Proud Canuck Posted December 18, 2006 Report Posted December 18, 2006 Would Americans care if Quebec separated from Canada? Quote
Proud Canuck Posted December 18, 2006 Author Report Posted December 18, 2006 Would Americans care if Quebec separated from Canada? Should Americans care if Quebec separated from Canada? Quote
ft.niagara Posted December 18, 2006 Report Posted December 18, 2006 I for one would feel awful about it. Wouldn't it separate your country, but then Alaska is separated from the lower 48. Quote
jbg Posted December 18, 2006 Report Posted December 18, 2006 Would Americans care if Quebec separated from Canada? Lack of access to Seaway might be a problem. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Remiel Posted December 18, 2006 Report Posted December 18, 2006 That goes both ways. Quebec wouldn't be shipping anything anywhere if the Gulf was blockaded. Quote
guyser Posted December 18, 2006 Report Posted December 18, 2006 I for one would feel awful about it. Wouldn't it separate your country, but then Alaska is separated from the lower 48. Might just be the death knell of this country if that ever came to fruition.It would in fact split our country in two and would create an isolation problem for Maritimers.Imagine what Quebec might want to do with the border and the scenario can be frightening. Lets keep it all together and happy ! Quote
ft.niagara Posted December 19, 2006 Report Posted December 19, 2006 Might just be the death knell of this country if that ever came to fruition.It would in fact split our country in two and would create an isolation problem for Maritimers.Imagine what Quebec might want to do with the border and the scenario can be frightening. Most likely it would not be the end of the country. Commerce would flow as before. Quebec is the isolated one. Quote
Wilber Posted December 19, 2006 Report Posted December 19, 2006 I for one would feel awful about it. Wouldn't it separate your country, but then Alaska is separated from the lower 48. Might just be the death knell of this country if that ever came to fruition.It would in fact split our country in two and would create an isolation problem for Maritimers.Imagine what Quebec might want to do with the border and the scenario can be frightening. Lets keep it all together and happy ! The possibilities are endless. The ROC might decide that it needs to keep the south shore (or part of it) for just that reason and be prepared to fight for it. The ROC might find the US much easier to deal with (none of the language and two solitudes nonsense to deal with any more) and Quebec would find it is the one that is isolated. Making changes to the Constitution might actually be possible. Who knows, once the cat is out of the bag, anything could happen and I don't see that it necessarily follows the ROC would be a big looser. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Liam Posted December 19, 2006 Report Posted December 19, 2006 I don't think the American public would be overly concerned with a separate Quebec. I think the US government, though, wouldn't really like the idea of two northern neighbors with gradually evolving domestic policies regarding drugs, immigration, prescription drugs, energy, taxes, etc. Quote
guyser Posted December 19, 2006 Report Posted December 19, 2006 I am not so sure Niagara that commerc would flow as before. There would surely be barriers put up to many transfers of goods. Because a separate nation would not have the Fed umbrella to work under , or provincial agreements in place if you will, some things could come to a screeching halt. Maybe Que wants tax money on good shipped thru the province. Maybe not. But the idea that all would be good I dont fell is valid. When they or if, separate, then the feds have to get their share of real property paid (of which there is tons) get their share of transfers stopped or paid back. Put it this way, I would easily envision a tit for tat mentality coming out. And the separation of our maritime brothers would be disastrous. Quote
White Doors Posted December 19, 2006 Report Posted December 19, 2006 As a Canadian I hope they do seperate. Would make the ROC a much better country. And if Canada is divisiable, then PQ certainly is. Give them a country about the size of NB on the north side of the St L. Quote Those Dern Rednecks done outfoxed the left wing again.~blueblood~
Riverwind Posted December 19, 2006 Report Posted December 19, 2006 As a Canadian I hope they do seperate. Would make the ROC a much better country. And if Canada is divisiable, then PQ certainly is. Give them a country about the size of NB on the north side of the St L.What I find most ironic about this debate is the Canadians who appear to 'support' Quebec seperation are also the same group of people who would likely give Quebec the hardest time on the way out. I wonder if seperatists have noticed this... Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
guyser Posted December 19, 2006 Report Posted December 19, 2006 As a Canadian I hope they do seperate. Would make the ROC a much better country. And if Canada is divisiable, then PQ certainly is. Give them a country about the size of NB on the north side of the St L. Obviously you have spent zero time considering the consequences. Quote
White Doors Posted December 20, 2006 Report Posted December 20, 2006 As a Canadian I hope they do seperate. Would make the ROC a much better country. And if Canada is divisiable, then PQ certainly is. Give them a country about the size of NB on the north side of the St L. Obviously you have spent zero time considering the consequences. Really? I have spent a life time with the consequencs that we face because they have NOT seperated. Who don't YOu tell us what would be so awful? Quote Those Dern Rednecks done outfoxed the left wing again.~blueblood~
jdobbin Posted December 20, 2006 Report Posted December 20, 2006 Really? I have spent a life time with the consequencs that we face because they have NOT seperated. Who don't YOu tell us what would be so awful? Civil war. Quote
White Doors Posted December 20, 2006 Report Posted December 20, 2006 As a Canadian I hope they do seperate. Would make the ROC a much better country. And if Canada is divisiable, then PQ certainly is. Give them a country about the size of NB on the north side of the St L.What I find most ironic about this debate is the Canadians who appear to 'support' Quebec seperation are also the same group of people who would likely give Quebec the hardest time on the way out. I wonder if seperatists have noticed this... A hard time? I'd like it to make it as easy as possible. Why would they think that seperation is only on their terms and consequence free? The typical PQ seperatists is living on another planet in terms of reality. A seperation would make them much more grounded out of necessity. Heck, I'd brush up on my French just to be able to watch the new replublics' nightly newscasts just for a larf or four. Quote Those Dern Rednecks done outfoxed the left wing again.~blueblood~
Leafless Posted December 20, 2006 Report Posted December 20, 2006 Really? I have spent a life time with the consequencs that we face because they have NOT seperated. Who don't YOu tell us what would be so awful? Civil war. Yes, I can see the cruise missiles being deployed against ROC by Quebec, LOL. I doubt very much any kind of civil war could ever develop simply because of U.S. interest in Canada and the security threat to the U.S. that would develop. If this ever did happened and the U.S was excluded from intervening which I doubt anyways, there possibly could be a U.S. takeover of Canada. Quote
jdobbin Posted December 20, 2006 Report Posted December 20, 2006 Yes, I can see the cruise missiles being deployed against ROC by Quebec, LOL. Actually, I was thinking more in the terms of violence of First Nations, attacks on English if they are resistant to Quebec making a break from Canada and assorted, escalating conflicts. You think separation will be a peaceful and uneventful thing? Has it ever been that way anywhere else in the world? Quote
Proud Canuck Posted December 20, 2006 Author Report Posted December 20, 2006 Yes, I can see the cruise missiles being deployed against ROC by Quebec, LOL. Actually, I was thinking more in the terms of violence of First Nations, attacks on English if they are resistant to Quebec making a break from Canada and assorted, escalating conflicts. You think separation will be a peaceful and uneventful thing? Has it ever been that way anywhere else in the world? There is also the possibility of attacks on francophones living outside of Quebec. Quote
jbg Posted December 20, 2006 Report Posted December 20, 2006 As a Canadian I hope they do seperate. Would make the ROC a much better country. And if Canada is divisiable, then PQ certainly is. Give them a country about the size of NB on the north side of the St L. Do you give them the area with the 10 CPC ridings? What about Montreal? Split that down the middle? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Charles Anthony Posted December 20, 2006 Report Posted December 20, 2006 Do you give them the area with the 10 CPC ridings? What about Montreal? Split that down the middle?It would probably be easier to let the people who live in those areas decide for themselves. Why should people outside of those areas be giving or taking anything? Quote We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
jdobbin Posted December 20, 2006 Report Posted December 20, 2006 There is also the possibility of attacks on francophones living outside of Quebec. Exactly. And violence amongst First Nations in opposition to what might be happening in Quebec as well. It is amazing how these things escalate. And then what happens is a police force untrained in handling an armed resistant group starts to fire and the firing doesn't stop even when people get killed. Sectarian violence has just begun. Quote
White Doors Posted December 20, 2006 Report Posted December 20, 2006 Really? I have spent a life time with the consequencs that we face because they have NOT seperated. Who don't YOu tell us what would be so awful? Civil war. Oh, well, thanks for sharing your PHD disertation. Quote Those Dern Rednecks done outfoxed the left wing again.~blueblood~
White Doors Posted December 20, 2006 Report Posted December 20, 2006 As a Canadian I hope they do seperate. Would make the ROC a much better country. And if Canada is divisiable, then PQ certainly is. Give them a country about the size of NB on the north side of the St L. Do you give them the area with the 10 CPC ridings? What about Montreal? Split that down the middle? Sure why not? The people can move that don't want to join the 'new republic'. The populations of NB and NS need a boost anyways. Quote Those Dern Rednecks done outfoxed the left wing again.~blueblood~
jdobbin Posted December 20, 2006 Report Posted December 20, 2006 Oh, well, thanks for your PHD disertation. I have written quite a bit on this elsewhere. There are several scenarios that could lead to fighting. Look at yourself now, you already are prepared to kill me based on saying that a civil war is possible. Quote
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