drummindiver

You don't have to "convince yourself" of anything when the proof is constantly in front of you. This isn't a scientific theory we're talking about here.

Here in Canada we bend over backwards accomodating claims from you and other Muslims. Muslims, on the other hand, have it their way at home and at our home. You have the best of both worlds. Nice for you.

I don't think I did that. I was just stating there are many interpretations, and everyone believes theirs is the one true one, even those who advocate violence.

"Their interpretation" Many Muslims interpretation matches theirs and don't consider it wrong. 122 members signed. Out of 1!5 billion, that's what known as a shit turn out. Several of the signees were part of terrorist instances. Widely stated that those who supported letter were apostates.

Who would you classify a learned scholar? Surely members and leaders of ISIS could be considered such?

This is one of my main issues with Chrristianity (besides the fact I'm not delusional) is that you can murder someone on Sat and go to the church on Sunday and confess, state Jewus is your saviour and all is forgiven, in a theological sense.

Lol. Thanks for your time. If I want to play games I'll go outside and play hockey.

You seem to think that you know what every sect, every Muslim is thinking.Who are you to say what their interpretation is?

Really? I concur, always have, which was s why I thought we disagreed.

Please enlighten me Obi Wan.

Sorry, tried to delete " he did not twist them" from post 4

He did not twist them He stated that Muslims were not adhering g to the tenets closely enough. He claimed "Takfir" which means that Islam was extinct due to this One of the things Muslims disagreed with him on was slavery. Qutb said slavery had run its course, while the clerics said slavery was allowed in Islam. "Qutb assertion that slavery is now illegal under Islam, as its lawfulness was only temporary, existing only "until the world devised a new code of practice, other than enslavement." Traditionalist critics maintain "Islaam has affirmed slavery ... And it will continue so long as Jihaad in the path of Allaah exists." (Shaikh Salih al-Fawzaan)[28]"

Yes, thousands of years of no progress towards a kinder society. Blames it on the last 60 years. Blames it on other societies.

Yes, but it was after Milestones was printed I. 1964 that they were as widespread. Sorry, my syntax was confusing.

First Nations took scalps. White men took silver and go,d and land. Your argument is nonexistent.

Abrogation gets in the way of your claims.

Yes, must be the States. Not the fact that 1964 marked Muslim Brothrhood coming into being, and please don't us the vacuous statement that they filled a vacuum.

Purportedly provincial governments have the say in marriage, but as has been seen the Feds have tak n over.

While many on this forum argue about whether the Q'uran or Bible is the book espousing more evil, the fact is Mr. qutb's book Milestones laid the groundwork for the extremism we are seeing today in the Islamic faith. He absolutely despised the West while at the same time placing Muslims who were not faithful to original Islamic tenets in the same category. Is there a book paralleling this ultra adherence in Christianity or Judaism? Anybody reading this book can not misinterpret what it is trying to achieve, and the fact that it is embraced almost as reverently as the Quran is frightening. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milestones_(book)