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Unfortunately, not the case. Employers can, under certain conditions, employ TFW's for less than minimum wage: https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-social-development/services/foreign-workers/median-wage/low/requirements.html#h2.5

Oh ffs. Nobody's invading us. Get a grip. And yes, we should be ashamed, and correct the substandard living conditions in Indigenous communities.

Just like Albertans vote for their own self interests in keeping billions in fossil fuel subsidies to keep flowing from the rest of us to them. Lots and lots!

Exactly wrong, in my opinion: A majority Liberal or Conservative government will continue to avoid/delay addressing emissions in favour of revenues from fossil fuels. A minority is needed with Greens & NDP holding enough power to keep pushing Libs/Cons hard and forcing them go scale down fossil fuel production and scale up renewables.

The people opposing white supremacists, anti-fascists opposed to fascism, represent most Canadians. White supremacists don't represent any voices that anyone wants to hear. No one goes to public rallies to listen to white supremacists. Saying it doesn't make it true, and you've provided no evidence yet. Bernier enables and supports white supremacists, for their votes, and who's to say he isn't? It would be interesting to see who does go inside to hear Maxime Bernier. At $50pp, it's an expensive gig, so the usual ragtag white supremacist will likely be hanging outside harassing Mohawk students of colour & LGBTQ+ people, yelling slurs and insults as usual. Manners and decency for living in civil society are not their forte. 'Inciting and promoting hatred against identifiable groups of people' is a crime in Canada. https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-319.html I get your hatred for 'Antifa', because you just don't win when they're around: You can't get away with harassing and assaulting Muslims and LGBTQ+ people. You don't win ever, anyway, because you're racist bigots and nobody wants to hear you, everyone drowns you out and chases you away. There is no public tolerance for hate speech in public spaces. Your problem isn't Antifa: Your problem is that NOBODY wants to hear what white supremacists have to say. And white supremacists have no integrity either: You try to water down your bigotry for public consumption and don't even have the courage to publicly state what you really stand for ... because if you did, it would be a criminal act.

Nobody goes to listen to white supremacists.

No one goes to public hate rallies to listen to the white nationalist haters. A lot of people go to make them feel unwelcome, drown them out, because hate in public spaces is unacceptable to most community members. It's not acceptable for children to be exposed to racial hatred, and unacceptable for targeted communities to have to be exposed to such hatred in public spaces, limiting their freedom of access, movement and comfort in public areas of their own community. Not illegal perhaps, but unacceptable to most people, and we are free to express that. If you can provide evidence of public hate rallies with a big adoring audience, please provide links. But really, it hasn't happened in Canada. A few 'nouns' of Odin in leathers and boots, ready and seething to stomp people is not an adoring crowd. They are always far outnumbered by normal, decent people. My, such violent imagery! White nationalists do devolve into threat and violence so easily. See, this is where you are wrong: In public spaces, anybody has a right to show up. EG, the Raptors champs celebration - the crowd and Doug Ford all had a right to be there, but most of the crowd didn't want to listen to Doug Ford, so they booed him, and he quickly left the stage. That's just freedom of expression, as recommended by the Canadian Civil Liberties Association: counter-speech and denunciation, rather than censorship. You can't limit our freedom of assembly (to "show up") and freedom of expression ("counter-speech and denunciation") in public spaces. You and your white nationalist buddies can show up to speak, and so can we. Your rights don't outweigh our rights in public spaces. Even people who do support white nationalist views don't show up in public spaces, because they don't want their views publicly known as they may be denounced by friends, family, community, fired from their job, etc. because those views are so abhorrent to most people and definitely not good for business. That's why there are no public audiences for white nationalists. And, of course, hate propaganda - public expressions of hatred against identifiable groups of people, including online - are limited by law in Canada too: https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-46/section-319.html If you white nationalists want to speak to an adoring audience, you should get a private room. The public can still show up to denounce those entering the venue, of course, so ... perhaps hire cars/bus with dark windows to bring your audience to the venue via a back entrance to try to avoid the counter-speaking crowd outside. It is quite complicated being a white nationalist, of course, because you're just so unpopular. But, hey ... that's the life you are choosing, and nobody promised you an adoring audience. Sometimes I think damaged people choose that life of perpetually bringing denunciation on themselves to validate and sustain their own victim-hood and self-hatred, bullies born of abuse, picking on and spreading the abuse to others. Sad, really. And we don't seem to have sufficient or appropriate resources in Canada to assist white nationalists in overcoming their descent into self-destructive hatred. https://www.cbc.ca/cbcdocspov/m_features/former-skinhead-now-helps-others-leave-hate-groups

https://globalnews.ca/news/5952811/justin-trudeau-blackface/ On that note, can you imagine the outcry if this had been the leader of the Conservative party who had donned blackface, instead of the prime minister? Would the reaction be different? I would hazard a guess that the reaction would be no different, except the opposite-minded posters here would be scrambling to defend Scheer. What this issue has shown once again is that the virtual two-Party system has succeeded in dulling the brains of sycophants to bend to the wishes of hero-leaders and see no wrong in their annointed ones. We need to blow that stupid-making system into more pieces so people can think again!

Phhhhht! Nobody promised you an adoring public audience, snowflake. People get booed off public stages all the time. Like Doug Ford ... ... and racist homophobic white nationalists. You're just not popular. Suck it up buttercup.

Seeing the whole country list is interesting: https://climateactiontracker.org/countries/ We have some serious work to do.

I don't engage in the Lib-Con nonsense, don't care about either. The Lib-Con party machines are just about holding onto power, not about leading people into a viable future. They are mired in petty mud-slinging and beholden to outdated status quo industries and corporations, with no vision. I hope for a minority government with Greens holding the balance of power. Then there will be at least some intelligent voices with a vision for Canada's future.

Yes , drowning people out certainly is freedom of expression. We all have it, and we can speak back. Unpopular speakers get drowned out and booed offstage all the time. Doug Ford, for example, hasn't been able to speak in public lately without getting drowned out. That's the public exercising their freedom to express their opinion: People are angry about his cuts to services for kids, even Conservatives who voted for him, and they don't want to hear him speak in public, so he gets booed offstage. That's just democracy and freedom of expression in action. Preventing unpopular people from speaking is a form of freedom of expression, and so is screening their hateful signs from public view. Nobody denies that you white nationalists have a right to speak. But nobody 'has to' listen to you. People can speak back at you, can boo, whistle and drum to drown you out, just like some currently do to the Premier. White nationalists just aren't very popular, and very few "want to listen to them" in public spaces. Lots of people go to oppose them, drown them out. That's just reality. If you want to invite an audience that 'wants to listen', book a private room and do so. In public spaces, the "right" to free speech does not guarantee white nationalists an adoring audience ... nor Doug Ford.

What I mean is that Lib-Con governance is indistinguishable: both toady to the powerful corporations. So the elections focus on mudslinging on superficial 'dog whistle' issues, jousting of interest to political strategy junkies, but not real issues of significance to Canadians. Gutter politics with no substance, because both Liberals and Conservatives have nothing to offer but the status quo.

Link? You are also just promoting hatred against Muslims. It seems to me that you hate everybody except white supremacists. Or, excuse me, do you prefer to be called a white 'nationalist'?

All rapists are not men. All men are not rapists. Are you saying all men are responsible for rape? This analogy is supposed to prove what? Your religious objections are irrelevant. Who cares what "Islam" says? Who cares what Christianity says? Who cares what Judaism says? Not me. Lol These religious wars are disgusting. Fighting over nonsense. Stop trying to pretend you can justify your xenophobia by criticizing a religion. That's as much nonsense as religions are. Lol Extremist Islamic terrorists who kill Muslims are like extremist white supremacist terrorists who kill white people: They hate "traitors" the most. They are deranged and often outcast by limited intelligence and mental disabilities, they are easily brainwashed by violent sociopathic leaders, and they become poisoned with hatred, become criminals. We have a much bigger problem with white supremacists in Canada than we do with Muslims. Muslims come to Canada for peace, to raise their families in relative safety, to get away from the extremism and violence, because their countries have been destroyed by western wars-for-profit that intentionally foment and fund Islamic terrorism. Let me know when we have any of these issues with Muslims in Canada. Hint: We don't. We have laws and law enforcement for any issues that do arise. I don't think you're just having "open discussion". I think you're promoting hatred against Muslims.

Trudeau is now revealed a racist too? RE: "too" You just admitted in your topic title that Scheer is a racist, and Trudeau "too". That's very entertaining. Lol I don't really care. It's just Lib-Con gutter politics, fighting over the same corporate-corrupted turf. Stupid. We need to vote for something better.

Phhht! More twisted white nationalist nonsense. Is that the crap your leaders are feeding you? You do know that they're just manipulating you to feed their own malicious sociopathic egos. I am anti-fascist. We have freedom of expression too. We do drown out hateful, racist homophobes who try to rally in public spaces, or who go to Pride Fests to spew hatred. Inciting and promoting hatred against identifiable groups in our communities isn't appropriate behaviour ... and it's illegal in Canada: https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-46/section-319.html Free speech doesn't mean anyone 'has to' listen to you. Hateful fascist idiots get 'booed off stages' all the time, because many more people don't like what they're saying. 'Free speech' is for all. Lol Suck it up, buttercup!

Nonsense. That's white nationalist propaganda. Twist and spin. The fascists are the ones who hate people of colour, LGBTQ2+ people, feminists, etc. While generally not the brightest lights, there are a few 'smart' sociopathic leaders who easily manipulate others. Janice Bultje aka "Jenny Hill", for example. 'Antifa' are anarchists with centuries of history in exposing and fighting fascism. They led the French resistance when France was occupied by the Nazis, for example. This is the most bizarre thing to me: White nationalist hate groups like to call themselves 'patriots', admire the military, often carry Canadian flags or the Red Ensign ... but they are wannabe nazi fascists. Our Canadian forces - real patriots - fought against Nazis. So I wonder ... is that the stupidity or the sociopathy of white nationalists showing? I guess some of both. Lol

Most Canadians are opposed to fascism. Truth. That's the grim reality of white nationalist delusion: Somebody giving the orders and some killing all the 'undesirables', a white nationalist dream, is not Canadian patriotism. The white nationalist dream is brutal fascism. Patriotism is protecting Canada's democracy, protecting freedoms of all people of all genders, races, creeds, colours and religions. Patriotism is opposing fascist racism, division and conflict. Patriotism is anti-racist, anti-fascist.

We are all mostly antifa = opposed to fascism. Canadian soldiers fought WWII against fascism, against discrimination hatred and genocide across cultures, religions, races, creeds, customs. Antifa exposes fascist behaviours within our systems of state, governance, police and business. We are wise to pay attention, to be aware and to resist the constant threat and pressure on democracy to devolve into fascism. White nationalists and their associated militias, however, want to find 'white' glory in inciting "race wars" in Canada, out of pure hatred, malice, ignorance and fear serving no good purpose to Canadians. I know where I stand. I am anti fascist.

Agreed. Each case is unique and evaluated individually. We need improvements in that process, though, as in my above post.

https://scaffold.media/2019/09/18/jenny-hill-exposed-leader-of-anti-islam-group-pegida-is-chatham-kent-resident-janice-bultje/ The "organized thing" is becoming clearer now.

That is a thing that has been happening in Ontario for several years now, Christian homophobic hate groups travelling around attacking and disrupting Pride Fests.

And irresponsible, corruption ... a payoff to the rich supporters of the Liberal machine. Trudeau specializes in such corruption, and makes no apology for it.

The propensity for aggressive violence belongs to the Christian gay-in-denial homophobic hate groups, who rove from city to city looking for people to attack.