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Really? Last poll I saw the NDP were barely ahead of the Greens... 14.5% to 13.9%

Yeah, but only because he talked like one and had a simular mentality... Totally different, he was a President, Michelle is just married to one... No one picked on Laura, and if you think they did please provide the LINK for us to examine the link... Get real bud... This is making you look bad and putting you in company I don't think you want to keep...

Not to mention FauxNews ratings...

No way! Ex navy pilot and now a part of the "Corporate Elite" he told me... Hmmm, has he lied to me before? He's just a nice American with some Canada envy don't you know...

Good call...

Are we talking Canada or the US here? When it came to to the banking sector there was no Canadian "bailout", none was needed, thanks to the Liberals quashing the proposed mergers with US banks some years ago... Our banks did lose some money via US investments but they also received some benefit from the Bush initiated TARP money...

A large proportion of the Chinese SUPPORT the Chinese Government and the Government is implementing many reforms beneficial to the general Chinese population... For better or worse China isn't going the way of the countries we're seeing on TV anyTIME soon...

Unfortunately certain uninformed voters gave them that right.. It can be changed next election... Or not... A class action law suit can be started, or a STRONG petition, or calling MPs, but there's that same uninformed element still around supporting the CONS regardless of what they do... That's just the way it is in our system of Government... You, I, and our great grandchildren may still be paying the price...

Has that petition started circulating yet? How many signatures does it need? If those Republican senators are recalled will it make a difference in an impeachment hearing? pssst - fyi in case you missed it, this thread is about Walker and Wisconsin not Clinton and Arkansas... just sayin'

Yup, and so do A WHOLE LOT of Americans that across the country voted Jon Stewart and The Daily Show "the most trusted name in news" ahead of ALL the News Channels including FauxNews...

Yeah, but it's so much better coming from you...

Absolutely correct... This may become a rather contentious issue in the next election as the CONS scramble for safer ground to appease their traditional base in regards to immigration...

Maybe NOT so stupid, it's happened before - - The NDP was routed in the 1993 election. It won only nine seats, three seats short of official party status in the House of Commons. Several factors contributed to this dramatic collapse just one election after winning a record number of seats and after being first in opinion polling at one point during the previous Parliament. One was the massive unpopularity of NDP provincial governments under Bob Rae in Ontario and Mike Harcourt in British Columbia. Not coincidentally, the NDP was routed in these provinces; it lost all 10 of its Ontario MPs and 17 of its 19 British Columbia MPs – more than half of its caucus. The Ontario NDP would be soundly defeated in 1995, while the British Columbia NDP recovered and won reelection in 1996. -

Talk about pots and kettles... Now threats?

I did... Now answer the question on impeaching a Governor oh all knowledgable one of the U.S of A... Of course if you are AFRAID to answer, or don't know, you can just tell us... Inquiring minds want to know...

Not as a former Governor of Arkansas he doesn't that's why I'm asking YOU as YOU suggested I do...

But will it have party status after the next election and is Layton willing to find out? http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=18039&view=findpost&p=627760

Largest turnout of demonstrators yet in Wisconsin... Punked Walker - Koch call hit's the Daily Show and other Comedy Shows and is now going viral... Crank call -Major topic on News Channels (what choice do they have after it's on "the most trusted name in news" - The Daily Show) even usurping Libya... What does it take to impeach a Governor? Will Wisconsin be the first state to fall and get "liberated" from the Corporate/Political alliance? Will Ohio be far behind as the second state to fall? So many questions, so few answers...

Fair comment... I'm glad you are being somewhat open minded and now understand that indeed there are some problems... Options, yes... Good options not necessarily... For reasons that should be obvious to anyone, certainly those that have followed our discussions on this thread, the F-18E/F(G) is easily the most viable and easily the BEST yet least costly option... Hindsight is always 20/20 and certainly not a simple equation since many needs and factors change quickly in the passage of TIME... In principle you are correct, but so was/is keeping Canada a viable country beyond just it's Military... A further thought would be that with the many, many disadvantages Canada has being situated next to the BIG Elephant next door wouldn't it just make sense to take advantage of something like the US's Military power as one of the few benefits of our location on the Globe? I'll let this statement answer that question for me - -“It seems like all of our NATO allies are questioning the skyrocketing costs of the F-35, so why is the Canadian government alone in writing a blank cheque to Lockheed Martin with no questions asked?” There is no penalty for cancelling the current deal and holding an open competition for our next fighter jet. A Liberal government would remain committed to the 2006 Memorandum of Understanding that gives Canadian industry access to F-35 contracts, without any obligation to purchase the planes. - Here we somewhat disagree... The US forces are NOT putting all their eggs into the F-35 and has multiple other options to achieve it's goals and needs as YOU yourself stated earlier... ONLY Canada is preparing to put all it's eggs into the F-35 basket... I don't think that's a good idea... Again - I'll let the following statements answer for me - - Last week, Alan Williams, the former Assistant Deputy Minister of defence responsible for procurement, testified before Parliament that it was a mistake to go to a sole-source competition and that an open competition would get the best fighter at the lowest price with the most jobs. In a vitriolic response, Stephen Harper said that Mr. Williams had changed his opinion since he was in government – a charge that Mr. Williams called an “absolute lie.” “This is the single largest military procurement in Canadian history,” said Liberal Defence Critic Dominic LeBlanc. “We are deeply concerned that the government hasn’t been straight with Canadians, and that without competition, we’re not getting the right plane, the best price, or the greatest benefits for our aerospace industry.” Mr. Garneau and Mr. LeBlanc set out the following questions on the F-35 deal: 1. What are the defence priorities and the domestic and foreign mission requirements that our new fighter jets must be able to support? 2. What are the roles, capabilities and operational performance requirements that any new fighter must be able to meet in order to support these future domestic and international priorities and missions? 3. What evidence does the government have to demonstrate that their deal gets the right equipment for our Air Force while achieving the following: a. The lowest cost and best value for taxpayer dollars, with controls to prevent cost escalation; and b. Guaranteed regional benefits with a transfer of intellectual property to grow the Canadian aerospace industry, including in-service support? “Without compelling answers to each of these questions, we don’t understand why the government is sole-sourcing a plane chosen by the Pentagon,” said Mr. LeBlanc. - Looks can be VERY deceiving when it comes to things like this... The F-35 still remains a "project" and is still a totally unproven entity... That's what concerns me most... I thank you that you took the TIME to try and understand my position on this matter and have tried to be as forthright and complete in my viewpoint as possible throughout this thread... I too have learned things in our discussions, so open debate on an important issue like this is always beneficial to all concerned... Special thanks to BC_2004 and others, who have, and hope I will continue, to have input into this matter...

Always nice when you confirm what I say... From the Right Wing American viewpoint of course...

No, highest if this Harper purchase proceeds and Canada is on the hook via a contractual agreement to purchase... Pull out costs would apply... Not so for the other countries that have not made such a commitment prior to the F-35 going into productions... Lose - lose in all aspects... Except for LM of course, they can't lose unless the entire program gets shut down...

Not just Americans my friend, not just Americans...

Naaa, basically people are people at the grassroots level... I've seen Jewish and Palestinian women arm in arm facing off against armed Military and arm in arm against armed insurgents... It's only when people put religious believes above themselves at a political level that these things become problematic... POWER to the people one might say...

You and Harper might be in for a big surprise...