WestCanMan

Vaxx-Nazis, stop right there. Before you run your mouths about what ivermectin and vitamins can and can't do, just remember that you're not doctors and you don't have an expert medical opinion to weigh in with. Nothing that you saw on CTV or CNN matters because they don't have two little things called facts or integrity, so just read up on this issue to your heart's content before you tell us all what CNN's world renowned covid expert, Great Thunberg MD, said. FWIW I know that 98% of what's said about covid is bullshit, and this topic is no different, but if you care about covid you should look at it with an open mind. You can always rush to judgement later. Anyways, when India was experiencing the massive covid outbreak earlier this year, you know, the one that was so deadly that our own PM racistly blocked flights from there, (*shudder* THE SCARY-ASS DELTA VARIANT), some areas actually did send out packages with Vit's C & D, zinc, and some ivermectin. Then Covid died a sudden death there. https://www.thedesertreview.com/news/national/ivermectin-obliterates-97-percent-of-delhi-cases/article_6a3be6b2-c31f-11eb-836d-2722d2325a08.html I will say, in defence of ivermectin/vitamin skepticism, that I personally believe that Hindus and Indians in general have much stronger immune systems than people in any other country in the world due to the fact that 90% of the population are Hindus and they all wade into the Ganges river occasionally. I think that you could give 50% of Hindus oolong tea and 50% of them the vaxx and everyone under 60 would recover from covid like it was nothing. In other words, I don't really think that stats generated in India are a great indicator for what would happen in Canada when it comes to matters of the immune system. Still, this is an interesting story and I'm posting on it here after only skimming through a couple of articles. I don't have all day to research this, and ivermectin isn't something that I ever planned to use personally, but I don't believe in turning a blind eye to anything either.

We all have covid/vaccine anecdotes. Young people have died from the vaccine. Elite athletes have been hospitalized. There's an NBA player, Brandin Goodwin, saying that he's missing this whole season because of the vaccine, and he also said that he was told to keep it hush hush. My wife's best friend has a son who joined the navy about 6 years ago. I talked to him about it before he left, because I was in myself a long time ago, but I haven't seen him since he got in. Anyways, his mom said that he was 'paralyzed' for 12 hours after he got the second vaccine. I don't know what her version of paralyzed is, and I didn't hear it from her directly, just what she told my wife, but in any event it was really bad and even his doctor was very worried.

Military personnel are a federal responsibility.

And young people can still read that fine print, so they had no excuse.

Nothing is safe in extremes. NSAIDs are the most widely used drugs on earth, and about 15% of people exceed the maximum daily dose. That's what's not safe. I would agree that people need to be able to choose whether or not they take drugs with a chance of adverse side effects. People in the military here, and any civilian in the country who wants to participate in normal society. Re: the kidney problems, I met a young couple who were both into partying really heavily who discovered that they could avoid hangovers by eating two or three NSAIDs before bed. I don't remember if it was Advil or Tylenol or whatever, but they both developed severe liver damage. They weren't even in the 30s when I met them. They didn't die, but I think the damage was permanent. Like I said, anything is bad for you if you use it to the extreme.

Holy leftist drivel batman. There was nothing but lunacy and conspiracy theories from the Demmies, from the end of 2015 right up until election night. They even had lawyers, spies, Russians and people inside the FBI committing crimes for them. Now, in the 2020 election, there is actual evidence of the very crimes that Hillary spent 4 years trying to frame Trump for. Are you suddenly sick of that kind of thing when it's real?

It is safe within the parameters that I mentioned. However, mandating everyone in Canada to stay on a full prescription of ibuprofen would definitely come at a cost, just like force-vaxxing healthy males between 12-25 does. Do you get it treebeard? Forcing people to take a drug with adverse side effects is bad, especially when there's no actual reason for it in the first place. If you were at risk of having a stroke, would you take ibuprofen daily just so that you could go to restaurants, when there was no other actual benefit for you?

1) Trudeau was worried about offending terrorists for the last 6 years. He wouldn't even condemn virulent anti-Semitism at quds day hate rallies. Didn't that bother you? 2) There was no 'concern' about 'offending' people who chose not to get the vaccine. The conservatives actually did what Trudeau promised to do but just lied about - they took the common sense approach and didn't impose vaccine mandates on Canadians.

Yes, for sure. Like anything, if you take too much at one time, or take too many high doses over long period of time, you can start to get negative effects from it. Even vitamins are like that. If you don't have any Vitamin A in your body you'll die, and if you eat a polar bear's liver you'll die from the amount of Vitamin A in it. But ibuprofen is definitely safe for two doses, 21 days apart.

5,000 serious cases is a lot for people who are in a population demographic where they're not even likely to get the symptoms if they get covid. Most of the cases of myocarditis and pericarditis from vaxxing are in competitive male athletes between 17-25. The current strain of covid won't kill anyone like that in 100 years. There's no science behind vaccinating them, seeing as they can still spread covid anyways if they're vaxxed. A reasonable course of action with them is to test them to see if they've already had covid, and if so, give them the passport without vaxxing. Otherwise, just leave them be. If they want to travel they should just get tested before they leave and before they come back.

Yes, that's the main takeaway from the statement that "the vaccines are safe". How would you interpret that statement? Does safe mean "possibly fatal" where you come from?

But, but but... Everything that you posted there was stupid. His age group isn't 70+, do you get it? 2/3 of the covid deaths in Canada were from 80+, and they only make up 3-4% of the population. 26,400 deaths were from 60+, only 629 were from 0-59 yr olds. IE, there were 45 times more deaths from the eldest 10% of the population than there were in the 80% of the population below 60. Eight times as many people, 1/45th the amount of deaths. Do you see a pattern? It was there on the charts, but apparently I have to spell it out for you.

Read: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1228632/number-covid-deaths-canada-by-age/ And just remember that there are people in all of those age groups with things like CF, cancer, HIV, etc. Only 270 or so people in all of Canada died in over a year of covid. So it's exactly like I said: No, he got covid, which doesn't kill people or seriously injure people in his age demographic, just like the flu.

It was all part of the general anti-HCQ narrative back in 2020. "HCQ kills people and causes blindness. Wait for the vaccines, they will be safe."

Nah. You just need to get up to speed yourself. The things that I mentioned are common knowledge now. Does this guy look like an octogenarian with co-morbidities: https://www.talkbasket.net/134348-former-hawks-guard-claims-covid-19-vaccine-caused-blood-clots-that-ended-his-nba-season

No, he got covid, which doesn't kill people or seriously injure people in his age demographic, just like the flu.

A liar/slanderer is also someone who makes stuff up, period.

1) Guess what the flu can do to people... 400 flu deaths among children in the US isn't uncommon in a season. 2) I said that guy got really sick, just like what happens when people get the flu, and all that happened to that guy is that he got really sick, so I was correct. Her anecdote was 100% useless. 3) People have died from the vaccine. Gotten serious blood clots. Gotten permanent heart damage.

Either he knew that the vaccines weren't completely safe because people had already been injured by them, or he lied by pretending to know that they'd be completely safe when that was impossible. I guess that there may have been a small window in time between the date when vaxx manufacturers had assured him that "the vaccine trials were 100% concluded and they were 100% safe", and when the first serious adverse reactions were reported, but I'm not going to try to use that slight time frame to vindicate him. I have to concede a point to a leftist at least once in my lifetime. Not really. If I don't have any reason to call Mr X a pedophile, and I say that Mr X is a pedophile, then it was a lie when I said it. If at some point in the future we found out that Mr X actually was a pedophile, I'd still be considered a slanderer, because that's what I was doing when I said it.

But he didn't lose a leg, so again, just like the flu. Is that your standard now? You can just add "but he lost a leg" to every sentence? Did you lose a leg writing that post? Read her story. There was no leg lost.

Congrats, you finally found actual evidence of Trump lying. Still, he wasn't advocating for vaccine mandates and the ostracism of non-sheeple.

? Leftists applauded the BLM riots when thousands of police and civilians were physically assaulted and there was billions of dollars in property damages from arson and looting. High profile Demmies like Kamala ordered their Demmie AGs to release those criminals back into the streets without charges, and when they couldn't use autonomy they bailed them out. Now you want to go hard-core against some dude who is just grousing because he's being discriminated against? Your hypocrisy is worse than appalling. There are no words to describe how worthless the opinions of leftists actually are right now.

The MSM is like a resonant circuit, amplifying what it wants you to see and omitting anything that's contrary to their signal (false narrative). If two waitresses complained that will be enough to make a big fuss about. Just look at the terrorist in Loudon County in the states who attacked a PTA meeting. That was big news for Joy Reid et al. I mean, I guess that a terrorist attack in a school should be a big deal right? Especially when it involves sodomy (but that's actually part of the back-story). Nevermind that the attack was just some words, and they came from the parent of a 14 yr old girl who was raped (sodomized) in the girls' bathroom by a trans 15 yr-old boy wearing a skirt. The parent went to the PTA meeting to speak because the school was covering up the incident. That trans boy went on to rape another girl at a different school. IE, the system failed, and another girl was raped as a result. But the leftist MSM is still using the video of him to paint concerned parents at PTA meetings as terrorists. Fake news is way out of control in the US. Leftists are being brainwashed more thoroughly in the US now than the citizens of Germany were back in Hitler's time.

That's not the case with the vaccine passports. Businesses have no say in this at all, so don't act like this has anything to do with democracy or free enterprise.

Do you disagree with the choice to kill babies after they're making choices in the womb? Do you think that the vaccines stop people from spreading covid? Do you think that the people who are pushing the vaccines have lied to us too often to have any credibility left? Do you do anything aside from push MSM narratives? Have you ever caught the MSM lying?