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On 12/2/2018 at 1:33 PM, eyeball said:
Where were you when real lefties were warning how globalisation and climate change would cause mass migration today? Still in kindergarten I suspect.
Chicken little's climate theories are causing mass stupidity, or at least gathering the birds of a duller feather.
Globalization isn't causing mass migration either. War in Syria and other shithole countries is causing a forced exodus from Arica and the middle east.
In the western hemisphere mass migration is a combination of 3 things: the dumpster fire known as socialism in Venezuela, Trump boasting about the strong American economy, and the Democrats' encouragement of illegal immigration and a whole plethora of other idiotic policies.
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1 hour ago, Queenmandy85 said:
So, what you are saying is that the government wants to build the transmountain pipeline, but they don't want to export the oil? Everyone is blaming the feds when it is those three bozos in the BC legislature that are holding everyone hostage. Weaver is the best advertisement yet against PR.
As for Coyne, he ignores the fact that it was the NDP who killed electoral reform by insisting on proportional representation.
Energy East stalled because Quebec refused it. The Northern Gateway was a disaster waiting to happen. Transmountain is being held up by the three idiots who control the BC government.
Would anyone seriously want the Federal Government to run roughshod over a province?
Trudeau and his toadies are talking out of both sides of their mouths. They talk like they want the pipeline when they're out west, but when they're in a foreign country they're all about shutting down the oil sands.
If your realtor said that they were trying really hard to sell your house, but they're also posting on social media about how your home is a hideous blight on the environment, do you really think they're trying to sell your house? Or if they are, are they doing a good job of it? Do you think they're trying their best?
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43 minutes ago, Goddess said:
Interesting that we don't allow the Catholics to deal with their shit "privately."
IMO they can deal with anything they want privately, as long as it's not a crime. Crimes are a matter for the police and judicial system. If I commit a crime it's not cool for the rest of Canada if I just have to answer to my mom for it.
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Hillary is an idiot. When you're a leader you're supposed to see problems in advance, not just notice them afterwards. The only thing that got her this far is her sickening lust for power and her pathological lying.
People complain about Trump's comments about crowd size and the weather at his inauguration, those aren't even material facts and they're not lies either. The Benghazi lies were epic and the whole affair showed her complete lack of competence and awareness. She would have been in way over her head if she was elected.
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13 minutes ago, Goddess said:
I've searched for some evidence that this has been denounced by mainstream Islam in Canada, but I have found nothing. Only other religions have denounced it.
Of course, the argument is that Muslims have no responsibility to denounce such things. They appear to subscribe to the course of action mentioned in your post:
QuoteThe Dar Al-Arqam Mosque has not returned CBC's calls.
Dar Al-Arqam is not a member of the Muslim Council of Montreal, which represents more than 40 Muslim institutions in the city, according to council president Salam Elmenyawi.
Elmenyawi says he spoke with member imams after first hearing about the sermon so they knew it was unacceptable.
This is the extent of what I could find re: muslim leaders trying to suppress hate speech. One imam's personal account of a conversation that he theoretically had with other imams. It's basically just him saying "we are dealing with it privately".
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On 11/24/2018 at 1:28 PM, Zeitgeist said:
I still don’t understand why managing the border is a challenge today, given satellite and drone technology, as well as infrared cameras. Simply have a system of drones over borders, co-managed by both countries. If someone crosses a border illegally, track them and deploy law enforcement. I think even Trump knows that walls are a medieval solution: “Okay maybe a ladder” can surmount the wall. As for existing illlegals, deport in a humane way and make it easier to immigrate for Dreamers who’ve been in the country more than a couple of years through no fault of their own than it is for their parents. These shouldn’t be such polarizing issues, if we tone down the rhetoric, proceed humanely, and stop separating children from their parents.
As for Britain, yes Brexit will be messy, but it looks like they’ll reestablish their independence, for better or worse. Being an island has always made managing the border easier than for mainland Europe. I still think we’re better off with free movement of residency and labor within free trade blocks, but security of the block must be carefully managed and the federal government of such a block should have very limited power and spending ability. National identities and values must be protected. Loose federations with good security.
The thing with walls is that once they're up, they do most of the work themselves.
It would be exponentially more expensive to continually police every inch of that border 24/7/365 with thousands of humans, dogs, drones, etc, for the length of time that a wall would be up. And you could never stop the large caravans without walls. Tens of thousands of people all rushing the border 24/7 for a few weeks straight.... You'd need a large army to keep that under control.
Another thing about stopping groups like that with just raw manpower is that it would also require huge detainment centers, plus staffing for said buildings, food and clothing for people being held there, and huge teams of immigration officials to deal with such a rush of people.
It's like putting the toothpaste back in the tube, because once you release them they're just going to turn around and rush the border again.
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On 11/28/2018 at 7:37 AM, Queenmandy85 said:
How much money did the oil companies get from foreign sources to lobby for the oil sands?
Do you know that's the case or are you just making that assumption? And fwiw, I don't really care how much money people pour into our country in support of our industries.
The biggest joke in all of this is that people like climate Barbie (aka pro-raw-sewage Barbie) cry about Canadian oil going through our coastal waterways to foreign markets, but they don't care that foreign oil is coming into our country through the exact same waterways.
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3 hours ago, Centerpiece said:
Something that Andrew Coyne said last year - it bears repeating - over and over........
His name should be "Sir Andrew Coyne.
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On 11/29/2018 at 8:07 AM, GostHacked said:
So , in short.. the answer is .. nothing. Got it.
Nothing would be to ignore it and hope it goes away all by itself. Keeping it in the national discourse is something all by itself. Electing a government like they did in Ontario is also something.
al quds day speeches and other hate speeches of that sort will have to be held in basements from now on, where they belong.
It was good to see it out in the open though, just to give Canadians a better sense of what we're dealing with.
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3 hours ago, eyeball said:
No, I'm pretty sure the word boo would be enough to convince you.
So you think that what was said at the last a-q day rally amounted to no more than "boo"? Do you think that hate rallies should be more common? Do you ever attend hate rallies? Would you go to the next al quds day hate rally?
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1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said:
Who started the Arab-Israeli Conflict?
There were Allah-worshippers before mohammed came along, and there wasn't a problem with Jews at that time.
When mohammed was kicked out of Mecca for his violent bigotry, his problem at that time was actually with people who worshipped Allah but were still polytheists, and worshipped lesser gods as well.
The problem that will forever sour relations between the Jews and Muslims is that mohammed's army captured a tribe of Jews and beheaded all the men (est. between 500-900) who refused to convert, and then forced the women and children into rape-slavery. he was there at the time.
Whether his intent was to attack only that specific tribe of Jews, it's easily interpreted by muslims today as proof that the way to deal with another religion is by genocide, with any means possible. The attack on the Banu Qurayza set a deadly precedent.
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18 hours ago, eyeball said:
I'm not, an asteroid could fall on it for all I care. I'm just doubtful about the claim that the rally in Toronto called for the death of all Jews, and especially the evidence for that claim. Putting forth the notion that no one has lost, gained or otherwise 'exchanged' territory in Palestine/Israel as evidence only makes the OP's claim all the more ludicrous.
It doesn't have to call for "the deaths of all Jews" to qualify as hate speech. And you're setting the bar pretty high eyeball. Holding a rally to incite bigotry-inspired violence and killing is an open-ended task that doesn't stop at just a few, or 80,000.
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1 hour ago, eyeball said:
You're suggesting territories have not grown or shrunk to anyone's benefit or disadvantage?
Tell the truth now.
How did it grow eyeball? Did someone attack Israel and then end up getting hoisted on their own petard?
You're asking other people to tell the truth while you're being deliberately misleading.
Israel's land mass went from what, 0.85% to 0.86% of the land in the Arabian peninsula? And now the Palestinian refugees have nowhere to go for the last 70 yrs? Is that your point?
Why are you so fixated on that land? Can the Hindus get back some of their land in Pakistan? Can they get their lives back? Can 70,000 women be un-raped now?
Your humanitarian streak is focused on a very specific group of people. You don't care about anyone else. That actually seems more like bigotry than humanitarianism.
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5 hours ago, GostHacked said:
Israel was wiped out once. It CAN be wiped out again. But does that mean it SHOULD be wiped out? I'll wait for you and Dog to shove words into my mouth YET again.
You seem to think that talking about things like "eradicating Israel" and "wiping out Israel" and the fact that "Israel was wiped out" before is ok if you just fall a bit short of actually promoting genocide. It's not as cute as you think. It's actually a really sick little dance that you are doing. You have no clue how evil those events actually were.
mohammed himself presided over the beheadings of approximately 800 Jews (the Banu Qurayza - google it) when they refused to convert to islam. Their wives and children were forced into rape-slavery.
They have done this to over 100 million people in the 1,400 years since, and they still did things mohammed's way in this decade, in Syria.
That is the method by which Israel was wiped from the map. What you are accusing Israel of is a total joke by comparison and it's really pathetic that you would talk about muslim-style eradication.
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On 11/17/2018 at 1:22 PM, eyeball said:
This is strictly about people being assholes.
We should simply have two signs in Canada to deal with this, one that reads 'Don't be an asshole' for new arrivals and one the reads, 'See you later asshole' for assholes we kick out.
We should have a sign that says "If you're an asshole you're gone" and we should abide by it. But we don't. If we actually did that then there would be no problems.
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On 4/14/2018 at 2:48 AM, marcus said:
I don't fail to mention it. I have often mentioned Wahabism as being an ugly ideology as well. Both Zionism and Wahabism will trample over other people's human rights for their own selfish gains. One happens to have a much better PR team.
The question is, which one of these ugly ideologies do we support? Unfortunately, at the moment, Canada supports Zionism and very recently, they are supporting Saudi Arabia, through selling military vehicles. Saudi backs its crazy, uncontrollable dog, who creates chaos in the Middle East, ISIS. Not to mention Saudi's crimes against humanity in Yemen.
Zionism and Wahhabism are completely different.
To understand zionism, think about how badly muslims would want mecca back if it was taken over by a different culture/religion. Taking back what's actually yours, or something that you at least have some form of credible claim to, isn't as evil as killing people to take what's theirs by right. Zionism used to be really evil, when the land didn't actually belong to the Jews and they were committing war crimes and making deals with evil people to get it back. Zionism has changed into protecting the land that they have now which is far less "evil". It's actually "normal". Just like the Saudis would protect Mecca, and the actual families living in Saudi Arabia.
Wahhabism is entirely different. Think more along the lines of what "zionization" would mean. No other belief system, rules of law, or bills/charters of rights would be allowed to exist anywhere. Jewish law would control everything, everywhere around the world, on penalty of death and the enslavement of your children.
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3 hours ago, GostHacked said:
Correct. So to say there were Isrealis (aside from the ANCIENT Isrealis) before 1946 is a false notion.
At no point did I ever say that Israel was there before 1946.
I'm well aware of their dark history, their major shortcomings from back in that era, the terrorists that they elected still honour with holidays to this day, whose side they fought on in WWII, etc. I doubt that you could surprise me. Remember I said that I was pro-Palestinian before (but I never at any point a proponent of genocide, which I'm now realizing you guys are. I was in favour of a return to the 1967 borders but I see the geographical folly of trying to defend a nation that's only a few kilometers wide against several countries). Unlike you and eyeball I'm not afraid of cognitive dissonance.
IMO, after consideration of the recent & distant past and everything in between, the current state of Israeli continuing to exist is by far the lesser of two evils.
Just look at the entire 1,400 year history Islam and you'll see that islamic state isn't an aberration. They're more of a continuation. Judaism has it's share of massacres as well. It's literally a big sandbox over there, and you can try to pick a side but you can never really vouch for either of them 100%.
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1 hour ago, GostHacked said:
Where did I say any of that?
QuoteIt was done once, it can potentially be done again.
Dog on Porch just got you to say it. Apparently he's 3 steps ahead of you.
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4 hours ago, eyeball said:
Well, I'd say that's your problem right there.
I’m ok with not knowing every possible meaning for every idiom in the English language.
You’re ok with people hinting at genocide.
I think that only one of us really has a “problem”.
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40 minutes ago, eyeball said:
Yes it seems like a pretty weasely thing to do alright.
Only to people who pay attention to weasels blowing whistles.
And you people actually expect politicians to sort this nonsense out. That's what's really funny.
I don't know if dog whistling is always "evil" or "weasely", but in this context it is totally evil. It was a sheikh, ie a leader of men, referencing religious texts which call for genocide on a massive scale.
Enough people pay attention to weasels blowing whistles that they elected Mohammed Morsi as president of Egypt. That's a lot of weasel susceptibility imo. And Egypt was considered to be one of the more moderate muslim states for a very long time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Morsi
Morsi has referenced the "hiding behind trees" phrases as well as:
QuoteMorsi, in September 2010, 2 years before he was elected: "the Israelis are blood-suckers, warmongers, and descendants of apes and pigs"
It's not difficult to see the evil, it's just unusual for politicians to call it for what it is.
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2 hours ago, eyeball said:
These aren't Betsy's articles however, where in them does it say; death to all Jews? It should be easy to find the point of the OP in the sources used as evidenced for it don't you think?
Referencing the phrase from the hadith about the last Jews hiding behind rocks and trees, and the trees and rocks saying “Oh muslim there is a Jew hiding behind me, come kill him” is a way of saying that everything created by god will turn against the Jews, and there will be nowhere to hide from the final genocide.
You could call it “dog whistling”, ie speaking in code that will go largely unnoticed by people who aren’t familiar with the phrase in question. But it’s considered to be “an explicit message from god that all Jews need to be killed”.
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2 hours ago, eyeball said:
Map 1 - There was no Israel in 1946.
Map 2 - The partition which created Israel didn’t result in genocide or mass systemic rape, unlike the formation of Pakistan at roughly the same time. But you don’t care about that, you keep failing to chime in on the topic.
Map 3 & 4 - would still be exactly the same as Map 2 if Israel wasn’t getting attacked all the time.
Map 5 - below. Do you see how much room there is in the Middle East for the Palestinians to re-settle to? All of Israel and Palestine make up about 1% of the Middle East. Millions of Syrians already found homes since 2016, when they were fleeing more Islamic genocides. Yet the Palestinians are still in “refugee camps” 70 years later...? They obviously don’t fear genocide. They’re just there to foment hatred. To suck in some haters.
You have 4 maps that you actually understand now. Glad to be of service.
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On 11/23/2018 at 1:38 PM, eyeball said:
You'd have to ask someone who's actually done that.
I notice Betsy never managed to point out where in the sources she provided where it said the rallies called for the death of all Jews, can you?
If not then wtf are you trying to stand on? A moral perhaps, high ground?
Here's one. This part of the koran refers to a final battle when the Jews are finally wiped out.
You can find all kinds of people who quote that verse, and they aren't just lowly imams either.
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/15/world/middleeast/egypts-leader-morsi-made-anti-jewish-slurs.html
Mohammed Morsi.
There are others. Basically everyone in Iran says things like that at breakfast, lunch and dinner.
These are the people you're supporting. Your homies. The anti-Israel crowd. You're such a great person eyeball. Please frown on us some more. We're not worthy.
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On 11/23/2018 at 1:29 PM, eyeball said:
No, of course not. In the meantime notice how Israel is in fact eradicating Palestine. Are you actually suggesting you have a problem with that because your stock would definitely go up if you did.
You said you were Trudeau's age? It shows.
Israel isn't eradicating Palestinians at all. Pakistan "eradicated" people. By the hundreds of thousands. Millions. There's a big difference. You must be really mad about that because you're a humantarian, right? Or would it suit you better if the Israelis just killed all the Palestinians and then it could all be forgotten in a few years?
Palestine will be just fine when they stop firing rockets and mortars, blowing up cars, being losers, etc.
When I was younger I actually was pro-palestinian. Then the reality set in that refugee camps are actually just fiction. Those people aren't there because they need to be in refugee camps, they're just there to foment hatred against Israel. It's been 70 years now. Germany alone took in almost as many refugees in 1 years as the total number of refugees in Palestine right now. All of the Palestinians could have found homes long ago.
The people who are using the Palestinians as pawns don't want a decent solution. They want to keep the hatred alive until they finally get the chance to commit genocide just like their prophet did back in the day. You're a tool for the people who want to commit genocide eyeball. A pawn.
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Hilary singing Trump's song on migration
in Federal Politics in the United States
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Climate change isn’t the real issue. Shortage of clean water is a bigger issue, and it’s mainly due to overpopulation.
When water sources are tapped to the max it takes very little to tip the scales.