WestCanMan

That's kind of a dagger in the heart of the anti-ivermectin movement. Do you have a cite?

And still, the vaccines have outright killed people and caused serious harm to others. How can you insinuate that ivermectin poses a greater health risk than the vaccines when ivermectin doesn't do those things when taken as it's administered by a physician.

I think it's weird that there's always such a desperate rush to "debunk" anything aside from vaccines, and it's telling that the people who are such avid "debunkers & truth seekers" are equally rabid about overstating the safety and efficacy of the vaxx.

They just gave an opinion without citing and sources, but I do agree that people shouldn't be self-dosing with ivermectin.

I like the fact that you're answering my post politely and with stats, but the top graph doesn't scream "ivermectin isn't working". It's the exact opposite.

You cited an article from May 19th, referring to something from the past. The allegations that we're referring to here are from this month.

Leftists have completely abandoned Biden now. No one wants to say "I think that Joe Biden is of sound mind" anymore because they know that it's obviously false. It's too soon after they supported him in the election though, so they have to wait another 6 months and then act like it's something new.

Herd immunity was pegged at 70-80% vaxxed, then we got to 80% and it's theoretically not nearly enough, so we have mandates and covid-divisiveness. Places with 90% still have covid outbreaks. This isn't a campaign to get people vaxxed, it's a campaign to get us vaccine-dependent and get Big Pharma rich. FYI it's possible to lie about something even though you don't have all the facts. It was a lie for the WHO to declaratively say that H2H transmission wasn't occurring at the point when they didn't know for certain that was the case. It certainly was a lie for the WHO to say that H2H transmission wasn't occurring when they knew for a fact that it was. It was a lie to say that HCQ kills people and makes them blind. The first study that came out in the NEJM and The Lancet that showed that HCQ didn't work had to be retracted because it was fake science. But they weren't censured at all. The MSM ignored it. It was a lie for the Dems and MSM to say that banning flights from China was racist. Trudeau banned flights from India to stop "THE DELTA VARIANT!" and no one ever called that racist. It was a lie to say that "the vaccines will be safe". No one could possibly have known that would be the case at the time it was being told to us. It was a lie to say that "the vaccines are safe" once it was determined that the vaccines were killing people. People still say that now, and it's 100% false. It was a lie to act like Trudeau was successfully fighting covid when he was doing everything 100% wrong and our covid numbers were abysmal for a country with such a low population and such low pop density. The MSM still completely ignores deaths caused by vaxxing, and that's a form of lying as well. The topic of dbl-vaxxed deaths is downplayed by about 99%, a form of twisting the covid narrative, aka lying. The Gov't of Ont posted a covid study that went from Dec 14th 2020 to Aug 8th 2021 and tried to act like it was somehow proof of something. There wasn't a singl dbl-vaxxed person in Canada until February, and even as late as mid-May the numbers were something like 300,000 dbl-vaxxed and 14,000,000 who weren't. That's just past the end of flu season. In July the number of dbl-vaxxed surpassed the single & unvaxxed, and the study ended weeks later. In all, they had 2 reasonable months to compare cases, but they were summer months, which are well outside of the flu season. And fwiw, covid's 2020 numbers followed the traditional flu season curve. Israel's dismal covid numbers were twisted by our MSM. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/israeli-doctors-find-severe-covid-19-breakthrough-cases-mostly-in-older-sicker-patients-1.5554818 They had no choice but to acknowledge that the Pfizer vax was failing over there, so they described covid cases in a way that they never had before - they said that it was almost exclusively affecting the very elderly with compromised immune systems. In all honesty, that's the way covid works among the unvaccinated as well, but CTV still doesn't tell us that 2/3 of covid deaths in Canada are among those 80+, who account for about 4% of the population (in other words, the other 96% of the population only has 33% of the deaths). CTV headlines the rare instances when "healthy" (usually obese, possibly smokers) people under 60 die of covid from as far away as England, but they completely ignore vax-induced deaths in children. Jacob Clynick was the 13 yr-old from Chicago who apparently died of the vaccination back in July but his death was never mentioned here. Almost 4 months later there has still never been an official cause of death given in his case, aside from the myocarditis/pericarditis that's a hallmark of vaxxing. Why the stark contrast in standards? Why don't they report on all of the athletes who were gravely affected by the vax? Why is none of the MSM's reporting factual/unbiased? Why is there a bias at all in their reporting? It's not weird that there's bias, it's just shocking how much bias there actually is. In BC and Ont, the two key battleground provinces in the last federal election, covid cases were underreported before the election. It was on the cover of the Vancouver Province newspaper, and just a week later Ont reported that they made the same 'mistake' in the month before the election. Somehow two provinces both got their covid numbers wrong for one month before the election, but in every other month in every single province in the country before and after the election the covid numbers were 'accurate'. That's weird, and by weird I mean 'politically motivated bullshit'. The CDC came out and disclosed the fact that on 94% of "covid" death certificates in the US, covid is only one of the causes of death listed. IE, only 6% of the people who "died of covid" died of covid alone. That means that when they showed the bloated total of 600,000 covid deaths, only about 36,000 people died of covid alone. MSM/Fauci: "Natural immunity doesn't work. There was a guy in China who got covid, recovered, and then got covid again and died from it. Only the vaccines will work." (obviously bullshit - once your body develops adaptive immunity to covid then you have the same kind of immunity that the mRNA vaccine tells your cells to produce, likely more immunity) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK279396/ Somehow they told us this one unverified anecdote from all the way over in China (aka the land of the trustworthy government) and used that to completely overrule everything that science ever taught us about viruses and immunity. To this day, natural immunity officially means nothing because of "The Anecdote That Rewrote Science!!" Why is it that the people in North American who have seen the most left-wing news coverage about covid are, by far, the most ignorant about covid-related matters? They think that the hospitalization rate is twenty times higher than it actually is overall, they have no clue how rare it is for young people to get ill from covid, or how similar the covid death toll is to that of the normal seasonal flu among young people. Spoiler alert: it's because left-wing news is a complete farce. My own doctor told me that dbl-vaxxed people don't die of covid. He looked me and my wife right in the eye and said that to us. That may be true enough for a leftist, because what they want to be true forms their baseline for 'truth', but I prefer the actual truth with all of its warts. I'll happily arrive at the reasonable conclusion when provided with some honest facts, but I don't like being lied into a corner. I'm not a fan of Machiavellian medicine, where they lie to you and apply undue pressure in order to get you to do what they want you to.

TBH, I don't really think that the vaccines work. If they did then there'd be herd immunity, the vaccinated people wouldn't be dying, and there'd be no need to vaccinate children. Literally the minute that we got to 75% vaccinated "Delta threw us a curve". Uhhhh, so there was never even 1 second when the vaccines gave us real protection from covid, but Fauci et al are still selling it like it's gold. So many covid lies since the beginning, I think I'm more at risk of dropping dead from just hearing the truth from the MSM for once than I am from covid.

A good solution would be if we considered every possible way to fight covid instead of putting all of our eggs in one basket with the vaccines. Politicians act like this is an all hands on deck situation yet they made covid into a single-source contract.

It's not that they're making so much money that inflation doesn't matter to them, it's the fact that their salaries are rising with inflation & they have indexed pensions so they don't care. They can keep spending taxpayer money like fools to keep getting re-elected by the idiots who don't understand how F'd we'll all be once this is a debt-ridden socialist shithole.

CNN host and guest dummied by a mom:

AG Garland asked if they'll be investigating Fauci for perjury: Garland says "We don't comment on investigations or non-investigations" lol. He's promptly reminded that he publicly announced the investigations into domestic terrorist moms at PTA meetings. Jim Jordan picks on Garland for being Biden's puppet:

Dolt'un Joe was at his usual unbestest at AC's Townhall the other day. He finished answering a question with "What am I doing here", he claimed that he might deploy the National Guard to somehow help with the supply chain crisis but the WH said that's not going to happen, and he clenched both fists and made the "constipated toddler face" for about twenty seconds while AC was asking him a question. It was painful to watch. If Trump did that the left would melt down. It's almost like they want Commyala in now, they're exposing him for what he is. Leftists - FYI: Although it says CNN in the bottom right corner, the jetpack isn't real, it was photoshopped, and Joe didn't shoot through the ceiling either, that was also photoshopped. This is just a joke about what people thought Joe was imagining while he was doing that weird thing with his face and hands.

We've officially crossed into the twilight zone now, because that looks more like a Babylon Bee meme than an actual news headline.

So, at best, all that you managed to do was show that covid can be as bad as the vaccine. Do you think that somehow supports a claim that vaccines should be mandated on everyone? FYI, evidence that the vaccines can reasonably be mandated for everyone looks like this: 1) "The vaccines are known to be 100% safe and offer a large benefit to society" would be a stand-alone reason which could unilaterally make the mandate legitimate, but the possibility of death or serious long-term injury from the vax absolutely rules this out. 2) "The fatalities and long-term harm that will certainly be caused to a very small number of individuals is vastly outweighed by the benefits of the vaccine to the general population" is a tough pill to swallow for the unlucky ones who die (as is the case with the vaccines that we still consider highly successful today.), but the vaccines DO NOT STOP THE SPREAD OF COVID and they don't provide full protection to anyone, so that is not the case at all either. The vax mandate effectively says this: "Everyone MUST take the vaccine, even when it confers no benefit on them personally & can potentially kill them or cause them great harm, because in theory the vaccine slightly reduces the spread of the disease." Honestly, I'd love to see you explain how what I wrote is inaccurate. Covid hasn't slowed down. Just remember - we're already over 80% vaxxed, that's more than "The Science Told Us" we theoretically needed in order to achieve herd immunity. It's not working at all. Vaxxed people still die and spread covid, "The Science" never told us that would be the case, and although Big Pharma quietly acknowledges it now, vaxx-Nazis ignore that when they try to inflict the mandate on others. A fellow "vax-hesitant terrorist" pointed out something to me yesterday that I hadn't thought of, if you can believe it.

No one knows that all of the files that they are looking for still exist from the video that I saw. Many files were moved, but no one knows how many were deleted. What actually happened is this: 1) the GOP subpoenaed "the SQL server and all of the 2020 election data" 2) relevant files, covered by the subpoena, were archived onto a different server and deleted from the SQL server 3) no one said that the files that were moved/deleted were made available to the auditors, and the auditor himself claimed that he did not get access to them 4) the weasel that deleted the subpoenaed files from the original SQL server specifically avoided swearing under oath that there was no data deleted that wasn't transferred. He didn't describe the process of moving the data, it leaves him wiggle room to say that "data was accidentally lost in the migration/deletion process". 5) the weasels said that they deleted 2020 election files "to save room on the server" but they couldn't answer why data remained on that server from previous elections 6) the auditors asked for "all of the 2020 data" and the excuse for moving the files and not making them available is that "they didn't ask for specific files that were on the server". FYI that's a bullshit answer because the subpoena covered all files relevant to the 2020 election. If the FBI asks me for my server and everything on it, I don't get to migrate data onto another hard drive, delete files from my server which are key to the FBI's investigation, and then say "but they didn't ask me for those files by name". That's not a thing, at all. That's a lame, see-through excuse for moving/deleting files from the SQL server that were subpoenaed. No, you do not know that at all, you just want to believe it. Your claim to know it is 100% false. FYI - the people who are suspected of cheating aren't the ones who get to audit the SQL server and "archive/delete" whatever they want in order to get ready. That's like if the police show up with a warrant to search your home and you say "just wait, I'm gonna throw some stuff in my burn barrel first". The auditor in the video said that he wasn't provided the data, furthermore, once things are deleted, the auditor can't possibly know what was deleted. I just deleted some files from my computer last week. Tell me exactly what they were, smeelious, then I'll believe that you and the auditor somehow know what was deleted from the subpoenaed information. The subpoena was for the 2020 election data from the SQL server, not for "the data that still exists on the SQL server today from the 2020 election". If the FBI asks you for your hard drive and all of the photos that you took at a crime scene, you don't get to present them with the hard drive and omit some pictures that you decided to delete from your hard drive and store elsewhere. No, that's a lie. The auditor clearly stated that the subpoena instructed the Maricopa officials to "turn over all of the files related to the 2020 election". It's at 2:50 of this video. That's one of the videos from the post above. You're making claims that you can't possibly know to be true here, claims that are proven to be false from just watching that 5-minute video, you referenced material that you claim to have looked up but you didn't provide any links to it which is the epitome of bullshit, and you made ridiculous claims about how casual it is to destroy/move evidence that is subpoenaed and then just say "well you didn't specifically ask for certain files on my computer by name". Your post was a twisted, smelly joke, smeelious.

People who were left behind in Afghanistan feel abandoned but the MSM doesn't cover it because they have to protect Biden. People in Canada and the US have been hurt or killed by vaccines but the MSM doesn't cover it because they have to protect Biden & Trudeau - the mask mandaters - and they have to protect Big Pharma's cash cow. The sheeple here in Canada have a toxic symbiotic relationship with the MSM. They get most of their self-esteem from parroting the virtue-signalling that the MSM belches out like raw sewage going into the St Lawrence, and they know it's 100% lies and spin, but they're so invested in being shining examples of that spin that they have to keep on perpetuating it, otherwise they're admitting that they're not actually great people, they're just rotten liars and slanderers.

The liberal MSM is protecting their idol. I'm sure that at one point this year, maybe on Feb 4th, inflation was up by 4.4%, so they can quote that stat until Dec 31st.

The vaxx skeptics only deal in facts. Literally all that we do is point out actual facts that destroy the MSM's intentionally misleading narratives. The only people who are rejecting truths are the people who are sucked in by the MSM's false narratives. Did you know that Demmies in the US thought that 40% of people who get covid end up in the hospital? It's actually between 1-5%, but almost all of those people are elderly with serious heath troubles. People who are grounded in facts are automatically skeptical of everything that they see from the MSM. Dude, you've been parroting MSM narratives here for years and you just never learn. You end up with egg on your face after literally every single topic has run it's course. A good rule of thumb for you would be to just refrain from commenting on these topics so that people have to guess how 'wrong' you are.

They're saying: "My body, my choice." You can't lie to people for 22 months straight and then just expect them to trust you when you say "Drink this." Everything that you just said there displays complete ignorance of the whole topic. 1) The MSM and health authorities have completely twisted and abused covid numbers for political purposes. Members of the general public who spent thousands of hours watching covid coverage in the MSM for the past two years have a completely distorted view of covid. My mother in law watches two hours of news a day and I still have to inform her of basic covid facts. It's sickening. 2.1) Trumpeting misleading/false anecdotes, and putting faces on the stories of outliers that support your narrative while blocking more poignant stories that damage your false narrative are the MSM's two favourite pastimes. 2.2) Your quote is an idiotic smear that has no place in polite dialogue. It's not a position of anyone in this debate that getting sent to the hospital isn't that bad. 3) You said something truthful. I'm not sure what to make of that. 4) Wow, your understanding of the world is on full display there.

We need to start a "Let's go Pluto" chant here in Canada.

So you're saying that the requested data wasn't removed and deleted from the servers that were turned over for the audit? And you're saying that you know for a fact that nothing was lost in the migration of data? FYI, if the FBI says that they want to audit the files on your office computer, you don't get to migrate files that they asked for from your computer, delete them from the hard drive, and archive them somewhere else. You're making a distinction without a difference.

That's not a good tradeoff at all. The youngest, healthiest Canadians are getting injured by a drug that offers them no benefit at all, and that offers no benefit to society. What do you say to a mother whose 13 year old was killed by the vaccine?