MiddleClassCentrist

The government could subsidize them instead of expecting people to run them out of the good of their hearts. Why is this expected of teachers and not the general public? I'd welcome anyone to run a program at a local school... Could offer way more if everyone was expected to create the extra curricular experience.

I was playing diablo 3. The loading diablo image has 2 negative image penises purposefully put into it. Once seen, was unable to unsee. http://postimage.org/image/88zdkoxmx/

... exactly everything that is wrong with the patent system. You shouldn't be able patent a general idea to broadly... it needs to be specific.

I know someone who ended up with a Galaxy Nexus because it could: Text, Call, Browse Web, Download Apps, Play Games (ETC, most of what anyone does) and it was free on the plan vs the expensive iPhone option.

That's usually a bunch of BS. Most of the students who make the teams, play on the same teams outside of school. That's why they make the teams, they have a considerable amount of practice over others. Are you going to head down to your local school and ask what programs you can offer or are you just going to be a hypocrite and expect teachers to run them for free?

Personally, I liked all of my teachers. Sure, I disagreed with somethings and a few of the women were a bit menopausal because of it being that time in their life but, I got along with pretty much all of my teachers. Sure, that high school grad might be able to be able to do a good job but you open up the field the the plethora of high school grads who would do a bad job and a more volatile market where teachers teach for 2 years and leave.

Fair is fair. Let's be reasonable here, coaching is not part of the job and clubs are not part of the job. Teachers are allowed to stop doing voluntary tasks when they feel unappreciated and attacked. Teaching is a full time job on its own. No one demands that everyone else coach teams when they get home from work... Note: The unions haven't mandated any job action. They have said that teachers may make a choice to reduce their involvement because they are feeling attacked by the public and may feel under appreciated for what they really do . And rightly so seeing the rhetoric of how little teachers do spewed on this thread over and over.

OH SHIZ https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.suckga.iLauncher2&feature=related_apps#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEwOSwibmV0LnN1Y2tnYS5pTGF1bmNoZXIyIl0. Billion dollar lawsuit incoming poor chap who designed an iLook alike UI.

It's anywhere from 3.9%-5.5% raise to the under 40% of teachers who are not at the top of the grid. Only a brand new teacher at the bottom would get a 5.5% increase (Note the clear misinformation by the minister). No grid increases to over 60% of the teaching workforce. The Catholic agreement still lets those young 40% of teachers to climb the grid, albeit pushed back by half a year and requires 3 unpaid days... which could be any of the 6 during the entire year. There is no need for legislation since the legislation is the Catholic deal that INCLUDES 75% of those increases anyway. If he really wants to save that money, lock em out. Keep in mind, the purpose of the grid is already to make teachers cost less. Teachers mostly have 12 year grids and start well below police officers, nurses, fire fighters. Teachers start at 48 or 52k depending on qualifications and end at 80-94k depending on qualifications. Registered Nurses start at 58k, have an 8 year grid up to 81k and can make well over 100k with overtime. This bill does not just target teachers. It targets people who are making less than 35k/year as an educational assistant toileting kids who can't go to the bathroom themselves. It targets any worker in the education sector in a union... not just Teachers. Contracts are much more complex than simple wages and benefits. And these concessions have impacts on other areas where teachers still need to discuss further with the school board. For example, How is bereavement, paternity, and family illness going into 10 sick days, something that other professionals get additional days above their sick days for... for example. It's not just the unions. It's the School boards. Even the Catholic System that AGREED to the MoU only has 3 boards signed on. 3/72. total school boards. 4% of all boards. I don't believe there has EVER been a deal signed before the old one ended in the education system, and it's rare to happen in other industries as well. Teachers are agreeing to concessions, make no mistake about it. They don't want their right to bargain a slightly alternative deal with the similar savings taken away. They don't like the government ignoring proposals to include a 2 year wage freeze (How often does a union even try to negotiate a wage freeze, Secondary Teachers did.)

"We have always been shameless about stealing great ideas" - Steve Jobs They have always been worse than Microsoft, they are just better at hiding it. If anything the recent patent ruling pushes smartphones toward Windows 8 and away from Android, a travesty in the tech world.

The have a constitutional right to bargain their concessions. You sound like Laurel Broten, BTW. "You don't get a raise for sitting at home all summer" - Laurel

Again, that gets tricky. Because you don't just want to pay the low-end or average. You want to pay an above average rate to get above average people. I wouldn't go into teaching because I'd make less and the hours aren't flexible. I can tell my boss that I have an appointment and I'll need to come in 2 hours late but, stay an extra two hours to make up for it. It's difficult to measure the value of that convenience. Also, english teachers have a very difficult subject to teach. Mostly because of the enormous amount of marking and the kids don't want to be there. History is worth nothing. Phys Ed teachers would get about 35k... but then we'd have to pay them to coach teams in this world because no one gives their time for free... (unless you are a current public sector teacher). Now, if I ever decided to become a teacher I'd benefit because Computer Engineers are harder to come by in the classroom and they make good money as they progress through the chain. To be honest, I have toyed with the market realities concept for teacher wages on my own but, effort and difficulty of job don't get rewarded. Phys Ed is piss easy and if we followed the route of the states, they'd get paid more for coaching than teaching. But essentially, phys ed is worthless.

But, most don't. Most only hire new teachers for like 35k/year to 45k/year, salary caps out around 60k unless you get into an elite school where the extraordinarily privileged children go. That's cheap for a skilled profession. The funny thing about education in the private sector. The less difficult your job is, the more you are paid. Brats that don't want to be at school vs someone who will get their arse kicked because their parents are spending extra money. Private schools now are cushy places to work. No effort required. Tell the kids to do work and they do it. Their parents are pissed if they waste money. Assign all kids a grade of A- or higher and the parents think they are getting what they paid for.

You right wing types are nuts. PD days equivalent to holidays? Are you kidding me? Sitting in meetings and workshops? Do lawyers have infinite vacation time because a meeting is a holiday? crazy. You can include benefits but, 3 months holidays is pushing it. They aren't actually holidays either. It's time off. They don't get 4% vacation pay like everyone else. They don't get paid for that time. They pay is calculated based on class/prep time. Some boards have negotiated to get the pay spread over the summer.

Take em or lose em'. If you get paid sick days, you either take them or lose them. Same thing happens in the private sector. Now, teachers aren't even allowed to call in for an unpaid absence. Keep that in mind, you can't run a business or anything else if you are a business teacher because you can't take an emergency day to manage it EVEN IF IT COSTS THE BOARD NOTHING. It's the way it works in the private sector. You are legally entitled to 10 days (unpaid) a year according to employment standards act.

What the Government conveniently avoids telling you is that LABOUR LAWS provide that if a deal is not reached by the end of a contract, then the previous deal continues but only until a new one is reached. After something like 3 weeks of no deal being reached, a deal could be imposed upon the employees. If they didn't want to pay teachers, they could lock them out. The costs are mindnumbingly small to be labelled a crisis. The need for legislation is absent, there is no crisis. The legislation is already retroactive. Especially legislation that says the government is above the constitution.

Sounds like it would cost more than public education. Add required profit. Add Headmasters making 300k/year at each school... Decrease cost efficiency by increasing number of schools. Take a look, very very few private schools offer a year of schooling for less than it costs the province to educate students in the public school system. (Public Scholl is <8000 per student last I checked)

It's a problem with government and media for teacher perception. Unionised teachers overseas still have respect. When the government labels them "Enemy" and starts slandering them publicly "You don't just sit around all summer and expect a raise" to make them look bad... that is where public respect is lost. Teachers are the enemy. I think the power of teacher unions has been grossly over estimated. Yeah, they have money to make broadcasts but, teachers only make up something like 1% of Ontarians. Do teachers deserve to pay for Dalton's mismanagement? Maybe. They did support him. But they don't deserve to pay for corporate tax decreases while even the federal conservatives have started taking notice at the money being held. I'm in support of a wage freeze but, Dalton needs to show that the entire government system, including subsidies to healthy businesses and corporate taxes, need to be looked at to get us out of this hole... Cherry picking teachers can't solve this. There is a system set up to deal with collective agreements. Play by the rules. If you want to force a tough deal on teachers, lock them out.

A City TV poll had a 55% disagreement. Which in my opinion is low since conservative supporters pretty much want to see teachers paid in dirt. Anti-teacher is pretty much part of the right wing ideology. McGuinty has been waging a war of misinformation. There is a process for him to follow, he just doesn't like it because it doesn't win votes. Don't want wages to roll over? Lockout teachers. The unions tried to negotiate, the Liberals wanted no part in it. "These are the parameters, accept them" is not collective bargaining. If the liberals said "We need to save X dollars a year, lets do this" the unions would help find money, especially wasted money in administration, to save. But again, if McGuinty put a number he wanted to cut from education, that wouldn't win votes either. The fact that this legislation says that McGuinty can't be challenged by the constitution/court/ontario labour laws is what concerns me. No government is above the constitution.

Samsung should just stop licensing their patents to Apple. End game?

Considering like only 3 boards officially signed... I don't think that it is much of a problem. But that was the Catholic plan to attack the public system dodging the long haul battle. It's in their unions interest to take more public money... the Catholic board spends more per student then the public board in wasted money on new schools while old public schools operate at a fraction of capacity. The fact that I hear Catholic advertisements paid with public dollars to get students to their schools tells me that this system is exceptionally broken.

... That's a lie. Average salary is above 70k. Ontario median teacher pay was in line with most other provinces.

"History has shown there has yet to be a company that has won the hearts and minds of consumers and achieved continuous growth when its primary means to competition has been the outright abuse of patent law, not the pursuit of innovation." - Samsung Apple is a company I want to see crash because of their actions to push planned obsolescence, restrict use of technology for corporate gain, and attack anyone who does something better. The sad part is they have a religious following of twits who can't see past glossy surfaces to see what they are are actually supporting. What gets on my nerves the most in Ontario are the Apple zombies who slander RIM day and night to justify their religious indoctrination.

Ok. But there are no specifications for the degree of roundedness... If you copy exactly, get fined. If you mimic similarly, there should be NO PENALTY.

Apple is currently in a world wide legal battle to destroy competitors through litigation. With rulings against Samsung for extremely vague and generic patents like - White color - Black color - Rounded Corners How can we expect a fair marketplace for technology? Apple itself has derived itself from stolen/copied material. - Apple was incompetent at making an operating system, so they used Unix (Free BSD) for OS10 and later - Their original graphical computer originated from Xerox "We have always been shameless about stealing great ideas." - Steve Jobs Here's a link with more detailed information on Apple's patent win, brought to you by a jury of idiots. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444358404577609810658082898.html To make a point, a tech show had a contest "Has Apple Really Ever Invented Anything?" where users had to submit Apple inventions that a) Were not created by the genius Steve Wozniak and B ) Were not software. They really have to stretch some submissions to give people ballots in the draw.