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That's your opinion. The Russians lost the most lives ever in the fight against nazis. This is a fact not opinion! (see Stalingrad for details) From what I see, this fight against the nazis is not over. WWWTT

Actually I provided the links for ALL the members to view! As far as your claim of 30 years, wasn't Wilber the one that claimed he had 30 years experience? Anyways, you still wish to deny "the known facts" to fit your crash theory. As well, I have not heard/read anything about the "background" of the crew that would draw some kind of hostile profile as you have suggested authorities have made. Can you provide the link of where you came across this information. I recall hearing about the authorities were looking into the possibility, but nothing ever came out of that as far as I recall. After all, the more true facts that we have, the more possible actual scenario can be found. And I think you're on your own with your theory that the plane was abducted by "Space Aliens". However I would find it entertaining to read if you were to elaborate! WWWTT

Thanks Rue, I found that long winded "link-less" comment humorous! Here's a link bringing us back to the Ukraine crisis! http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraines-neo-nazis-stepan-bandera-and-the-legacy-of-world-war-ii/5373773 Looks like many people are concerned of the nazi connection in the Ukraine! Can't blame them either considering what they want to do! WWWTT

I was wondering where to post this picture I came across. Might as well give this thread a bump at the same time! WWWTT

Ok here's a bunch of links as to where this is going. http://bit.ly/1fVP6Rk And then more about a witness, claiming the plane was escorted by fighter jets. http://intellihub.com/girlfriend-370-passenger-wood-fighter-jets-accompanied-flight-370-secret-militarized-operation-husband-still-alive/ Also now there's a story about actual GPS co ordinates and a distress message. http://www.westernjournalism.com/shock-claim-flight-370-diego-garcia-per-gps-data/ And of course, an actual photo of the alleged runway where the plane allegedly landed! http://www.secretsofthefed.com/breaking-hijacked-flight-370-passenger-sent-photo-hidden-iphone-tracing-back-secret-u-s-military-base-diego-garcia/ WWWTT

Corruption is pretty much everywhere. I would imagine that if you look at the actual amount or per capita percentage convicted, they would be comparable numbers. But I don't know without looking at any stats. Nothing really sticks out however. As far as they other politicians go, yes they would fair much better than Ford! The laws are different there and Ford would probably be in jail already! He wouldn't even get elected in the first place. WWWTT

Well at least you admit that you don't like the facts here! That's to be expected when the facts don't fit your theory, just throw away the facts and your theory works! Here are some good links for a SERIOUS debate/discussion: http://ri.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEV7hYR0FTgT4ARisXFwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTByNW1iMWN2BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--/RV=2/RE=1396815833/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fwww.itsyourplane.com%2fgenerator.asp%3fa%3dboeing777-200/RK=0/RS=ocx_jhQdIBr83mH0wrI.7nNG2sw- http://ri.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEV7hYR0FTgT4AQisXFwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTByZDBpbXI5BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNQRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--/RV=2/RE=1396815833/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2finsurance-technology.tmcnet.com%2fnews%2f2011%2f03%2f08%2f5361317.htm/RK=0/RS=K_3uIBDJEmkKED7i1ZLqsKvrQfs- http://ri.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEV7hYR0FTgT4APisXFwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTByODJtaWUzBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--/RV=2/RE=1396815833/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2faircraftengineering.wordpress.com%2f2013%2f01%2f15%2fboeing-777-200%2f/RK=0/RS=VYP8b00WnmQStcGi.rOAuyUVAK4- And here's another one that you guys just don't want to here, but is fact! http://ri.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEV7hYR0FTgT4APCsXFwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTBybnV2cXQwBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMgRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--/RV=2/RE=1396815833/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fnews.naij.com%2f61834.html/RK=0/RS=rtGMTKe2EBxgGzSek8bBZVvnFuQ- And here's one with some professional opinions about the transponders (apparently there is 2!) http://ri.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEVilJSkFT_RkADRUXFwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTByODJtaWUzBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--/RV=2/RE=1396816585/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fmetronews.ca%2fnews%2fworld%2f975125%2fmh370-why-would-a-pilot-want-to-turn-off-a-transponder-anyway%2f/RK=0/RS=Oo6FquiQTJeb9EEZ6KByXW7sjgs- WWWTT

That makes sense to you???? That is one of the most bizarre scenarios I have yet heard! I think there would be a better chance of an 18 year old Iranian terrorist, capable of disabling the entire crew, then taking over the plane! Unless of course it happened before and you can provide the link? You are again, ignoring crucial known and well documented facts and emergency procedures to support your theory! WWWTT

I believe you are entering into making some wild speculations here. To detect the pulses, I believe that one only has to be in an wide area to pick it up. I do not know how wide of an area. Is it several miles? Dozens of miles? Or hundreds of miles? And why are they picking up pulses, but never seen the debris? I can see your point if the Chinese just jumped to the location in question from hundreds or thousands of miles away, but I believe they would be following some kind of search grid or pattern. Just have to wait and see what comes out of it. But I would imagine that if this is something worthy, we'll find out soon enough. WWWTT

Buddy, you can't compare any North American city with that in China! Even internationally! Nanning, Guangxi is also building a subway system (however they will start with only 6 stops, but I'm sure will add on for many years). Shenzhen is also expanding its metro lines! Public transit in China is immensely popular and will always be at the forefront there! (not to mention very attractively affordable!) But getting back to Ford, do you think a politician like Ford would ever survive in a country like China? WWWTT

Ya and then he got to appoint whomever he wanted! Just exactly who did Cheney get appointed by? Oh ya, someone who was elected! WWWTT

Nope sorry, wrong again (according to your own values), Clinton served as the head of the US military!(commander in chief) (just as any other US president, and many other leaders) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Armed_Forces http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Two_of_the_United_States_Constitution WWWTT

Like I said before, go so the forum rules for more details. If you don't like the forum rules, then your argument is with the moderators, not me. As far as your last comment I highlighted goes, no I will not stop debating on a debate forum (your request actually sounds ridiculous when its held up for what it really is). But somehow you believe I'm not debating? I guess you have no other way to debate, so then you resort to making personal attacks (of getting personal)! Kind of low but if you think that you are engaging in some kind of tactful debating style, good luck with that one. WWWTT

Life isn't a computer, internet or a political debate forum either, but guess how we're communicating? Guess how millions of people around the world make a living? Guess how many people find interest in engaging in debate on forums like this? Guess how many people use the internet? Here's a link! http://ri.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEVvhUQEBTVzMALUEXFwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTBybnV2cXQwBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMgRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--/RV=2/RE=1396748501/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fen.wikipedia.org%2fwiki%2fInternet/RK=0/RS=pA9k0d4f1GWqAOf_877HX.uvLWo- WWWTT

Very detailed comment, surely there must be something out there to back it up? And so then my predictable request, according to forum rules, any member is entitled to make such a request. (see forum rules for more details) Still more unsubstantiated opinions. And Wilber goes into debunking conspiracy theory mode! So what's Wilber's interest here? WWWTT

The link I provided here is another example why Wilber is going to have to start posting links to back up his alleged "EXPERIENCE" WWWTT

Pulses, not pings. Here's a quote from the link: "It would be truly incredible luck to blindly stumble across the ping from the black box, with no other debris having been located, with no other clues that this could be from that missing Malaysian aircraft," he said. And here's the link. http://ri.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEV75qOUBT1WUAH8MXFwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTByMG04Z2o2BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--/RV=2/RE=1396746731/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fwww.cbc.ca%2fnews%2fworld%2fmalaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-pulse-signal-detected-chinese-report-says-1.2599494/RK=0/RS=zF_1PORk1yMFs_AiNRiJyrcXzB4- Take it for what it is, but it is something! WWWTT

Here is another interesting bit I cam across http://ri.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEVjjDNUBTtmAA1SAXFwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTByMG04Z2o2BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--/RV=2/RE=1396745795/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fwww.themalaysianinsider.com%2fmalaysia%2farticle%2fsatellites-picked-up-pings-from-malaysian-jet-say-sources/RK=0/RS=zICd45dM56lbI.zGOcim_DbVznU- According to this link, the pinging is evidence that the plane can still communicate! Here's the quote: But the "pings" indicated its maintenance troubleshooting systems were switched on and ready to communicate with satellites, showing the aircraft, with 239 people on board, was at least capable of communicating after losing touch with air traffic controllers WWWTT

Do you know the difference between experience and BS is? Do you think about what you are writing? If his "experience" is not an opinion, then why is it so hard for him to provide a link for what he is writing? Even an opinion can be backed up! Ok then so lets go back and actually look at what Wilber has written that has me concerned with his "EXPERIENCE" (as if capitalizing the letters would somehow express that only the person writing understands that freekin word http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/topic/23421-boeing-777-disappears-near-vietnam/page-15#entry952736 Of all the comments made, Wilber, a self proclaimed experienced pilot has spent one total comment about safety procedures. Do you not find that a little odd for an alleged experienced pilot? Here's what I fond with a couple minutes searching. Very recent incidents, local and very related/relevant to the missing plane now! http://ri.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEVr_kLEBTPncAGNUXFwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTBya3R2ZmV1BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNARjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--/RV=2/RE=1396743525/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fottawa.ctvnews.ca%2fairplane-makes-emergency-landing-after-smoke-reported-on-board-1.1206473/RK=0/RS=UFuD0TPvP6FCWvforDc0s6LHQrw- http://ri.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEVkBRLUBTJyMApA8XFwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTBya3R2ZmV1BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNARjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--/RV=2/RE=1396743633/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fnews.ca.msn.com%2flocal%2fmanitoba%2fplane-forced-to-land-in-winnipeg-after-smoke-fills-cockpit/RK=0/RS=EORDuKv4Ci5O2HCCBPJujMMxTrw- http://ri.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEVjsZAUBTSUoAodwXFwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTByZHI5MXByBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNgRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--/RV=2/RE=1396732313/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fwww.reuters.com%2farticle%2f2013%2f09%2f29%2fus-poland-lot-idUSBRE98S0DI20130929/RK=0/RS=5scl3ylvQa_nhI7rdTlvxRbIr1M- Now why can't an allegedly "EXPERIENCED" poster do a quick search for a couple examples??? Wilber is obviously more interested in writing about conspiracy theories and "tin foil hats" since many more of his comments revolve around those topics as opposed to safety procedures from a trained, "EXPERIENCED" pilot. Oh and by the way, if I was a passenger on a flight, I sure as hope that the pilot of the plane is more concerned with safety than tin foil hats! Don't believe me, go back and read them, that simple! WWWTT

No not at all. I don't think the police chief of TO really likes Ford, so I'm sure he wants to get rid of him. A criminal conviction would certainly do that if Ford somehow won the lottery and gets re-elected! But we'll see how it plays out. WWWTT

Looks like there's some spill over from this event, but not is a traditional sense from Russia. Looks like the US has some concern that emerging nations are challenging their traditional authority. We'll see what happens from this. https://ca.news.yahoo.com/u-warns-china-not-attempt-crimea-style-action-035824391.html WWWTT

No that's something you just made up. It was clear that there was a referendum, and this was the result. However, the fact that the area used to be part of the Soviet socialist Republic (USSR or CCCP), probably led to many people from different regions moving from one region to others. That much seems to be the case here. You logic is blurred by ignorance my friend! Click on the link and enlighten yourself a bit, perhaps your opinion may change with a little education. http://ri.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEVi90Kj9TFxMAMi4XFwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTByMG04Z2o2BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--/RV=2/RE=1396677364/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fen.wikipedia.org%2fwiki%2fAlaska_Purchase/RK=0/RS=Rj06NyGdnTfr1JNoTNU1B_GAHC0- WWWTT

I would think that the Toronto police chief is having lots of sleepless nights when he sees the Ford polls surge ahead! 3 more years of Ford will probably give Blair an early heart attack or something? WWWTT

Ya I just threw that rough number out there to show that the current search follows a 5-7hr flight time path. I'm sure there are other factors affecting fuel consumption. I assume that there would be an optimal cruising speed to maximize fuel efficiency. One of the links that I provided explains that the model of plane is capable of connecting almost any two major cities in the world. But I don't think that the speed is known after it went missing? And here's the thing, somebody obviously went through a lot of trouble to hide the movement of this plane. This is a fact! The only other alternative is that there was a fire or an electrical short, this would have alarmed the pilots and they would immediately attempt to safely land the plane! So I am confident that there was people on the inside that hid the movements! All it would take is a ground crew when filling the plane to falsify the weight added. And then the plane can pretty much go anywhere in the world! Keep in mind, that this plane has a fantastic safety record! It was built to take off, fly and land very safely! That is an unquestionable fact! As far as I'm concerned, this plane has done everything that it was designed to do, up until it went missing. IF there is no wreckage ever found, this plane was never destroyed. If someone claims the plane was destroyed, then the burden of proof is on them that this plane and or crew did something out of character! WWWTT

Do you use the word "possible" From your comment, you seem to think that I didn't? I only mentioned that it was a "possibility"! As well you didn't provide any links! If you respond back without even an attempt to provide a reliable backing link, I'm not going to waste anymore of my time debating your OPINION! Do I make myself clear buddy! WWWTT