poochy

Yea, just like all of the other times that other parties with other leaders have won under similar circumstances, this is a great country, our voting system has served us well, some of you may feel disenfranchised, but thats normal, it's life. i felt the same 20 years ago, i worked my way out of it, i was very liberal 20 years ago, i grew out of it, there is no shortage of opportunity for anyone in this country, the electoral system isn't keeping you down.

Can you explain to us why you think a religion that dislikes homosexuals enough that it somtimes kills them is no different than a religion that dislikes homosexuals and doesn't kill them? it's hard for a rational person to take anything seriously from someone who could hold such a illogical position, so maybe you can clarify it.

Of course, and you can only beat back the horde with logic so often before you tire of the stupid. Im waiting for an answer, it seems unlikely to me that a few thousand refugees of any stripe will change the election, but again when you are on the left you only have to yell loudly, your words don't have to mean anything.

Not the only, but when even being the wrong muslim sect can get you killed, being christian can only put you at a higher risk, so about those votes being bought...

In your honest opinion. how many votes did they or could they have bought and what is the likelyhood that those votes purchased could have changed any election?

Hey now, doing the right thing only counts when it's benefitting someomne other than a christian, you know this.

I wonder what runs through someones head when they take the time to write something so obviously ridiculous, those guys don't like you, but only some of them might kill you, those other guys....o yea, they don't like you all of the time, not like those other guys who sometime kill you for it, when they aren't killing you, they clearly like you....right, it's wonderland Alice.

Despite your obviously well reasoned retort, there isn't one.

Excellent argument, unfortunately you are speaking to people who's ability to rationalize these truth's extends as far as, conservatives mean, Harper mean, Trudeau nice, and no farther than that. There is litterally nothing that could happen to change their minds.

Really? How many conservatives here or elsewhere are anti gay, anti abortion, against women working outside the home, etc, so on and so forth? The fact is this, our society, all of it, has become in general, far more liberal, even those that consider themselves conservative are far more liberal in general, it is they who have compromised and changed their beleifs more than anyone, and rightfully so. However, the left, or the progressives never seem to think that compromise is enough, on any subject, it is a strange beleif system and ideology the lends one to beleive that it is the one and truly only answer on any subject. It is for example some kind of mortal sin to suggest that people should show some measure of respect to thier adopted country and it's traditions, traditions that no doubt had something to do with it's success, by showing your face when you become a citizen. Even that is far too much of an affront for the left to bear. I and most who are more conservative here are far from against every left wing polcy, but it is in part the seemingly more common and extreme belief of the left that anything resembling conservatism is somehow evil or scary that I think has lead to this evil harper narrative that was invented before he had a chance to do anything as PM. Nothing approaching the evil agenda has occured, yet just about everything is somehow twisted into fitting that narrative. In some ways I see voting conservative as a way of combatting an opposing view that seems utterly intolerant of anything but its own world view, statements like yours combined with the absolute fact that a typical conservative has become much more liberal in recent decades only serves to reinforce that belief. We here cosntant screaming about how bad things are, and yet almost nothing of consequence has changed, a little perspective would be nice from time to time. There is nowhere near the vitriol directed at Trudeau as there has been at Harper, to even suggest it is ridiculous, sure, his intelligence or experience is questioned, and so what? He is running for PM, it might matter if he comes across as a bit dull, but no one is suggesting that he will do anything like take away womens rights or abortion rights, or turn the country into a police state. or a dictatorship, as Harper has been accused of. Of course Harper hasn't done anything like those things, the real problem is some of you desperately want to beleive he has, in defiance of anything approaching reality. The post above directly above mine is a prime example, this exact view point of HArper exsited before the supposed, simply impossible to accept afronts above ever occured, did they actually occur? were they or are they that bad, or have they been simply appended to an irrational beleif that already existed, twisted to fit that narrative. Look at Harper, ATTACKING women, in Canada, on our streets....

You will get no argument from me, in principle im not against improvements, but those improvements should come from where the money already is before we spend more, which of course is what the cosnervatives have been trying to do, but as i'm sure you have heard, that's not nice.

Now he's promising to fix the water problems on reserves, ok, im not against the idea, but that wasn't in the 'costed' plan. Billions more in spending, but he doesn't have to make any of this work, he just has to be nice, cuddly Justin, cuz Harper just isn't nice, and that's more important to some people than things like budgets, taxes, or reality. http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/kady-omalley-trudeaus-pledge-to-clean-up-on-reserve-drinking-water-could-blow-a-hole-in-his-partys-proposed-budget

Ok, perhaps I was wrong about that, maybe you can help, is there a different term used to describe a political promise that you know full well will not produce the result you hope people will beleive is possible? Or are the leaders of the liberal party really that stupid?

Already done, gun registry (did nothing to prevent crime), already done. Though I will commend you on your excellent high frequency hearing.

Yes, its a minor, paperwork change, it puts no one in harms way, this is just the liberals doing what they do. Again, you have a loose screw somewhere if you believe a handgun owner cannot do bad things with his handgun, or take it somewhere he shouldn't just because the liberals want him to get a piece of paper anytime he wants to take it somewhere new. It is exactly as effective as the piece of paper that said 'registered' was at preventing illegal acts with a firearm, that liberal dog whistle only cost a billion or so and did exactly nothing to prevent crime.

Is that really the best you could come up with?

The country be damned. 10 years of whining about conservatives not spending enough, then too much, and now the liberals will spend even more, it says a lot about liberals, none of it good, power at literally any cost.

I do find it amusing when people talk about dog whistle politics and the conservatives, perhaps it's the, all things progressive, or at least any one persons version of what is progressive must be good attitude that's so pervasive among liberals. This is just one example, but frankly the liberals play this sort of game with the voters just like the conservatives, and if you're the one hearing the whistle it just means that your just a dog of a slightly different color. It doesn't matter of course that a piece of paper doesn't at all prevent you from taking your handgun somewhere you shouldn't, this is about liberals buying votes, they all do it. http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/firearms-groups-apoplectic-after-liberals-promise-new-gun-control-measures

Still early, it pretty hard to beleive the new conservative lead.

Yep, im sure it's all bad, all the time, this is the conservatives after all, darth vader, evil agenda, etc.

Yep, he couldn't resist the "caretaker" jab, i rolled my eyes so hard i nearly detached a retina, of course he forgot the part about the deal having to be ratified by the next government, whomever that is, this deal is not being forced upon anyone by a "caretaker" government, o facts, you're so hard on the left.

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Give us a break indeed, i could use a break from all of the people who won't vote conservative pretending to actually care about the deficit, i am sure they cared at least as much as the federal liberal party that complained about the deficit after they asked for a bigger one, but before they planned to increase it.

O but you aren't trying to insinuate that conservatives are less intelligent...o no, of course not. More men are very intelligent than are women, also there are more very stupid men, than there are women, maybe men tend to be more conservative and therefore more of the very stupid men are conservative, idk, but i do know that pathetic left wingers like to pretend they are more intelligent. When so willing to mislead about a simple study like this it's no surprise that they are easily convinced to believe there own lies.