Question capitalism, Trudeau tells students

[Michael Bluth]

No disrespect taken. Having read your words again, I still think you are quite clearly acknowledging that the young demographic view the environment as a big issue. If Justin makes the environment a big issue, and you agree that the youth will embrace his views, it naturally follows that the youth also see the environment as a big issue. You know, if A = B, and B = C, then A = C.

Are youth embracing his views or his image?

[noahbody]

Well, I am using Justin's own word when I say that "rethinking" consumption and rejecting capitalism are not the same thing.

Nope. The article said he was "calling on them to rethink the capitalist system." No matter how you look at it, this means government intervention.

Second, the more you keep bring up the PET, the more you show exactly what you are accusing me of doing - and that's making up your mind simply based on your opinions of PET.

I'm condemning him on what he said. What he said makes the comparison warranted.

Thirdly, I find it interesting that you quote my taunting afterthought about Justin's looks as opposed to the crux of my argument, which was the suggestion that people are scared of him because he is in touch with the youth.

I would say we should be worried about him. If he did get in and tried to restrict capitalism in the oil market, the country would have a pretty big unity crisis to deal with.

Face it, no matter how much you disagree with new generation's ideas, they do care for the environment more than other demographics.

I agree with you on this. But I would add that the polls do reflect the attention the environment has been given in the media and entertainment. It's also reflective of people's need to belong. Now it's popular to have a social concious. This does fade. A not too bold prediction would be that health care will be the number one issue in 5 -10 years and the environment is on the back burner.

[BubberMiley]

Your right about it... this Trudeau, he reeks the definition of silver spoon socialist.

But at least he has the brains to question the status quo and present an argument without resorting to character assasination.

[Canuck E Stan]

But at least he has the brains to question the status quo and present an argument without resorting to character assasination.

Do you have proof he has brains to question anything?

Just give it time, and St. Justin will put both feet into that mouth of his... again, and Dion will have to put him in his place... again and probably....again after that.

This over sized ego really thinks he's smart enough to be PM.

[BubberMiley]

Do you have proof he has brains to question anything?

What kind of stupid question is that? He questions something, gets attacked for it, and you want proof he has the brains to question something. Man, this forum is going downhill fast.

[Michael Bluth]

Do you have proof he has brains to question anything?

Of course. He finished a BEd.

That's proof of a high degree of intelligence. For about 2/3rds of teachers. The smart ones know better...

[noahbody]

Your right about it... this Trudeau, he reeks the definition of silver spoon socialist.

But at least he has the brains to question the status quo and present an argument without resorting to character assasination.

Questioning the status quo is positive. But doing it doesn't necessarily demonstrate intelligence. Problem-solving, which often does make use this questioning, is a demonstration of intelligence. From a problem-solving perspective, his comments don't seem very bright or realistic.

[August1991]

Getting Justin cost this and other groups somewhere in the neighboourhood of $5,000-$7,000 plus expenses.

According to that website, he costs $10,000 to $20,000. You can get his mom for between $5,000 to $10,000.

[Canuck E Stan]

Getting Justin cost this and other groups somewhere in the neighboourhood of $5,000-$7,000 plus expenses.

According to that website, he costs $10,000 to $20,000. You can get his mom for between $5,000 to $10,000.

Doesn't surprise me.

They must have raised his fee since he became the Liberal wanna-be MP.

Not bad pay for an hour and a half of giving dramatic Hamlet- like speeches.

In fact, Hamlet's eulogy sounds a lot like Justin's speeches.

To be, or not to be: that is the question:

Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer

The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,

Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,

And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;

No more; and by a sleep to say we end

The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks

That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation

Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;

To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;

For in that sleep of death what dreams may come

When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,

Must give us pause: there's the respect

That makes calamity of so long life;

For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,

The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,

The pangs of despised love, the law's delay,

The insolence of office and the spurns

That patient merit of the unworthy takes,

When he himself might his quietus make

With a bare bodkin? who would fardels bear,

To grunt and sweat under a weary life,

But that the dread of something after death,

The undiscover'd country from whose bourn

No traveller returns, puzzles the will

And makes us rather bear those ills we have

Than fly to others that we know not of?

Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;

And thus the native hue of resolution

Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,

And enterprises of great pith and moment

With this regard their currents turn awry,

And lose the name of action. - Soft you now!

The fair Ophelia! Nymph, in thy orisons

Be all my sins remember'd.

Must be where he gets his inspiration.

[capricorn]

I agree with the sentiment expressed here that Justin questions many things but is short on solutions. I find this true of many academics.

I watched a couple of his addresses on YouTube. I was not impressed. Yet, I can see how young people would be mesmerized by this person. I think the fact he is PET's son has a lot to do with this idolization.

Whether Dion will clip his wings will be interesting to watch.

[geoffrey]

Your right about it... this Trudeau, he reeks the definition of silver spoon socialist.

But at least he has the brains to question the status quo and present an argument without resorting to character assasination.

He doesn't present any arguments other than university level wanna-be socialist debate points. Nothing in what was reporting of that speech warrants a response. Much of the article was about how sexy he was to the students and how they all wanted a picture. So ya, it's about personality, and I'll criticise that aspect.

Rethink capitalism! How original. I think I'm going to change everything about my life.

[Canuck E Stan]

I think I'm going to change everything about my life.

Good for you.

I'll look forward to your book about how you did it, and can't wait for your inspirational and motivational speaches.

May I recommend Speaker's Spotlight ,they can get you $10,000-$20,000 for a speaking engagement where you tell everyone about why money isn't important in life.

[geoffrey]

May I recommend Speaker's Spotlight ,they can get you $10,000-$20,000 for a speaking engagement where you tell everyone about why money isn't important in life.

Thanks for the recommendation. I'll make sure to pass on some of the millions to you for your help, all while teaching children they should ignore money and attempt to live a life of poverty.

I think it's nearly a cultist attitude to tell someone to abandon the quest for material wealth while being among the top couple percent of the wealthiest people in Canada. If a poor guy on the street came up and said, "hey man, your missing out, my life is care free and I enjoy each day starving in indignity." I might listen.

But a guy dressed in Armani driving an import telling me I should look for other things than money is a bit of a snake oil salesman, no?