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6 hours ago, Boges said:
Interesting how a certain member is apt at pivoting any discussion about President Trade Tarif to talking about other leaders.
Flail On!
Trade tariffs aren't the greatest evil the world has ever seen. I don't know why you're so hung up on the fact that Trump is protecting American jobs.
Would you think more of him if he was chasing away investment and killing jobs like Trudeau?
Who would you rather have as PM: Trump or Trudeau?
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On 3/10/2018 at 5:37 PM, eyeball said:
Absolutely, virtually every human being who is governed needs to crack down on the lying scheming bastards that are all to often governing them. But this is a completely different issue that transcends race creed colour...I suspect you'll find much the thing same through-out the entire universe.
It's just a really sad version of that story. The people who are suffering on the reserves are suffering more than people anywhere else in north america.
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On 12/11/2018 at 7:40 AM, Wilber said:
No, they engineer ridings so that their supporters represent a majority. The result is states like Pennsylvania where the Republicans got 45% of the vote but 55% of the seats. Some of their electoral maps look like a box of distorted pieces of ginger, as if ginger isn’t distorted enough already.
The US system also allows state legislatures to pull the same garbage when it comes to drawing federal boundaries. It is a thouroghly corrupt system that allows politicians to pick their voters rather than the other way around.
I don't know how you see my comments meaning something else. Maybe you need to read those responses again, or maybe you're just reading a definition from wiki and you don't really understand it completely.
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On 12/11/2018 at 7:44 AM, Wilber said:
Do you seriously believe that 50%+ of the vote equaling less than 1/3 of the seats represents any kind of a democratic result?
Tough to say. Do you want the people from 3 sq km of a city center to control a whole state? That's not good either.
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FWIW, whenever I see the thread title referencing "The Banana Republic", I keep thinking it's about the fact that the leader of the Democrat Party started an investigation into a political adversary without any actual evidence that a crime had been committed.
Normally you start out with a crime and figure out who did it. When you start investigating a person just to see if you can find out if they committed any crimes, you risk drawing comparisons to Lavrentiy Beria.
https://www.oxfordeagle.com/2018/05/09/show-me-the-man-and-ill-show-you-the-crime/
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Some interesting info about Huawei.
Check out this quote from the article:
QuoteThe deaths triggered a revision of the company policy on overtime, and the creation of a chief health and safety officer role.
Still think your job sucks? Lol.
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4 hours ago, turningrite said:
if Scheer, who comes across as affable and ordinary, doesn't seem to offer any kind of substantive alternative to Trudeau,
We could elect a steaming pile of shit as PM and it could do nothing but attract flies for the next 4 years and it would still be a substantive improvement.
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3 hours ago, turningrite said:
if Scheer, who comes across as affable and ordinary, doesn't seem to offer any kind of substantive alternative to Trudeau, the Libs will win. Bernier's presence in the mix may be the only thing that prevents another Lib majority.
If Scheer promised a modest $40 billion dollar deficit over the next 4 years and said that he wouldn't drive away investment, kill off parts of our economy, cater to foreign resources over Canadian options, or give the red carpet treatment to terrorists he would be a substantive alternative to Trudeau.
QuoteAs for Singh, I think he and his party are in for a drubbing. The big risk is that NDP voters will move to shore up Lib support if Scheer and/or Bernier gain significant traction.
Singh's party is toast, and the Libs will get all those votes.
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5 hours ago, Boges said:
In most cases a one week correction in the market wouldn't be the President's fault. Though, as I mentioned in another thread, this President has seen the four largest one day drops in the DOW's History come on his watch.
Last week's correction was a direct response to his hyperbole towards China.
Is it hyperbole towards China?
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7 hours ago, BubberMiley said:
Tariffs have nothing to do with it?
Why do you call Chuck Schumer a liar? Or you just heard Trump say it, so you thought it must be cool? Lol
I never said that tariffs have nothing to do with anything. Of course they have an impact on the stock market and everything else. The stock market is up by 33% overall. So for one week it took a correction off of that amount. Big deal. It still dwarfs the stock market's performance under Obama.
If you got a 33% raise at work would you focus on the extra taxes you have to pay? No, but you're focusing on a small negative in a sea of positivity regarding employment numbers and stock prices.
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21 hours ago, Wilber said:
It is how local boundaries are engineered by parties to give them an advantage, it has nothing to do with the most populous parts of the country or an electoral college.
That's what I said it was.
It has to do with the electoral college system because high density areas are always full of people in need of social assistance, ie Dem voters.
If you split up the electoral boundaries in a way that has just the right amount of high-density areas in each electoral riding then you can win for the Dems.
If you split up the electoral boundaries in a way that keeps the high-density, low-income areas in some ridings and suburban/rural areas together in other ridings the Republicans win.
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1 hour ago, Wilber said:
Do you know what gerrymandering even is?
Yeah it’s re-configuring electoral boundaries so that you can eek out a win in a bunch of areas and only lose 1 or 2 by a large margin.
Elections will never be perfect, but the electoral college type of system is still better than one where the downtown core of a city gets to control an entire state, or where 4 or 5 cities control an entire country as vast as the USA.
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23 hours ago, marcus said:
They are both different, of course. But the comparison is that they are selfish ideologies that will trample over other people's rights for their own gain. Case in point, their treatment of the Palestinians.
You have a point, where the militia groups and IDF committed actual genocide by driving Palestinians out of their lands after WWII. This is called Nakba by Palestinians, where over 500 Palestinian villages were destroyed and annihilated in what is now Israel. The Palestinians in these villages were either killed, shipped out or they ran for their lives.
Now-a-days, I would disagree with you that Israel's actions are "defensive". There is nothing defensive about seizing and annexing land. Israel continues to do this to this day in order to expand the illegal settlements in Palestinian territories, including in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Their acts are NOT defensive. It's all offensive.
There is no one, besides the Arabs, who are in Mecca. So the parallel you're trying to draw does not make sense. Because the Palestinians have been living in Palestine for many centuries. None of the Jews who immigrated to Palestine just before and after 1900, had have any physical connection to the area, except if you look into a book that is over 2000 years old. The only Jews that have a real connection to the land are the ones who lived in peace, side by side with the Palestinian Muslims and Christians. In fact, before the mass Zionist immigration to Palestine, from mostly Europe, the population of Jews in that region was only around 5% fo the total population.
My comparison, as stated at the beginning, is that they're both selfish ideologies who will trample other people's rights for their own selfish gains. They don't care about the rights of those who don't follow their religion.
Zionism’s goal isn’t to kill or convert everyone. They don’t use mass systemic rape as a means to forced conversion. You’re comparing the desire of a people to return to their homeland, ie .001% of the earth’s surface, to the greatest evil the world has ever known.
The parallel to Mecca makes sense if you think about it. Imagine that a new messiah of a new religion comes along and wipes islam out of that part of the earth. Muslims will never lose their desire to go to Mecca. There would be a strong movement within what was left of the muslim community to get back there. Muslims would not think of that desire as evil. Get it? They committed genocide all over the Middle East and Southern Asia and Southern Europe for as long as they could just to get slaves and other people’s land. Recent genocides include Pakistan in the 40’s, Bangladesh in the 70’s and Syria as recently as 2 years ago. If they committed so much evil in the desire to conquer other people’s land do you think that they would they do any less to get Mecca back?
I think you know that your comment re: “the only connection the Jews have to Israel is a book” is incredibly stupid. Their temples and synagogues are there. They go back about 5,000 years. That shit is important to them. What’s tying the Palestinians to that area Marcus? It’s only about 1% of the Arabian Peninsula. They can go live by Mecca if they want. The answer is that they’re just in refugee camps to foment hatred in people like you.
Israel’s original (pre-‘67) borders were not conducive to successful defence. The country was too narrow, and thus easy to divide. Currently they defend themselves from terrorism as well as they can on a minute-by-minute basis. Do you deny that? Do you think that they could do much less than they are currently doing and still be safe? Do you think that their neighbours won’t commit genocide against them if they get the chance?
When you reply, think about whether or not your response will just boil down to “the Israelis are being far less evil in the defence of Israel than their neighbours were in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Syria.” Think about what will happen to every Jew in Israel if hezbollah, hamas, iran etc get their way..... I stopped being supportive of the Palestinians when I found out about the distant and recent history of those religions, and what “victory” for either side would look like.
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On 12/7/2018 at 1:06 PM, BubberMiley said:
I was talking about this week, not the significant gains it has made since Obama became president.
A one week fluctuation in the stock market is hardly an indictment against the President.
That’s the epitome of a small sample size being used against a data set that’s a couple orders of magnitude larger.
FYI the market is actually down because Trump is standing up to China. Even lyin Chuck Schumer supports Trump’s stance against Chinese intellectual property theft, etc.
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On 12/8/2018 at 7:35 AM, Wilber said:
Gerrymandering enables the tyranny of the minority.
Tyranny lol.
It really would be tyranny, or at least folly, if the entire country was run by the electorate of NYC, LA, Boston, Chicago and a couple other cities. The electoral college format is extremely important. It’s subject to flaws and human trickery but what isn’t? Do you see a bigger problem with the Canadian PM giving away over $1B to CBC and other media outlets?
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On 12/7/2018 at 9:45 AM, BubberMiley said:
I can see why you wouldn't want to include a citation with your data, since you just made it up. Unfortunately, two-thirds of U.S. terrorism can be blamed on right wing extremists. I suppose though that, like with climate change, no objective data will sway your unfounded opinions.
I can’t believe that you would even post a link to such a stupid article. Is graffiti on a car really a terrorist attack? Is that a “1” just like the Pulse night club attack was a “1” in your world? OMG we need to ban spray paint. Save us bubber.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States
There’s the list of terrorist attacks in the US in case you ever get sick of myopic left-wing opinion-based articles or a desire to look at some facts.
The Vegas attack wasn’t even on that list the last time I checked, but that attack was directly on a crowd of people that one would suspect are primarily right wing. There was another attack on a country music venue recently. Seems like you’re 100% wrong again bubber. I doubt you really care though.
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On 12/6/2018 at 8:21 PM, turningrite said:
If he can create enough buzz to force Scheer and the CPC to address controversial topics in order to hold the right and centre-right vote, I believe Bernier's role will be positive. So far, Scheer's approach has been to smile a lot and say very little of real substance. This strategy was tried in the last election by Tom Muclair and look where it got him and his party. Bernier might be the right's only hope to prevent a milquetoast Scheer from fading into the woodwork as Trudeau reads his over-rehearsed speeches, works his social media networks and ramps up his virtue-signalling.
Mulcair was just an angry ass. Trudeau got the angry, stupid liberal votes as well as the unicorn voters.
Scheer might not be far enough to the right to suit some but the middle voters are ripe for the pickings. If Scheer can get all of the right and some of the middle, plus people who want to vote against Trudeau that will be enough.
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18 hours ago, turningrite said:
But without a compelling political alternative and in the absence of major gaffes from this point forward Trudeau's government could easily be re-elected.
The two things that Trudeau has going for him are Jagmeet Singh and Maxime Bernier.
Singh has marginalized the NDP Party, resulting in a concentration of the leftist vote under Trudeau. Bernier is hell-bent on splitting the conservative vote. Both those things bode really well for Trudeau.
I think that a lot of people who were fooled into voting for Trudeau the first time around will do it again, they'll just be like the Trump voters who keep a low profile until they go into the polling booths. But overall support for him is way down, and come election time, when he has to face up to all his major gaffes in politcal debates with Scheer, his support will wither.
People are distracted by Trump right now. The focus is off of Trudeau's stupidity. When the videos start coming up, showcasing all of Trudeau's shortcomings in one neat little package, awareness will eventually overcome girlish infatuation.
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The UN is becoming more and more of a joke the last few years. This attempt at fascist control over the media isn't going to be well-received by actual democracies. Unfortunately, Canada isn't one of them. We're now on the list of countries whose governments have near total control the media thanks to the $1.3 Billion of our tax dollars that Trudeau just doled out.
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1 hour ago, BubberMiley said:
But there is no organization whatsoever. What if all it is is a buzzword and bogeyman derived from Russian Facebook content creators?
I agree that those who advocate and commit violence should never be supported. How do you feel about the fact that right-wing domestic terror is surging and the number of incidents overwhelms any left-wing terror events you speak of? Why do you only worry about the teenagers getting run over by cars in antifa?
That's another load of BS. Just like saying that "white, right wing males are committing more terrorist acts than jihadis". Believe it or not that's a comment that is making it's rounds too.
Antifa and BLM are responsible for all but 1 notable incident in the US over the last 3 years. There were dozens if not hundreds of riots all across the US in that time, even on the Berkeley campus. Just 1 right-wing mob in Charlottesville.
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4 hours ago, BubberMiley said:
I don't recall mentioning CNN. What are you talking about? Are you saying the stock market isn't down?
But if you think that climate change has been proven to be false time and time again, there's really no arguing with delusion. You just have to smile politely and move on to people who live in the real world.
I just assume that certain people watch CNN, MSNBC, etc, based on the types of things they say. Like for example, when they say that the stock market is down when it is actually 33% higher than it has ever been. That's a CCNer type of comment. Not a lot of other people tend to say such ridiculous things, such obvious falsehoods.
https://www.macrotrends.net/1358/dow-jones-industrial-average-last-10-years
There ya go. You just have to look at it, and the info is right there for you to see. No speculation, no guesswork, no denying. Just an actual fact staring you right in the face.
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4 hours ago, BubberMiley said:
Yes, right-wingers like violent protests and then they like to sanctimoniously condemn peaceful protests among left-wingers, like Antifa. It's typical to their hypocrisy on nearly every issue.
Antifa is violent, and you know that.
FYI the protests in France are by people protesting taxes as well as the usual malcontented sort who protest against everything..
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19 hours ago, BubberMiley said:
If you're gullible enough to fall for the Republican line that man-made climate change isn't real, I can see how you got stuck with a fake bridge. Sorry. Not a sucker like you.
You're the one who just said the stock market was down because of something you saw on CNN, when all you had to do was open any newspaper in the world or do a 1 second google search to see how wrong that was, and you're calling me gullible? lmfao.
You believe in all this climate change bs which is proven to be false time and time again. All the predictions made twenty years ago, ten years ago, two years ago... All wrong.
Shortage of water due to overpopulation is a huge problem. The natural warming/cooling cycles of the earth are beyond our control.
Human "carbon emissions" are not one of the main problems that the planet is facing, by a long shot.You're on a wild goose chase.
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Bubber I have a bridge that's high enough to stay above the new water levels from global warming. It's in San Francisco. Just $5M US. Sweet deal. Wanna buy it.
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How big of a deal is it?
It's perfectly legal for Trump to get an NDA signed to protect his family and his company. Should he come out in public and tell the world that he got an NDA signed, or would that defeat the whole purpose of getting an NDA signed? Should he write a cheque to Cohen and write "NDA" on the memo line? Again, not really how it works. Should he draw up his own NDA? How would anyone else in the free world do that? They'd do it through a lawyer. A sleazy Avenatti/Cohen type of lawyer. That's what guys like that are there for.
In order for this to be a campaign violation Mueller needs to prove that the NDA was specifically regarding the campaign, and not for family or business reasons. Even if he does that, it's not a criminal offence, just a civil case. There's nothing there worth getting all hyperbolic about.
Bottom line is Trump had sex with a porn star and a playboy bunny and he tried to hide it. Maybe for family reasons, maybe for business reasons, maybe for political reasons. If that's the worst of his sins then that makes him one of the very best men in Washington.
Bill Clinton was caught influencing Monica Lewinsky to lie in her sworn testimony, trying to get her to file false affidavits, coaching witnesses, he lied to a grand jury. Is he in jail? Did he ever get impeached? That's far more serious than getting an NDA signed by someone who was a consenting adult, which was perfectly legal.
The people at CNN and MSNBC who want you to think this was a big deal are still just as hypocritical as they were the day before they meekly wondered whether or not the should have "believed Bill's legion of accusers".
This is USA politics 101. Entry level stuff. Bill Clinton went to the 808 class, still didn't get impeached.