WestCanMan

There wasn't even any caravan talk before the caravan started up. It just started.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_Canada Here ya go. Advocating genocide is supposed to be illegal. The Prime Minisiter failed to even acknowledge it as unacceptable. You lose again, but you're probably used to that by now. TBH I don't even care about the legality of it, it's far worse that it was made acceptable.

Head in the sand? Get a life boges. You know that everything you say is 100% biased with large helpings of disingenousness and ignorance. Where did Trump ever speak or act out against brown people? The caravan IS the result of the Dems saying over and over again, in many different ways, that the border and legal US citizenship don’t mean squat. Why would they go all that way if they didn’t hear the Dems rolling out the welcome mat? Sanctuary cities, abolish ice, no id for voting, voting rights for illegals, etc, etc. That’s why people are walking thousands of miles. The Dems are championing their cause. It’s pretty hard to argue that, and I’d love to see you make an equally strong argument that Trump is the reason lol. “He’s sending the army to greet us! Yay!”

I will find plenty. The connection to Trudeau was made several posts back. Try to keep up. Refresher - the rush was on for Democrats to politicize these deaths, like all others, and they started openly accusing Trump of being anti-Semitic and used that unsubstantiated allegation as the basis for the claim Trump was the reason for this type of violence hatred. I madeallegations against Dems and Liberals which were entirely supported by well-known and easily referenced facts. You challenged me to support my claim that Trudeau made hate speech legal. I said he that he did something far worse - he made it acceptable by outright refusing to condemn it in it’s worst form.

And did Trump blame Jews for the caravan? Trump openly blamed Democrats for the caravan, never Jews. References to George Soros are not references to Jews as a whole. If you’re not a bigot you should understand that. It’s a little late for CNN et al to be connecting dots after they failed to take responsibility for the shootings and physical attacks on Republicans. They supported all the rioting and looting under Obama’s presidency, then they supported the calls for violence against Trump and the Whitehouse, now they have a nasty mess on their hands.

Where do you have proof that the shooter’s murder spree was because of the caravan?

The whole thing about “Jews are behind the caravan” is a CNN-based attempt to blame Trump for the killings in Pittsburgh. They really need to ramp up division before the mid-terms and it should never surprise anyone when Dems and CNN attempt to divide Americans. You can hate Trump all you want for putting America first (even though that’s technically his JOB) but how do you feel about the Democrats continually sowing division within the country?

There are anti-Semites here, and I will take you up on the challenge of whether or not eyeball makes anti-Semitic comments here when I have more time. The important thing for you to take away from this thread is that Trudeau literally did make hateful and dangerous anti-Semitism in Canada perfectly a-ok. If you can follow: 1) Trudeau is known around Canada and worldwide as an enormous virtue signaller and the condemner of all things that are even slightly off-colour. 2) When a leader, not just a random lone wolf piece of crap but A LEADER in a major religious community in Canada made a call for genocide against Jews, Trudeau did not address it AT ALL. He had to be asked by the leader of the opposition to specifically address it and condemn it and still he sharply refused. So what we have is the world’s foremost condemner of baddies officially taking the stance that holding a hate rally to publicly call for genocide against Jews isn’t that big of a deal. It’s perfectly fine. We all know that legality doesn’t always rise to the level of morality or decency. It was “legal” for the imam to preach hate, and I have no doubt he always has and he always will. It was however, extremely amoral and a threat to our entire value system for that speech to go unchecked, unchallenged. Canada, under Trudeau, bore a stark resemblance to Iran for a while and you should be furious about that.

And who do you see making accurate criticism against Israel? It sure as hell isn’t you. You fail to acknowledge that they’re up to their eyeballs in terrorists. Trudeau’s actions made hate speech ok. Peachy keen. Alllllllright. No big d. Get it? A leader in a religious community cane out and called fir genocide against another religion and Trudeau officially shrugged it off. That’s a huge problem. You’d care about it if it happened to muslims. It didn’t. You don’t. Semantics? You’re busy defending calls for genocide and you’re trying to get me on semantics? Get a grip.

I never heard the comment about the barbed wire, that must be new. I would never call Trump classy, a role model, or a thoughtful speaker, but I don’t think he’s a “dog whistler” either. Again, subtlety isn’t his thing. Dems are the all-time champions of using fear mongering and sowing division to get votes. CNN and the Dems started all this with the Trayvon Martin thing and the Michael Brown thing. CNN saw the gobs of money that they coukd make, the Dems saw the sharp division it created between them and the Republicans. They both saw it as a tool to get the Dems elected. They thought that extreme polarization would provide enough smoke to fool voters into just believing everything they say but luckily for the world, enough Americans saw through it last time at the polls. Right now CNN and the Dems are both doing everything they can to cash in on these dead people in Pittsburgh. It’s utterly pathetic and disgusting to see them scramble to label Trump anti-Semitic, in the face of all logic, just for their own cause. Trump always takes the bait and swings back. He’s a bit overreactive, but right now the entire world is behaving like there’s an overreactive US president.

I never heard the comment about the barbed wire, that must be new. I would never call Trump classy, a role model, or a thoughtful speaker, but I don’t think he’s a “dog whistler” either. Again, subtlety isn’t his thing. Dems are the all-time champions of using fear mongering and sowing division to get votes. CNN and the Dems started all this with the Trayvon Martin thing and the Michael Brown thing. CNN saw the gobs of money that they coukd make, the Dems saw the sharp division it created between them and the Republicans. They both saw it as a tool to get the Dems elected. They thought that extreme polarization would provide enough smoke to fool voters into just believing everything they say but luckily for the world, enough Americans saw through it last time at the polls. Right now CNN and the Dems are both doing everything they can to cash in on these dead people in Pittsburgh. It’s utterly pathetic and disgusting to see them scramble to label Trump anti-Semitic, in the face of all logic, just for their own cause. Trump always takes the bait and swings back. He’s a bit overreactive, but right now the entire world is behaving like there’s an overreactive US president.

Critism against Jews/Israel that’s inaccurate with a hateful bias is anti Semitic. Trudeau made hate speech against Jews not just legal, but he normalized it by refusing to denounce a call for genocide against them. Obama wasn’t killing “muslims”, he was killing terrorists. I thought that there was supposed to be a very big difference? Trump isn’t ramping up any racist rhetoric, that’s CNN. All they talk about is race. It’s sickening. Trump is pro-American. That shouldn’t be surprising for a US President, but it’s a dramatic turnaround from the last administration where the First Lady was on record saying “for the second time in my adult life I was proud to be an American.”

Lefties openly talk about genocide and violence against Jews. Lefty news, like CNN, doesn't speak out against it. So according to lefties, it's a valid discussion. Lefty news will never even hold Obama's feet to the fire for secretly associating with people like Farrakhan who openly discuss "reasons for hating, fearing or killing Jews". Then after all the division that Democrats have sown over the past 4 years, lefties blame this killing spree on Trump, based on their unsubstantiated and stupid beliefs. Everyone who knows anything about Trump knows that he supports Israel (Jewish) and that his son-in-law and grandkids are Jews. He's never said a bad word about Jews, he doesn't sow division within the country.

There were 99 non-islamic terror attacks, but not all of them were white. The beltway attacks (17) and the 7 police in 2016 and the earlier 4 for sure. So at least 28 non-whites. Maybe more. I'll just say 28 total for the sake of argument. So the amended list is: 3,097 + 28 = 3,125 to 99 - 28 = 71. 3,125 non-whites to 71 whites. Just so this doesn't go off-track, let's just remember that I wasn't the one who turned this into discussion about race. It's entirely stupid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States Since the year 2,000, major islamic terrorist attacks include but are not limited to: - Fort Hood (13), - Boston (5), - San Bernadino (14), - the New York truck attack (8), - Chatanooga (5), - Beltway sniper attacks (17) for starters. That's 62 dead right there. (MUSLIM 62) 101 if you include Pulse (49). (MUSLIM 49) That's not counting 2,977 from the WTC. (MUSLIM 2,977) Aside from the aforementioned attacks, there were 57 people killed in what were confirmed terrorist attacks. Of the other 57 killed: - 38 of them were by by "white men" who you might consider "right wing". (RIGHT 38) - 3 were unsolved (unknown) - 9 of the 58 were by muslims (MUSLIM 9) - 4 of them were by a black man killing police officers. (LEFT 4) - I'm not sure what the other 3 were, I'm not bothering to go down the list again. (idgaf) This list doesn't include the 5 policemen who were murdered by the Obama-era BLM attack in Dallas. There were 2 more Killed by BLM in NYC around the same time, plus a spate of police murders in Obama's presidency, several of which would qualify as terrorism as well. I'm going to include those 7 because they are confirmed BLM violence. The wiki list doesn't include the Vegas attack that killed approximately 50 people, which would easily be attributed to leftists as well, seeing as it targeted people who were majority white Republican/NRA types. That's going on the lib list as well. Not sure why so may lefty type terrorist attacks aren't included on wiki's list, but I'm counting them all. So here are 57 attacks blamed squarely on leftists. I'm adding the 4 killed by the black man from the prior list. (LEFT 57) Here's my tally. Feel free to do your own, using whatever list you want, but there's not much room to argue with wiki or with the 57 murders I added that are well-known and which easily qualify as leftist terrorist attacks. Since 2,000 White, "Right Wing" terrorism: 38 Leftists Terrorism: 4 + 57 = 61 Muslim Terrorism: 62 + 49 + 2,977 + 9 = 3,097 I guess the whole "dangerous right-wing terrorists" theory is complete BS. You can add the Jews who were just killed in Pennsylvania to the "RWR" list if you want. Not much difference. They're still lagging way behind.

Makes sense I guess, since it's the majority of men. It's also worth noting that the adult muslim men who account for less than 1% of the population are a very close second.

I agree 100%. I'm perfectly aware that Kaepernick shouldn't be allowed to protest at his place of work, but his supporters aren't.

That “right wing terrorism” stat going around is bogus. People choose what fits within their personal/political viewpoint of what terrorism is and then go from there with a biased scoresheet that doesn’t factor in the seriousness of the attack. For example, when guy yells at a bunch of people in a synagogue that shouldn’t count as “1” just the same as when a guy yells islamic profanity and blows up kids outside an Arianna Grande concert counts as “1”. If you think of all the things that we would call actual terrorist attacks, where a person or persons are killed, it’s almost all islamic or left wing. Van attacks, bomb attacks, ak-47 attacks and even the attack on the country music fans in vegas (attack on a group that would certainly be characterized as majority Republican/NRA supporters - people on the “right wing”). What else that has happened in North America compared to that list?

The pro-Kaepernick here crowd here would have a huge beef with him not being able to park that van wherever he wants. After all, political viewpoints and serious threats against high profile politicians are sacrosanct under freedom of speech laws, right? Even in the workplace.

Trudeau senior was more arrogant than Trump, and that's hard to do. He was a leader for sure, but he was just taking the country in the wrong direction.

CNN stooges, listen up. 1) They say that "there's dog-whistling going on" - that's another way of saying "We don't even have a little bit of proof of what we are telling you. We're just taking the smallest things imaginable and blowing them way out of proportion." 2) They say "Trump colluded with the Russians" over and over again for 2 years, and to this second there's not even one single solitary shred of proof of that, whatsoever. Do you hold them even slightly accountable for the truth? 3) Now they say he's an anti-Semite when he's literally surrounded by Jews, inside his family and out. On CNN they don't even talk about serious anti-Semitic vitriol coming from leaders within the Democrat community who are cozy with Keith Ellison and Barack Obama, but they reference Trump somehow dog-whistling? You gobble that up like a hungry bulldog slobbering up some warm barf? 4) Most of their "juicy dirt" on trump comes from "anonymous sources". No one is "on the record" saying anything troubling. But it's TOTALLY NEWSWORTHY to you guys. 5) On CNN they say he constantly lies, then they reference "crowd size" and "rain during his inauguration speech"..... Is that seriously what they back that up with? Trump has a laundry list of election promises that he's living up to. Those are "his promises" of record. 6) There are prominent Dems going around saying "don't be civil", "get in their faces", "they're hurting our children", "tell them they're not welcome", and they call severed heads & threats of bombing the whitehouse or killing the President "free speech" (it meets the dictionary definition of sedition), and then they go apoplectic when people refer to the angry mobs of people (the very ones that they themselves whipped into a frenzy.....) "mobs". After all that, when Republicans get shot, they blame gun control. Republicans get ribs broken in a blindside attack, not even newsworthy. Trump's family gets white podwer hoaxed, no big d. All of a sudden there's a Dem bomb threat and it's "FREAKOUT TIME!!!!!!!!" They say "Their rhetoric is way out of control!!!!!!!!!!!! It's causing issues!". I call it hypocrisy of the highest order, you guys say "Yummmm, more warm barf." So basically you value unsubstantiated/wild/ridiculous accusations, anonymous sources, people who incite mob activity, liars and hypocrites? Honestly, just sit back for a second and think about how many times you got hoodwinked by major stories like Russian collusion or the legend of the Caerbannock Kavanaugh, but you never for a second thought about how that affected the credibility of your vaunted " news sources". They're the same people who casually tell you that that top-level FBI firings aren't a news story. The guy on this site who said that "Trump's a liar - it actually rained during his inauguration speech" because his news sources told him so, but refused to watch the video of it not raining, is like the poster boy for Demmies. What a crowd. It's so hard to believe that in this day and age, with information so readily available, people with the ability to read and write would keep getting their news from a source with a track record of doing nothing but lying about or everything. It would be one thing if their lies even made sense, but when they turn a terrorist truck rampage into a gun control issue, I actually have to admire their mind-control abilities and feel a bit sorry for you.

Here's the breakdown for you, in case you missed everything since 2015. The USA was extremely divided in 2015 and 2016. There were riots, lootings and wide scale arson in several major cities for months at a time. Hatred of the police was rampant, and race was at the forefront of every single conversation. The President at the time didn't say anything at all to stem the tide. FFWD to 2017: Only a complete idiot would believe that the division in the USA got worse after the inauguration. I don't recall any buildings on fire since Trump was elected, aside from the ones lit up by the fascist demmies of Berkeley when they protested against free (and non-hate) speech. FFWD to 2018: Some people were killed in a Synagogue. CNN needed to turn it into a Trump hatefest before the 2018 mid-term elections, like they do with every story, including the weather of all things. So they just went out and told their moronic viewers that Trump is an Anti-Semite and that caused the killings. Here are some facts for you: Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, is a Jew. Trump's daughter got married in a Jewish ceremony, and his grandkids are Jews. Benjamin Netanyahu and Donald Trump are allied far more tightly than Trump and Trudeau are. Do these facts allow much room for the anti-Semitic theory? What "facts" does CNN present indicating that Trump is an anti-Semite? (insert crickets sound-effect here.....) Re: your anti-Semitic violence stat: Did CNN call Obama an anti-Semite In 2017 when pictures came out of him smiling with America's foremost anti-Semite - Louis Farrakhan? The USA allowed tens of thousands of Syrian migrants in 2016. Then there was a spike in anti-Semitic violence right after those two things and you assume that it's Trump's fault? Go fish. 2018 North America. Figure it out.

It's good that you're asking questions.

I do value free speech guys and gals, but honestly, I still think that there has to be a serious response to blatantly evil haters within our society. There’s no shortage of people dumb enough to get sucked in by hatred and especially by fear mongering.

Go sit down before you read this Argus. I just clicked like on one of your posts. You might want to take two Aspirin and call your doctor if you’re feeling cardiac-ish.