WestCanMan

Nowhere does it say that even one healthy child had symptoms that are as severe as myocarditis, Aristedes. Again: why should healthy children take a dangerous vaccine to prevent them from getting a disease that's not dangerous for them? Of course kids with CF or cancer should probably take the risk, but I don't know if they're even eligible to get the shot.

I don't recall saying that I don't like you, but the things that you say here are definitely dumb. Not everyone who says those things are dumb though: some people say those things to control other, simpler people. Sorry dude, but you must realize by now that the vast majority of what comes from CNN and MSNBC is total bullshit.

That would make sense if the vaccine was safe, but it's not safe at all and you know that it's not safe unless you're an idiot. That would make some sense if the vaccine stopped people from getting covid, and spreading covid, but that's not the case either, and you know that as well unless you're an idiot. Are you one of the octogenarians that's willing to put their grandchildren in harm's way just to prevent themselves from getting a disease that they're triple-vaccinated against?

Well, at least it wasn't stupid, so it's a vast improvement from your avg post.

Right, use jb's matra: "Everything that I don't like or that proves I'm stupid is a q-anon conspiracy." Again: why should children take a dangerous vaccine to prevent them from getting a disease that's not dangerous for them? Are you a man or a mouse? Squeak up!

OMG are you still posting Aristedes? Have you no shame? Did you tell us yet why people between 5-30 should be vaxxed when: - covid doesn't harm them - they can still spread covid after they're vaccinated - there are serious risks associated with the covid vaccines? FYI I know a girl who was forced to vaccinate at 19 (she turned 20 in early December) in order to keep her job here at BC Lifelabs, that got a serious enough case of vax-induced myocarditis that she actually had a heart attack. Her heart literally stopped beating while she was in hospital. To make matters worse she had to take time off of work and she didn't get paid for it. Now she's on four different heart medications for God knows how long. Of all the people I know who have experienced vax side-effects she's the only one who (thankfully) has a medical exemption for getting fully vaxxed. Why do you advocate for people like her to take a chance with the vax Aristedes? Why did a 19 yr-old need to take a dangerous pseudo-vaxx for a disease that would never harm her, when we know that she can still spread that disease after she's vaxxed? You've never been able to answer that question but you still keep running your not-so-smart mouth about the vaccines. Did you see the stats for dbl-vaxxed deaths now? Can you admit that dbl-vaxxed people still die? Can you admit that there have been more dbl-vaxxed deaths since sring of this year than there have been under-50 deaths since the start of the pandemic? Fess up Aristedes. Your stupidity here is dangerous.

This is all just a move away from qualifying teachers based on their ability to teach the sciences and towards qualifying them based on their SJW/CRT dogma proficiency (aka racism). FYI people don't send their kids to school to be subjected to the social/political opinions of people that they don't know. They send them to learn the sciences, language skills, plus a few electives. People who don't want to see kids earning credits for a course called "Winning 101: The Trump Years" shouldn't be advocating for the politicization of schools because it's just a matter of time before their kids start being indoctrinated with subject matter that they don't appreciate. The most racist thing in all of this is the theory that blacks, FN people, latinos, etc can't qualify to become teachers because they can't learn math. Why should we care if stupid people aren't allowed to teach our future generations? Do population projections show a shortage of Liberal Party of Canada toadies in the future if we don't dumb down our teachers? I don't even understand the theory that certain groups of people can't do math. For every Katherine Johnson or Douglas Cardinal there are plenty of people just below them who might not be able to teach rocket science but are overqualified to teach grade 8. Leftards: "Let's start hiring people to teach our children based on the merits of their skin colour!"

Then you must have a link to go along with your blathering idiocy. No? Just the blathering idiocy then? I'm pretty sure that we all saw enough of that from you during 4 years of the Russian collusion show trial, aka: "The Biggest Lie Ever".

What you're seeing isn't a forum with a majority of conservatives, it's a forum where a small minority of people have the vast majority of the facts on their side all the time. There have been plenty of people who propagated AOC idiocy and Pelosi platitudes here but in the end every single topic eventually comes around to bite them in the ass. You're probably taking the right tack at the present, by just making sandbox insults and never venturing to present anything that you consider to be fact-based commentary, but eventually even you will get sick of just hearing q anon as an answer to every question that makes you look stupid, and you'll come out of your shell, quote one of your sources, and then you'll be blown out of the water. Then you'll be coming back here with a new username to take another kick at the can, and like clockwork, all of your lies and bullshit will fail spectacularly again. 1) You'd be the resident expert on that topic 2) I'm not surprised to hear that you lose debates with bricks as well Leftists did that for half of 2014 and all of 2015 through 2020, and now you're pissed off about 90 minutes worth of rioting by conservatives? Talk about hypocrisy. The funny part is that you come here making nothing but sandbox insults & stupid comments and then suddenly you're talking about whether or not other people deserve a response ? You literally wrote those two sentences side by side. It's like you were just trying to make the case that you're not worth talking to. You also skipped an opportunity to address 12 topics that make leftists look stupid, then you threw out a straw man argument to try to make conservatives look bad. It's like you were just trying to make the case that you're not worth talking to. I see a pattern. You're on a roll jb1A. ?

If you had more than just sandbox insults to go with then you could answer those questions no problem, but the sad fact for you is that when you look at that list all that you see is a whole lost of topics that expose leftist stupidity & lies.

Not really. The media creates a false narrative that's politically advantageous/protectionist for their leftist leaders and then they stick to it like shit to a baby blanket. They'll sell the emotional aspects of the story that they want their viewers to fixate on, they'll give their fake reasons why the shit is happening (racism, misogyny, Republican greed, religious bigotry, white supremacist, white priviliege), they'll bring on some 'experts' who will tell lies that they won't fact check, they'll omit all of the facts that detract from their narrative, and if there are facts that they don't like but they can't ignore they will portray them in the most unemotional way possible and they'll do it as infrequently as possible. They operate like an old car radio, amplifying the frequencies that they want you to hear and dampening the ones that they don't want you to hear, and they do the same with the emotions of each story. Eg, Trayvon Martin gets a bright shiny face (12 yr old pic) and a heartwarming backstory, Zimmerman was portrayed as a white supremacist Mexican American. Obama says "that could have happened to my son", meaning that Trayvon was dead no matter what, because being a calm, rational, respectful person wouldn't have been enough to save him from the bad cop menace that's endemic in American cities. Contrast that with the "car accident" in Waukesha. The guy who did it was "running away from a domestic disturbance", blocks away at his home. Did Zimmerman get an excuse? Nope. Darrell Brooks had just used his car as a vehicle earlier that month and was out on $1,000 bail, but this wasn't an 'attack'. He had written a rap video about the Rittenhouse verdict and posted it on social media, and that verdict was less than a week old. The attack was less than a 1 hr drive from Kenosha, where the riot was where Rittenhouse shot 3 men. He had social media posts advocating for attacks against white people. Despite all of that, the MSM was completely certain that it wasn't a vehicular attack and that it was completely unrelated to the Rittenhouse case. Cole's Notes: Zimmerman did it BECAUSE he was part of the racist cop menace and for no other reason. Brooks DID NOT do anything to be a menace and there's no reason to suspect that he did. He's just the worst driver in the world. People who watched both of those stories on CNN were given reasons to hate/fear whites/cops/Republicans and leftists were completely stripped of any political/racial affiliations. Do you get it? https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/22/us/waukesha-car-parade-crowd-monday/index.html That's what CNN initially said, then they added more detail later, bringing it to this: but that was still not even close. Actually he ran over his girlfriend, after he punched her out, so it was clearly a vehicular attack. It's more like this: He punched out the mother of his child and then ran her over with his car, and he was released on $1,000 bail. Then he posted some calls to violence against white people, released a Rittenhouse verdict video, and ran over more than 40 people an hour away from Kenosha. But it's completely unrelated, and not any kind of terrorist attack. No, they don't. No one with any brains believes what they see on CNN. Who cares? I'm talking about the 37% who said that they wouldn't consider going on a date with someone who was Republican. Some people have the ability to predict things that you don't even understand it after they happen and it's all explained to you.

I'll just keep repeating the really simple parts and you tell me which ones you don't understand. 1) Dems and their media outlets (NBC, NPR, CNN, MSNBC etc) say things like Trump is racist, Trump's supporters are racist, police are committing genocide against black men, systemic racism is everywhere, white privilege is everywhere, Floyd was murdered because of racism, Brionna was murdered because of racism, white supremacists are the biggest terrorist threat in America, there are white terrorists at PTA meetings, etc 2) Stupid people who watch them on TV believe what they're seeing 3) People who believe what they see on TV feel like they could never associate with Republicans. What part don't you understand, eyeball? 1, 2 or 3? Is there not a 6 yr old there who can explain it to you?

Holy drivel, Batman, you drank enough Kool-Aid for a dozen leftist dolts. I just want to plumb the depths of your 'knowledge' lol for fun: 1) Have any double-vaxxed people ever died of covid? 2) Do the vaccines stop the spread of covid? 3) Are the vaccines safe? 4) Was Brionna Taylor shot in bed for being black? 5) Did Trump collude with Russians? 6) Did Hillary collude with Russians? 7) Did the FBI commit any crimes during the Russian collusion show trial? 8) Did the Dems get caught cheating more than once in the 2016 election? 9) Was Dr Ford a credible witness? 10) Was Jussie Smollett beaten up by a couple of white Trump supporters? 11) Were the BLM riots mostly peaceful? 12) Did the BLM police kill black kids at a rate that would be considered genocidal by their own standards? 13) Were 6 people killed in a Waukesha car accident recently or was it a racist, politically motivated mass murder/terrorist attack?

Eyeball, you're a leftist who gets sucked into every CNN narrative that ever came out. FYI everybody thinks that they don't get sucked into lies. Leftists scream 'disinformation' all the time (right on cue). My OP is bang on target. Leftists are told that Republicans are misogynists, racists, terrorists, etc and they don't think for themselves so they can't imagine associating with such evil people. Leftists spent 4 years screaming that Trump colluded with Russians. People fought with their family members for years over that. Did leftists ever apologize for being wrong for that whole time? Did they ever acknowledge that FBI agents and Hillary's lawyer were committing crimes to keep that hoax going? Nah, they just moved on to the next big lie because anything else would require an admission of guilt, and as crusaders and SJWs, they feel like they can't be wrong or their false sense of superiority will vanish. I am completely aware of the fact that you can't understand this. It's not that your brain couldn't understand something this simple when it's explained to you. Even a 4 year old would understand that when you tell someone that a group of people is really bad, they will avoid them. It's just that you're in denial.

You're getting off topic. I'm talking about how leftists have gone from normal people with reasonable points of view who can talk about normal topics with normal people to brainwashed bigots who support violence and can't tolerate anyone who doesn't wave their idiotic flags. It's not about you.

Don't forget the tinfoil hats. 5G is coming! Maybe there should be a new country where everything is sterilized and bubble-wrapped, hey eyeball? No filthy dogs or cats running around, kids are forced to wash their hands at the top of every hour, there's only 1 news channel and they have full control over social media - to prevent disinformation, everybody gets the same standard of life regardless of what they contribute to the community, etc. OMG, I can't wait to move to Eyeballistan once they've identified the one true religion and their constitution is ratified. Good times! And by good, I mean super-boring but sooooooo safe.

Merry Christmas to everyone, and happy holidays to everyone who doesn't celebrate Christmas. I just found out that Hanukkah was over nearly a month ago. I had no idea.

The hate/fear mongering that the Dems are doing right now is akin to the way that the Nazis talked about Jews. Dems: "Everything about conservatives is amoral, evil and dangerous, and now they're all infected with a deadly virus. What should we do to them? Is there any action that we could take against them isn't justifiable? They're kind of like zombies, right?" Merry Christmas ironstone! ?

I am not at all surprised that you don't see the connection. You're one of the people who couldn't figure out that they were being lied to, then you had a really hard time understanding the length, breadth and significance of those lies, and then you failed to understand how significant it is that the people you trust are lying to you constantly, and then you weren't smart enough to stop trusting those people because you're not able to predict that the things that they say in the future will also be lies. Why would I expect a person with a complete lack of understanding in every way imaginable to understand the connection between 'the way the Dems' lies make you feel' and 'the way the Dems' lies make you feel about the people who the Dems are lying about'? Trust me eyeball, the connection is super-obvious. If you grew up in a country where people didn't keep dogs as pets, and they told you that dogs are really vicious and dangerous, you'd shit your pants when a golden retriever ran towards you wagging your tail. That's how leftists feel about conservatives. They've been told that conservatives are racists and that they are the largest terrorist threat in America and that they're anti-abortion misogynists and they're anti-Semites and they're _________s etc, etc, etc. Why are you shocked that people who are stupid enough to listen to Dems and CNN are unwilling to date Republicans? If even half of the things that the Dems say about Republicans is true then no one should date them. I sure as hell hope that you can connect the dots right now because they're visible from outer space.

That's just an unsubstantiated opinion against years worth of lying and division, which I cited above. If you think that you can make the case that the Dems and MSM were anything but lying and divisive in any of those stories that I mentioned, go for it, otherwise you're just another of Pelosi's useful idiots blathering. The Dems play softer? They got caught cheating 3 times on the 2016 election, and then they spent 4 years lying about it. Hillary's lawyer is being criminally charged for his part in it, members of the FBI have been demoted, fired and criminally charged for their parts in aiding the Dems in election cheating. The Dems incited widespread violence, rioting, arson, looting, and even the murders of police officers. They called that "mostly peaceful protests". Obama even stood in front of 5 dead police officers in Dallas and insinuated that "centuries of slavery and racism" were to blame. The Dems are divisive, hateful scum. Kamala Harris talked gleefully about the prospect of the 2020 riots continuing until after Christmas when she was on Colbert's show in August. There were already thousands of officers injured at that point. There was billions of dollars in damages. And that wretched piece of crap just wanted to keep on bailing out violent criminals and roasting marshmallows over communities that were being destroyed. Oh grow up ffs. The Dems wouldn't know science if it bit them on the ass. I was too busy watching people get murdered and assaulted to notice a couple of comments that amounted to nothing. Your other anecdotes are just disproven bullshit but hey, you can compare your idiotic lies to the 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2020 riots if you want to. That might be the dumbest thing that I've ever seen on this site, but you're only on your 9th post. Seems like shits about to get unreal. Tell that to the retarded kid who was scalped by 4 BLMers sjaldan. Tell it to the girl who was murdered for saying "all lives matter'. Tell that to all of the cops that were murdered by BLMers. Tell that to the BLM protestors who chant "Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon". There are racist crimes against white people all the time in the US. Just because you approve of it doesn't make it somehow right.

That's it? You said [paraphrasing] that the worst thing that happens to dbl-vaxxed people is that they get "infected" and unvaxxed go to the hospital. I just showed you that almost 1,000 fully dbl-vaxxed have died in Canada. You couldn't have been more wrong. I've challenged you many times to present your case for vaxxing people under 40, under 30, or 12-18 and you still haven't even taken a swing and a miss. You just regurgitate what CTV says all the time but you can't back anything up. Why is it that I have stats and you just have opinions every time? C'mon Aristedes. Don't just repeat what you see on CTV ffs. I know that you fancy yourself to be an intelligent & informed person, so just DO SOME FACT CHECKING. DO SOME OF YOUR OWN THINKING. DON'T LET CTV GIVE YOU YOUR OPINIONS IN NEAT LITTLE SOUND BITES. They lie and omit ALL THE TIME. You know for a fact that Rayshard Brooks wasn't "Killed after falling asleep at a drive-thru." Just because a narrative tickles your politicalbone doesn't mean that you should accept it as established fact. Do you know any people whose comments have to be taken with a grain of salt? Our MSM is actually right squarely in that same category. Quoting them is like quoting Bernie Madoff.

If you take the childish insults out of your post there's nothing left eyeball. You could have chosen a single topic there and tried to prove that the Dems and their media outlets covered it honestly and accurately at the time that information was coming out if you wanted to offer a worthwhile counter to my argument, but you can't. The fact is that they lied and divided at every opportunity, and you brought uninformed opinions and snotty insults in your defence of them. Unless you have something intelligent to add, we're done here. Judging by your posting history, we're done here.

Bullshit. Demanon crapola.

About 50% of the people that I know are vaxxed and three had very serious side-effects including temporary paralysis (25 yr old male in the navy), heart stoppage (21 yr old girl), and 2 hours of seizures (55 yr old man). Double-vaxxed still die. Get your head out of your ass. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1257040/number-covid-deaths-canada-by-vaccination-status/ Those stats go from Dec 14 2020 when zero people were vaccinated, until Nov 27th. Almost 1,000 dbl-vaxxed died in Canada (981), and there have only been dbl-vaxxed since about Feb 14th. 752 died "unprotected, I'm pretty sure that means "had a vax, died within 14 days". If that's the case, some of those may have been killed by the vax itself. 731 partially protected, I think that means 1 vax plus the 14 day waiting period. 7,861 unvaxxed. It's 8x as many unvaxxed as dbl-vaxxed, but there wasn't a single dbl-vaxxed person in Canada for the first two months of this data collection. It wasn't until June/July when the dbl-vaxxed reached 50% of the population. The unvaxxed had several times as much exposure during this time frame. Only 3x as many unvaxxed died than [partially + unprotected + dbl vaxxed], and again, they had more exposure. Since the beginning of the pandemic only 794 people under 50 died of covid. That period encapsulates 10 more months of covid deaths, but there are still 1.2 as many covid deaths among dbl-vaxxed as there are among people under 50.

Adverse reactions to the vax are infinitely higher in the double-vaxxed group. Dbl-vaxxed people still get covid. Dbl-vaxxed people still die of covid. Dbl-vaxxed people still spread covid. Covid still only kills people within a specific target demographic: very elderly people with co-morbidities. There's still no data showing that people outside of the at-risk groups actually needed the vaccines.