really nice guy" (which is completely idiotic). While those people may be 'across the fence buddies', it doesn't make them 'associates'. Associates are generally people who are in league in some way, shape or form. Your post is just an example of what a person might write if they speak English but not at a nuanced level. Take that to mean whatever you want.

Lying is when you said that the claims were bogus, which they weren't. It's when even the article that you're quoting says one thing but you say another. It's all there in black and white. You're a liar. I can't say "you're not a liar" and make it go away. You have to stop lying yourself if you want to shed that title. I'll say for certain that there are things about Trump that are unpresidential, for example his uncouth mouth, his affairs with porn stars and Playboy bunnies, and his hubris, but I don't lie bout those things. I think that Trump was still a good POTUS though, because his decisions as president and his leadership were extremely sound. This whole Russian asset story is just infantile bullshit and for whatever reason, you're a victim of it. You could say all of the exact opposite things about Biden. He's never been caught cheating on his wife as far as I know, and instead of bragging he pretends to come from a long line of coal miners. None of his decisions as president have been good and his leadership is the exact opposite of what you would hope for. He is an influence peddler of the slimiest order and he's a feckless dolt who got dummied by the Taliban. Correction: you lie and you make sandbox insults. That's all you do. Bottom line: Even the article that you cited yourself says that you're a liar, so you're a liar. Just because Trump talked to someone once or twice doesn't make them associates. If that was the case then he'd have 200,000 associates. Do you understand that much? Just remember that Obama had his picture taken with the biggest, most outspoken bigot in the country. Did I say that Farrakhan was an "Obama associate" or did I say that Obama definitely knew who Farrakhan was and how much of a loudmouth bigot he was and he should never even have given that guy the time of day? Trump was found to be innocent in the collusion investigation too. What's your point? Hillary's associates, business partners actually, were found to be guilty in Whitewater. Hunter is a criminal, he's a known crackhead. There are pictures of him with his pipe in his mouth. He's also admitted that he got his $50K/mo job as a direct result of his father's influence peddling. You tying me in with the lizard people conspiracy is just another example of you lying. You know that I've never made such a ludicrous claim or you'd cite it every day. And here's you, telling actual lies, and not understanding the difference between lies and the truth. That's not just a matter of you missing out on nuance either, it's a matter of you just not having a clue. You're not even making 'errors' over and over, you're willfully lying. At least your lies were on topic though. Now you're into an ad-hominem rant. Next time, tell the truth about whatever it is that you want to say, and then maybe you can stay on topic and prove a point instead of going Karen here.

You 'were lying' about your baseless and unproven conspiracy bullshit. Of course I called you out for lying. You lied 5 times, for certain. If you don't think those were lies then you'd protest, but like I said before, the proof was there in black and white. Now you're being a typical leftist and just making accusations to gloss over your lies. Go to hell dude, you were 100% busted. Lying means that you said something that was proven to be false. It has nothing to do with inconvenience. If I said that you lied, or anything else for that matter, you can book it. The person was a former Giuliani associate according to your own source. That means that you're lying when you call him a Trump associate. I understand that, as a leftist, you have to play really fast and loose with the truth just to stay in the conversation, but that conversation is only fit for other leftist muppets. It has no place in an adult forum. You can spout lies at leftistwingnuts.com all day and you'll just get kudos from all the other baristas there. I'd recommend that you do that if being called out for lying hurts your feelings. I didn't pivot to that, you were the one who brought up the topic when you lied and said that the information that was brought to the US was bogus. Even the article that you quoted said that it was damaging. Only a really stupid person would confuse the word 'damaging' with 'bogus'. Or a liar would swap them. Pick your poison, but you're one or the other. What that story means in your idiotic fantasy world and what it actually means in the real world are two completely separate things. If she was bad-mouthing the president then she obviously needed to be fired. Simple.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/blinken-americans-stranded-afghanistan-withdrawal At least they waited for the last SNC bribes to roll in before they buried that scandal. There are still 100 Americans in Afghanistan but it is out-of-mind now. Like a distant memory as far as the MSM is concerned. If Trump was still POTUS and there were 100 Americans still stranded there - (Sorry for using the "s" word Mrs Psaki!) - I mean, left to fend for themselves while calmly awaiting a chance to evade torture and a prolonged death, I bet that the media would remember for about 23.8 hours per day.

In books. At the beginning of covid it was racist to even consider that the virus came from the BSL4 lab right at ground zero, and that set the tone for the whole program. The NEJoM and Lancet got busted printing fake science, the WHO was able to quickly determine that it was safe for planeloads of people to leave from Wuhan to land all over the rest of the planet even though the Chinese gov't wasn't allowing them to move throughout their own country, HCQ suddenly started killing people and turning them blind after laying dormant for 60 years, the mainstream media replaced the FDA as the official source of whether or not a vaccine was safe, anecdotes replaced large sample sizes as the new 'data', and the science - which always seems to start out looking extremely counter-intuitive - miraculously changes 180 degrees if you wait long enough. Now ya know.

Jut watch 1 hour of the news taxme and you'll see why people are so indoctrinated. The news goes from scare tactics to fake science to anecdotes to fear mongering to anti-vax-monster bashing to covid heroes to fake corroboration and back to scare tactics. That's literally the whole news cycle.

Those people can't have an intelligent conversation about covid and it's not because they're 'dumb', but because they're victims of rampant fear-mongering by the media. The leftist media controls them completely. DON'T WEAR MASKS, IT WILL KILL YOU. THAT'S THE SCIENCE, IGNORE EVERYTHING ELSE! DON'T BLOCK TRAVEL FROM COVID HOTSPOST- IT GOES AGAINST THE SCIENCE! BLOCK TRAVEL FROM HERE, NOT THERE! NOW WEAR MASKS! THE TRAVEL BAN AGAINST CHINA DIDN'T WORK, IT JUST FORCED COVID TO GET HERE VIA EUROPE! HCQ IS SUDDENLY KILLING PEOPLE BUT THE VACCINES WILL BE PERFECTLY SAFE, THAT'S THE SCIENCE! EVERYONE IS DYING - THAT'S SCIENCE! THE VACCINES WILL GIVE US HERD IMMUNITY - WE NEED THEM, BUT WE WON"T FORCE PEOPLE TO GET THEM! OK, THEY DON'T STOP THE SPREAD, BUT INFECTED PEOPE WONT GET SICK - WE STILL NEED THEM! OK, INFECTED VAXZIS MIGHT GET SICK, BUT NOT HOSPITALIZED - WE STILL NEED THEM! OK, SOME VAXZIS DIE, BUT JUST THE OLD & SICK - WE STILL NEED THEM, AND WE MUST FORCE EVERYONE TO GET THEM! THE PROTESTORS AT THE HOSPITALS ARE ALL ANTI-VAXXERS WITH NO KNOWLEDGE! WE WILL NEVER SHOW YOU A HOSPITAL EMPLOYEE WHO DOESN'T WANT THE JAB!

The concept of pretending to be protesting for the other side isn't new. Saul Alinsky got his muppets to dress up like the KKK and cheer on Republicans for a photo op: https://culturalsurvivalskills.me/2010/10/26/alinsky-dress-up-as-members-of-the-ku-klux-klan/ The media will ignore the 'covid heroes' who fought C19 for a year, unvaxxed, who will now lose their jobs if they don't take a jab that they don't want to take. They lump them into the "anti-vaxx mouthbreathers" category. It would be massively damaging to CBC & CTV's cause to acknowledge that the people who see both sides of the story, right from inside the hospitals, aren't in lock step with the MSM, leftists politicians, and Big Pharma on the vaxx debate.

That's inaccurate. When's the last time that you saw a 13 yr old put on a helmet and then keel over, dead? When's the last time that a 13 yr old put on a seatbelt which caused serious heart problems or blood clots? Why is it that medical professionals can instantly proclaim that people died of covid, even if they were already walking on the edge of their grave, but when they die of the vaccines their deaths remain 'under investigation' for months? Why do we hear anecdotes about "a 59 yr-old with no pre-existing conditions who died of covid in England" (which is on a different continent fyi) but not a 13 yr old who died from the vaccine in Detroit, which literally starts exactly where Windsor, Ont ends? Why did all of the liberal politicians in North America do everything that they could to help covid get here, and then all of a sudden go nutso for lockdowns and make covid into a political issue? You can't find an example of a leftist that fought covid before March 16th, but they suddenly claimed it as 'their cause' soon after. Why is that? Why do you accept that? FYI Big Pharma was a trillion dollar/yr industry before covid even started. Ask yourself "Why did Biden and Harris, who were openly skeptical of vaxxes before the election, suddenly hop on board? Why did they go from no-mandates to mandates are the way to go? Why did the vaccine goalposts get moved back from 'herd immunity' to 'no one will get sick', to 'it will keep people out of hospitals' to 'it will stop people from dying' to 'only the elderly with pre-existing co-morbidities are dying'? And now Fauci just went back to 'if we get 97% of people vaxxed we can get herd immunity', how is that a thing? We all know that's just a sales pitch and a lie.

I already posted it. Even the nurses union is speaking out against the mandatory vaxxes, saying that it will take front line workers out of action. I really hope that the hospital workers stick to their guns and take their unpaid leave, but I'm going to go ahead and guess that they won't be able to get EI or CERB after they've been forced to leave their jobs.

I caught you lying 100%, at least 5 times, and you can't directly challenge the instances where I said that you're a liar because it's right there in black and white. You had your stupid little article and you tried to make it something more than what it was. Your latest thing is equally stupid. You're comparing "a recording appears to catch Trump saying...." to "Biden was caught on camera bragging about a quid pro quo, lying about knowing that his kid got a new $50K/month job, and then Biden and the Dems used the intel community like their little CNN whores to discredit actual verified intelligence about the Bidens' influence peddling" etc. Go tell your lies in a little idiotic liberal echo chamber, Beave. I'll just keep exposing your lies and stupidity here.

Who the fuck are you to say "who's wrong"? The protests are organized by health care workers. They are protesting against being forced to get vaxxed or losing their jobs. Leftist media here won't give them a voice though. This is a pro-choice protest - our Nazi gov't and their propagandists will not stand for it. It will be crushed, with force, if necessary.

Keep quoting sources that refuse to listen to the actual "health care heroes" lol. Al-Jazeera, Trudeau, and Citizen_2015: peas in a pod.

But, but, but, IT WAS A LEFTIST CAUSE back then. They were even within their rights to assault police if they wanted to. Now they're protesting against something that his holiness, the turd, is in favour of. They should be tested for covid and even if they're negative, they should have to go to covid concentration camps.

These people are protesting outside their place of work. Of course that's ok. Leftists just spent years trying to argue that it is ok for people to protest inside of their places of work, now you're trying to say that they have to go to other, random places to protest? That's just stupid.

CTV is a joke, but this article about the protests at the hospitals provides a perfect example of how they manipulate people's feelings to control how they feel about an issue. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/it-s-terrifying-police-on-hand-as-pandemic-protesters-picket-hospitals-1.5583017 CTV has no choice but cover the event, but they only give faces and backstories to people who are negatively impacted by it, because they want to use this story to bump up Trudeau's poll numbers. So..... some random dude gets portrayed as the face of victimhood here. Forget about the thousands of nurses, doctors and other hospital staff who were heroes just a month ago, but are now the face of tyrannical freedom-lovers because they're refusing the jab. Don't forget, these are the people who see C19 patients and vaxx-victims all the time. You gotta wonder why they feel this way when they're the ones that see the truth, day in and day out.

? Do you even know who the protestors are? Those rallies are organized by frontline workers & hospital staff who worked through the whole last year of covid and are now facing suspensions/layoffs if they don't get vaccinated: Leftards supported violent riots for half of 2014, all of 2015 and 2016, and half of 2020. Now you're acting like peaceful protests should be illegal. A basic concept of democracy is that you don't allow or disallow peaceful protests based on whether or not you support the cause.

When you have to tell stupid lies to make a point, that should be your clue that it's time to quit. Giuliani has lots of associates that aren't 'Trump associates'. That's life. When the article says "Giuliani associate" that's exactly what it means. Trudeau moved mountains to help out SNC. Does that mean that the guy who wrote the bribery cheques to Michel Fournier was a Trudeau associate, just because he worked at SNC? You're correct to say that he made illegal donations, but he gave Trump's campaign "damaging information" about Biden. What you need to understand is that the person who gave Giuliani the damaging info was an American, and that Giuliani had every right to listen to the info that an American citizen had about Biden's criminal dealings in Ukraine. So is Hillary. So is Hunter Biden. What's your point? He was an American citizen who was providing valuable intel about a serious scandal in Ukraine. That's all that matters with regards to Trump and the collusion farce. You added an adjective there which I never used, so one again you're just a liar. I never said 'distant' past. I said "former" associate, which was a direct quote from your own article. OMFG. PROGRESS!!!!!!! WAY TO GO, SON! ???... Biden's actions were patriotic? Hunter was hired when Zlochevsky was still the owner of Burisma, and Zlochevsky was still living in Ukraine. Hunter remained on the board for many months after Zlochevsky returned. Hunter only left the cash cow at Burisma when Joe went for the Presidency, because Joe was aware of the terrible optics of their Ukraine scandal. Your own article didn't say anything about nonsense beave. It referenced "damaging information". Not conspiracy theories. Not lies, like you have told so many times in your last two posts. Your article mentioned damaging information. How can information be damaging when it's false, or merely conspiratorial? Like everything else that I wrote on this forum, the allegations against Joe and Hunter are extremely serious, accurate, and based on verified facts. All of the Bidens' excuses, including those from "hundreds of intelligence officials", are known to be outright lies. ? You're the one who quoted the article, Beave. I just pointed out how many lies you told about it and how stupid it made you look.

1) It's a big deal that the C's are gaining in the Atlantic, because those seats are within reach 2) The Libs 'gaining in the praires' is like if I work out tonight: I will be gaining on Shaq in terms of creating muscle mass, but I won't be challenging him to an arm wrestle or a game of 1 on 1 any time soon.