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The most important mission for these new frigates in Canada is....jobs and votes...same as any other defence procurement. A dysfunctional process by design, just add this program to a long list of previous procurement fiascos.

Shallow, phony gestures and virtue signalling, you mean?

The Old Testament (often abbreviated OT) is the first division of the Christian biblical canon, which is based primarily upon the 24 books of the Hebrew Bible (or Tanakh), a collection of ancient religious Hebrew writings by the Israelites believed by most Christians and religious Jews to be the sacred Word of God. Strange, when I was a kid the church did not have a Bible that was cut in half.

If there was only a place you could put all those despicable Trumpers you hate so much. A farm perhaps...or a camp.

It was also lucky that at the time of Uranus discovery, Neptunes orbit had the two planets close together. If Neptune had been on the other side of the sun its gravity would not have affected Uranus. I think the orbital periods are so long, such alignments only occur on the order of centuries.

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Yes...Venera. As per previous post... In Orbiter, attempts to land on Venus can be funny as the math starts to breakdown the nearer the surface you get. Sixty atmospheres or something crazy like that. Like flying through Jello...minus Bill Cosby.

You have asked an extremely good question, and please let me apologize for not responding earlier, nor completely now (on an emergency callout for last week). The short answer that I will be glad to elaborate on later is that the general public KNOWS there is something very wrong. To me, it is a parallel to the "1%" protests. Again, people KNOW/knew there is something drastically wrong with wealth distribution, but since they have come to rely on the media to deliver information, they are getting pure, unadulterated bullshit and they know that, but they never understood what was behind it. Just that something is really wrong. In the case of politics, the competing messages are once again so very different, they aren't quite sure what to believe, but the DO know the system of politics as we know it is deeply flawed.

Also exciting was the discovery of Neptune. After planet Uranus was discovered, its orbit was found to be unusual and astronomers became aware that there was something inconsistent with their calculations. The existence of another planet was speculated, as that would explain the errant behaviour of Uranus. One of the pencil-necked geeks of the time calculated the position of the planet. By then they had telescopes good enough to see Neptune. And lo and behold, pointed to where they thought and there it was. Found by human reasoning and mathematics. Thank you Isaac Newton.

This Aussie calls Canada a "bludger"....

I am a Venusian observer, whatever that means. Actually I shouldn't say that, I love all the planets equally. Yes even Pluto after what they did... bastards. The Soviets sent a few probes to Venus. None of them lasted very long. If I recall, surface temperature 800 degrees. Atmospheric pressure on the surface of the planet was very high, and full of hydrochloric acid. A fascinating place. Somehow Russkies landed two Venera probes on it. Both probes survived for an hour and were able to send back some photographs, then went silent. The Venera probes had detectors to "listen" for the sound of thunder in the atmosphere. Signals were detected at 100 hz, possibly indicating the presence of lightning. Also interesting about Venus is that the temperature of the upper cloud deck is at 20 Deg. C, and the chemistry could make it suitable for life to exist.

That's the thing, eh? Canadians used to rate a beach when invading Europe to wipe out Jerry. Now we'd need a lift...

Nah....Canada prefers to spend more money on used junk from other nations. Except for those CC-177s that Harper bought over Liberal objections. Smart move....

Even Canada is after a piece of the U.S. action...not nearly as much action in Canada. Canada makes its military suffer with obsolete kit for decades...because it can always defer to the American DoD.

Wyoming's ship building industry provides some challenges.

That’s not true you are just blind to the fact that there is no real “equality of opportunity” in society. There will always be people who have far more opportunity than the norm and those who have far less. And the former is always trying to take more from the latter.

Democrats believe that there should be different rules for different groups according to skin colour & sex. Equity of outcome is far more essential to the socialist thinking than equality of opportunity. No tall grass, please. Also, everybody is either an oppressor or a victim. No in-between. Those folks that go for this sort of eugenics BS like it and see no issue, mind-you. Yourself included, I assume. Judging people by their group is just natural...and the individual is of no value without the collective.

LMAO yeah right! Trumpsters are the antithesis of people who believe in a rule book for everyone. For them, right or wrong is based solely on the logic of “who’s side are you on”.

Did Joe not think there was proof?

With a capital "M" Marxists.

Hubert H. Humphey had to run the damn Marxists, communists and socialists out of the Democratic Farm Labor party in my state, but they are making a resurgence (e.g. Black Lives Matter -> Marxists).

Including anti-Semites and various supremist types. A diverse group, for sure.

Big deal...the U.S. has more landed immigrants than the entire population of Canada. In 2019, about 11,000 Canadians became U.S. citizens....with Trump as president !

I dodged bullets in the Killing Fields for two extra years instead of going to CANADA. ---Khan Soupanousaphone: King of the Hill

The parts where they order you what to do.

Democrats are infested with Marxists, socialists, communists, and illegals...far worse.

Not to immigrants...far more chose the USA over Canada. The U.S. has more landed immigrants than any other nation in the world....by far.

We'll take forever to pick a new jet...and then pick the wrong one. Can't see surface ships being any different than helicopters, submarines and f/w aircraft.