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What do you know about it? Tell me what you think of the 2014 SAGE review of the DTP shots and the 2017 Aaby study that addressed the 3 issues that were identified in the SAGE review. How about the 2018 Aaby study followup? I assume you have read all these and can comment without quickly googling them, because you "support" the pertussis vax.

just responding to the usual gibberish people post when there's isues of the environment. When I should've responded to your original post. Like, WTF do building airplanes and the availability of natural gas even have to do with each other?

No, you made up some flimsy excuses about cars… Its like saying you are not opposed to cars, but then when I ask you which ones you are OK with you can’t answer. its should be simple. I think Toyota Tacoma’s are great. I’m also a fan of kids not dying or suffering through whooping cough. I like that vaccine too! See? Not hard.

Measles has not been eliminated. The 98% that was eliminated had nothing to do with vaccines. Period. Polio was well into the downstroke before vaccines and is attributed to an unknown toxic element that no longer is around. A lot of scientists believe DDT was a contributing factor, as they were literally spraying school children with DDT at the time and only US soldiers, who were also sprayed with DDT had outbreaks that didn't affect the local populations of the countries they were serving in. Again, nothing to do with vaccines. Period. Scarlet fever disappeared on its own. Again, no vaccine. While vaccines can contribute to health, they are not the holy grail of medicine that you think they are. Last time - your question is retarded. I explained why.

OK… but what vaccines do you support? This should be an easy question to answer if you are not an anti-vax person as you claim. Which ones have you researched and found to be good? You spend all this time on here saying which ones you oppose, which ones you tell people not to take… why can’t you do the opposite?

YOU are ^RIDICULOUIS. LMAO

Well, because those things didn’t “eliminate” a majority of childhood disease. It did significantly reduce it. As I acknowledged. It was only after the introduction of both the Polio and Measles vaccines that we seen elimination of those diseases and even more reduction in the spread of the disease beyond improved hygiene and sanitation and medical care. ”Yeah, scienctists tend to agree that improved sanitation, hygene, and medical care advancements all contributed to a decrease in DEATHS.” For the millionth time, I’ve never supported forcing people to get vaccinated, let alone every vaccine. You don’t get to say I won’t discuss things honestly when it is you who keeps lying about what I’ve said and advocated for. This is a discussion forum. If you post baseless assertions, I’m gonna challenge them. Maybe you should get a journal… then you can’t write down all your conspiracy theories and baseless assertions where no one can see them and actually ask you to back up that nonsense.

Interesting watch on how the data came down. Most of Rahman votes came from skid row, the homeless center of LA. What did we see happening there with people getting paid to vote. Also how did Rahman at the very very end of the election get SOOOOO many people to vote for her. She went up 80% after the election was over and actually got more votes than Bass did from late mail in ballots. Seems weird right? I guarantee you this has been happening for a long time, they only reason it was caught this time was because for the first time a a non Democrat actually had a chance of winning and watching how a woman who has polled behind him somehow beat him after the election was over. Which you should of seen the mail in ballots continuing roughly in the same proportion Rahman jumped ahead of even Bass. it doesn't make any sense.

Who the f*ck are you that you think you have the right to bully and demand anything of people on the internet? You say the government fully informed people, he says they didn't. So what? You're just gonna bully him for 5 pages til he says you're right? HE DOESN'T FEEL PEOPLE WERE FULLY OR CORRECTLY INFORMED AND HE SHOWED YOU WHY AND EXPLAINED WHY AND GAVE YOU LINKS FOR WHY. HE DID THIS OVER & OVER & OVER. I gave you an entire article of the KNOWN risks of mRNA tech BEFORE the jabs were mandated, again showing the government did not fully or correctly inform people. You ignored it. You are a dishonest debater. Nobody is "running" from you.

I support individuals making their own choices, based on their own individual health assessments and needs, when it comes to vaccines and any other medical interventions. I base whether I "support" a certain vaccine or don't support another, based on myself, my own health and needs. And I expect others to do the same. Your question is retarded. I drive the car I drive because it was the best choice for me, based on my own needs, price range, automotive knowledge, etc. It doesn't mean I "support" Toyota and believe the government should step in and force everyone to buy a Toyota.

You refused to acknowledge that the majority of childhood disease was eliminated by better hygiene, nutrition, sanitation and advances in medical infection control. You insisted that vaccines alone had done all the work. You insisted this even though I showed you actual data and charts directly from the CDC, showing exactly that. You are so emotionally attached to everyone being forced to get every vaccine available that you cannot think straight or discuss anything honestly.

Well… once again, you build some false image of me. This is what you have to do. You can’t engage earnestly so you make crap up.

@Goddess You claim you are not anti-vax… so what vaccines do you support?

User, you are fast becoming the minority - people who believe in vaccines like it's a religion and are firmly against actual testing of them, including the effect of multiple shots at one time, as in the childhood schedule. More & more people, thanks to what happened during covid, are questioning. And they are finding out that none of the shots on the childhood schedule have ever been through comprehensive, placebo-controlled testing. They are finding out they were lied to. When Pharma was given blanket immunity in 1986, the childhood schedule ballooned from about 12 childhood shots to almost 80. It has never been studied what the effects are of giving an infant 6-10 shots at a time. While mothers are cautioned to only gradually introduce foods, one at a time to babies who start on food nutrition. Other peer countries have studied this and as a result have greatly reduced the childhood schedules in those countries. but Big Pharma is based in the US and they are not going to give up their billions of dollars easily. Realigning United States Core Childhood Vaccine Recommendations with Best Practices from Peer, Developed Countries – The White House In December 2025, a Fabrizio poll of 1,000 voters in key House districts was circulated to the White House and picked up wall-to-wall by the New York Times and other outlets, with the message that vaccine skepticism was bad politics and that candidates who questioned childhood vaccine requirements would pay at the ballot box. Kennedy was told to stand down on vaccines and focus on food. The White House obliged. is the rest of the Fabrizio data, from a poll conducted in October 2025 by Trump's own longtime pollster, that was never released. The suppressed results show that 73% of voters expressed concern about childhood vaccine mandates, 90% expressed concern about the pharmaceutical industry's corrupting influence over government, politics, medical research, and news coverage, 70% across all political affiliations want vaccine manufacturer blanket immunity lifted. Nearly seven in ten voters want more research into vaccines' cumulative effect on infants. The poll that shaped six months of White House vaccine policy told a fraction of the story. The rest was kept from Trump. Against that backdrop, Trump just signed an executive order directing the CDC and ACIP to review the scientific assessment and latest clinical data and take appropriate steps to update the childhood and adolescent vaccine schedule, with explicit language requiring that all actions fulfill legal obligations with respect to parental authority, religious freedom, disability accommodations, and equal protection. Dr. Robert Malone, former ACIP co-chair, describes the order as potentially changing the vaccine debate forever, because the phrase "to the extent permitted by law" restores executive branch authority over vaccination policy and strips ACIP of its de facto rule-making power, confining the committee to an advisory role rather than the policy-setting function it has exercised for decades. The Massachusetts judge's stay on the ACIP restructuring had put Kennedy's reform agenda on ice. This executive order moves around that roadblock. We should keep our eyes focused on the next ACIP meeting.

No. I choose not to engage you because you don't engage honestly Yet, you can’t point out the dishonesty. The reality is that you push the standard surface level deep anti-vax talking points, I show you the data and logical reasoning for how you are wrong… and you got no response. I told you why i stopped engaging you on that. When polio & measles deaths go down by 98% BEFORE a vaccine is invented and you contend that the only reason deaths went down was 100% because of vaccine, you're either stoopid or pretending to be stoopid. If you wanna play stoopid, you play by yourself. See, now you are lying. My position was never that it was 100% because of a vaccine, that deaths went down. You just have to make up shit to justify your inability to engage intellectually with facts and logic.

Or how much it cost them to get homeless people to vote.

LOL. That's because your 'practical' progressives decided the answer was for the West, which makes up about 10% of the population, to have fewer babies, while the 3rd world is pumping them out by the billion. About six million babies will be born in Europe this year and 50 million in Africa.

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And this is the cliche of the Left. Any complaint about immigration = racism. Racism = evil. You don't talk with evil people; you simply denounce them. You'll notice this 'tard made no effort to do more than that. Because he's not capable of it. Every demographer and every economist has said for decades that you can't address a declining birthrate with immigration. Yet every single time the government speaks, it justifies its mass immigration with the need to address a declining birthrate.

Elizabeth Warren is just such a giant piece of human garbage.

We won't. Carney looks at the riots going on in the UK, Ireland and France says "Yeah! We want some of that stuff! Let me imitate everything the UK has been doing! Which is basically what he's doing. You know all these censorious laws he's putting in place to stop people from talking about failed immigration and hostile migrants have been in place in the UK, Ireland, and France for years, right? The government, this one, not the Trudeau one, continues to pour in low-grade, low-skilled immigrants from the 3rd world as fast as it can get away with. 42% of even the 'economic' class is now reserved for mostly low-skilled Muslims from North Africa they deliberately recruited. I agree. Unfortunately, the government does not, nor does our school system nor our media. Canada is a genocidal country of racist colonialists on stolen land. They have no intention of changing that. Every new policy Carney announces is hyped for how it helps this or that group of immigrants, Muslims, or brown people. They don't tolerate discussion. If you don't share their views on those subjects, you're evil and the only thing left to do is denounce you and cancel you. If you watch any of the demonstrations held by the jihadist set and their eager leftist helpers you'll notice that none of them have the slightest interest in discussion. If anyone tries they gather around, chanting curses and insults at them.

No. I choose not to engage you because you don't engage honestly. I told you why i stopped engaging you on that. When polio & measles deaths go down by 98% BEFORE a vaccine is invented and you contend that the only reason deaths went down was 100% because of vaccine, you're either stoopid or pretending to be stoopid. If you wanna play stoopid, you play by yourself.