WestCanMan

BS eyeball. You have no clue what's going on. The Republicans said there was a crisis at the border months ago, and they were correct. As soon as they said it the Dems instantly took the opposite position. Get it? I've always known that. The border is underfunded six ways from Sunday, and inhumanity in the detention centers is one of many symptoms of that problem. That inhumanity is not a symptom of a racist government that's actively enlisting evil border guards who force people to drink from toilets. Get it? As long as the Dems are calling for more illegal immigration then the "inhumanity" at the border will always exist. The US could never be set up to properly deal with tens of thousands of illegal border crossings a month. But get this, it's so simple that every other human on earth understands it except for you: AOC IS LYING WHEN SHE SAYS THAT PEOPLE ARE BEING FORCED TO DRINK FROM TOILETS. ONLY REALLY REALLY STUPID BELIEVE THAT BORDER GUARDS FORCED WOMEN TO DRINK FROM TOILETS WITH A CONGRESSWOMAN STANDING RIGHT THERE. ON THE BRIGHT SIDE, YOU'RE PART OF A VERY EXCLUSIVE CLUB. I'm not upset that the Republicans used the word inhumanity. I'm explaining to you that what CATO said and what AOC said don't back each other up, at all. It seems like you will never get your brain around that. Shocker.

Under normal circumstances I'd agree, but we're talking about a person whose career is built around being a SJW. Now it turns out that the people whom she looks down on as "oppressors" were much finer people than her own ancestors.

A person's skin colour doesn't offer any sort of proof as to whether or not their ancestors were slave owners.

If you had some evidence of that then no doubt you would have thrown down. This is just another unsubstantiated accusation from a leftist (untrue as usual). Nothing new to see here.

Objective? I just disproved that entirely. Start again.

Such a trash post. Why should I go to ancestry.com and create a paid account just because you don't trust Kamala Harris's own father just to suit you? He has no reason to lie just to make his own family look bad. And FYI Harris's ancestry doesn't have to be 100% verified fact in order for this to be a story worth reporting on. Here's athought Bubber: try taking the set of standards that you're trying to impose on me and now use them on your Dem heroes, the FBI and CNN. They were stating UNEQUIVOCALLY for over two years that they HAD EVIDENCE that Trump colluded with Russia. Now we all know that not even the FBI has evidence that Trump colluded with Russia. We just all know that Hillary colluded with Russia. You stick up for your people when they're caught in an outright lie and you make unsubstantiated accusations against people who you know are not lying.

1) You're quoting the Minister of Propaganda from the country where they arrest women for taking off their own hijabs. That's good stuff, for a political satire website. That's not what this is.... 2) If sanctions were really terrorist acts then Iran would have sanctions against everybody, 3) Since when has "compliance with international law" been a concern for Iran? Is openly advocating genocide in compliance with international law?

FWIW I didn't chop out so much because it wasn't worth reading or responding to. It's just a forum rule not to use huge quotes when replying so I had to trim it a bit. I just have a quick sec here but I though that I'd quickly just chime in with an example of how much our judges can even be trusted to undertsand what does and doesn't constitute a hate crime: https://calgaryherald.com/news/crime/indigenous-woman-yells-i-hate-white-people-before-punching-white-woman-but-its-not-a-hate-crime-judge-rules

For the last time. Two different reasons why conditions are inhumane. 1) As per AOC and her toadies - inhumane conditions exist because there's a racist government conspiracy creating "concentration camps" and finding evil border guards who force people to drink from the toilet. 2)) As per CATO and everyone with half a brain, inhumanity due to overcrowding and lack of funding, both of which are functions of moronic Democrat policies. So CATO is not saying that people were forced to drink out of toilets. You find me the quote if you think it exists eyeball. And if it's true then there should be widespread Hep A, E-coli and a whole host of other sicknesses present in detention centers. #2 does not substantiate #1. People are not "being forced to drink from toilets". Period. Anyone who is stupid enough to believe that border guards forced women in detention centers to drink from toilets while there was a Dem Congresswoman there is stupid enough to believe literally anything. Are you going to say that it is your sincere belief that AOC saw women being forced to drink from toilets? Or can you acknowledge that you know she is a liar? It's one or the other.

You're alt-left. Anyone who supports AOC is closer to radical leftist than centrist.

Wrong. Corporations within the US do not set foreign policy. If Ford and Apple boycott a country that is almost the same as an entire country boycotting Israel. Also, companies within the US are not allowed to boycott minorities either. Corporations within the US do not set foreign policy. If the BDS movement took a responsible, unbiased position they might get some respect. You're out in left field. You're comparing a country that just blatantly attacked neighbouring countries and forced citizens into slave labour and committed genocide against 7M people to a country that gained ground when they were attacked by foreign countries and then gave most of it back, and that obviously never committed genocide. I encourage you to work on your reading comprehension.

I never said that they were a left wing shill, I said that their quote didn't substantiate AOC's claims that people were being forced to drink out of toilets or that they were concentration camps. Go back and read it all again. Overcrowding isn't intentional inhumanity. It's not like forcing people to drink out of toilets. The detention centers aren't like the places that Americans associate with "concentration camps". Overcrowding is a function of Democrats refusing to increase funding for the border along with constantly encouraging people to come into the country illegally, obstructing attempts at border walls, creating sanctuary cities, banning law enforcement officers from cooperating with ice officials, etc. Try to answer a question honestly for once.

Riiiight. So you won't even vouch for your news sources because you know that they are hyper-politicized left-wing crackheads like "the network which shall remain unnamed".

She said: For your edification: Those are two sentences, said back to back, which were being used to justify/validate the BDS movement. The statement made in the first sentence is predicated on the example provided in the second sentence. Sentence 1) "The right to boycott is deeply rooted in the fabric of our country.” That's a completely valid statement which no one would argue against. Sentence 2) “Americans boycotted Nazi Germany in response to dehumanization, imprisonment, and genocide of Jewish people.” That's an actual example of a boycott, and it's the truth. So she's using that statement and that example to make the case that boycotting products/companies/countries is justified under certain conditions. That's totally valid. But she's using an example that does not apply at all to the BDS movement. Let's talk about Johnny, who lives in Florida. He's 18 now. He once threw a ping pong ball at his mom in a fit of anger, and he is accused of pushing a girl in a line up for freezies at his school. He was also accused of grabbing Chelsea's butt and his girlfriend Laura said that he reached into her top when they were making out, and that she didn't say he could go that far. While talking about Johnny's case, the local DA who just happens to be named WC Mann, says: "The death penalty is still legal in several States in America and Florida is one of them. Ted Bundy lived in Florida and was given the death penalty for his serial attacks on women." By your logic, WC Mann's statement is right on point.

So can you tell me the difference then GH? Is Israel a lot like Nazi Germany? Does the fact that America boycotted them have much to do with a boycott of Israel? Where's the equivalency? I could say "The US carpet bombed cities in Germany in response to their attacks against other European countries. The Palestinians have been launching rocket and mortar attacks on Israel now for decades." Did I just make the case for the US to start dropping bombs? Should America completely boycott Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Yemen, Qatar, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Oman, Syria...? Good talk GH. As usual.

So who do you watch? Can you name one credible reporter? Someone who you feel tells the truth on a consistent basis?

https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/top-ten/ Page 1 Week of July 1, 2019 RANK PROGRAM NETWORK RATING VIEWERS (000) 1 SPECIAL RPT W/BRET BAIER FOX NEWS CHANNEL 2.9 4,872 2 TUCKER CARLSON TONIGHT FOX NEWS CHANNEL 2.1 3,200 3 SPECIAL RPT W/BRET BAIER FOX NEWS CHANNEL 2 3,304 4 HANNITY FOX NEWS CHANNEL 2 2,964 5 HANNITY FOX NEWS CHANNEL 1.9 2,830 6 TUCKER CARLSON TONIGHT FOX NEWS CHANNEL 1.9 2,816 7 TUCKER CARLSON SPECIAL FOX NEWS CHANNEL 1.7 2,722 8 RACHEL MADDOW SHOW MSNBC 1.7 2,468 9 FIVE, THE FOX NEWS CHANNEL 1.7 2,434 10 RACHEL MADDOW SHOW MSNBC 1.7 2,371 To be honest, I'm surprised to see Tucker Carlson at the top. I can't even watch his show. Hannity is ok once/week but it can get to be too much, and he has some regular guests I can't stand, like Mark Levin. Total douche. The Five is an excellent show. Greg Gutfeld is brilliant. Jesse Watters is actually a really knowledgeable guy. Ellen Companga and Geraldo Rivera are awesome. You'll learn a lot if you watch The Five eyeball. You need to step away from the firehose of stupidity over at CNN. FWIW there's a tall redheaded woman on The Five sometimes, Dagan or something is her name, I don't usually even watch if she's there. Even if she says something that you agree with completely you'll hate yourself for it. She has the most negative persona ever.

How long ago did half of the posters here know that there was no collusion between Trump and Russia? How long ago did Van Jones say that Russian collusion was "a big nothingburger"? Why was he only right about it that one time, when he was off-air, and the on-air story has been so entirely different this whole time? Why aren't they having a fit, wondering how they were 100% wrong for the last 2+ years? Shouldn't they be apologizing profusely to America for getting it 100% wrong, 60 times a day for 2 plus years? Now their story is "Trump needs to be impeached for trying to get a tool like Mueller fired!" LMAO, how the hell is that a thing? Did you see how much of an incompetent boob he was yesterday? It's like he has dementia. I honestly wouldn't let him run a taco stand, let alone a government agency. Batshit crazy is seeing all kinds of evidence day after day and pretending not to notice, or even worse, regurgitating the things you see there. Can you honestly say that you've never caught CNN in a lie? I'd love for you to say that you've watched an hour straight of CNN before and didn't catch them on a single lie. I didn't need someone to tell me CNN was lying to me, I figured it out as soon as I started watching more than 5 minutes of it a month.

You're correct when you say that they're different. The font is a lot bigger, for one thing, but that's the main difference.

Don't you think it's pretty crazy that there's a mainstream news network out there that is so deliberately misleading 24/7? I'm sure that a lot of people who were going around parroting the Dems'/CNN's collusion theory and their Dr Ford allegations, etc are feeling pretty foolish right about now. My favourite is "walls are racist" lol. I hope someone says those words to my face one day. I don't even know what I'll do but I can't promise I won't piss my pants.

It's just more proof that they get their marching orders directly from CNN.

The whole Russian Collusion fiasco is disgusting, and rightfully cost several top FBI officials their positions within the org and even their jobs and pension. Sadly, the crooked Dems at the top who have been forcing this thing through, such as Hillary, Schiff, Nadler etc, are not losing a thing. They won't lose their pensions and they're not even losing credibility with a large percentage of the voting population because the MSM is backing them so hard. Honestly, they should be up on stage issuing America a huge apology for repeatedly saying, in no uncertain terms, "it is clear that Trump has colluded with Russia to influence the outcome of the election" for 3 full years, dozens of times per day. Yet somehow they're still on the attack, dialling their claims back from "Trump colluded" to "Trump tried to get a guy fired for doing a whole host of things which were, with the clear benefit of hindsight, illegal, immoral and unethical". I say that because of how many times they kept going to the FISA court to get renewals, how they constantly framed unrelated arrests as "related to Russian collusion" even though they were about tax returns from the '90's, etc, how they used unrelated charges to coerce Trump associates into testifying against him, how they decided not to arrest people who were on their side and committed crimes because it would detract from the investigation, etc. If you put a frog in cold water you can turn up the heat til he dies, but if you put it in hot water he jumps out.... That's the best analogy for this. People who jumped on the collusion bandwagon at the outset (when the water was cold) saw all the unrelated arrests and subsequent squeeze plays as a necessary evil. They still talk about these Trump associate arrests as being "related to collusion" but they all know full-well that none of them were related to collusion at all. They overlooked Hillary's own Russian collusion as a necessary evil. They overlooked all the obvious bias from people like Strzok and Page because they weren't even informed of it by left wing news and they don't believe it when they hear it from "right wingers from helllll!!!!!". They overlooked the fact that people who were against Trump and are known to have committed serious crimes during the investigation went completely unpunished, while Trump associates who committed lesser crimes went to jail. They now know, with the benefit of hindsight, that no evidence of collusion was ever found, so there was no reason for the FISA warrant to have ever been re-issued, but they don't care that the FISA court was lied to. That's a far more serious crime than Trump's supposed obstruction. If the Trump-haters just came on the scene now and looked back, without bias, they would instantly (feel the hot water) see the incredible level of bias and corruption and the absurdity of it all. Instead, they're trapped defending their original opinions, unable to take a serious look at this because it involves a massive loss of face.

Congrats on your one tiny victory. Too bad that you've been on the losing side of every other debate that you've ever been in.

I think you should acknowledge the fact that I directly answer all of your questions while you just dodge and ignore direct questions that you don't like, for starters. Re: this specific point, you're right, I did say that "Trump stopped their ballistic missile tests". You choose to interpret that as me saying that he stopped them all permanently, which isn't an unreasonable interpretation, but it's not what I was actually referring to, as I told you above. That should all be really easy for you to understand. If you recall, Kim was aggressively testing missiles and bragging about what they were going to do to the US and other countries with them, and he was threatening to launch one by Guam. TRUMP STOPPED HIM COLD. PERIOD. HE DIDN'T LAUNCH BY GUAM AND HE STOPPED WITH THE THREATS AND LONG-RANGE ICBM TESTS. HE DIDN'T TEST ANYTHING FOR 522 DAYS. You can take credit for making the distinction that i should have been more specific if you want, congrats, but you're completely hung up on semantics because, as usual, you're just wrong about everything of consequence.

Just learn to read GH.