cybercoma Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 We've been through this before, the moderates are speaking up, just no one cares to listen. And maybe you need to familiarize yourself with Christianity's looooooooong history of violence. Think of the current 'problems' with Islam as payback. That's just a silly way of rationalizing irrational behaviour. I wasn't claiming Christianity is innocent, but in terms of degree, it goes without saying that Islam is brutally violent today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Google mass beheadings and guess what country pops up...Mexico Good point Bitsy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 That's just a silly way of rationalizing irrational behaviour. I wasn't claiming Christianity is innocent, but in terms of degree, it goes without saying that Islam is brutally violent today. Most of the fears of Islam are pretty irrational as well in my view. The mosque near ground zero is a prime example of those fears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Google mass beheadings and guess what country pops up...Mexico Yeah...drug cartels. Maybe you can provide evidence of religious conviction in the drug biz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 We've been through this before, the moderates are speaking up, just no one cares to listen. And maybe you need to familiarize yourself with Christianity's looooooooong history of violence. Think of the current 'problems' with Islam as payback. I don't agree that today's level of Islamic violence is acceptable because Christianity's mistakes in centuries past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitsy Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 (edited) Yeah...drug cartels. Maybe you can provide evidence of religious conviction in the drug biz. Mass beheadings are not mutually exclusive to a religion or a country as seemed to be indicated by you…sorry you can’t see that point. Edited February 28, 2011 by Bitsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Mass beheadings are not mutually exclusive to a religion or a country as seemed to be indicated by you…sorry you can’t see that point. What about suicide bombings? I haven't heard of Atheists blowing themselves up yet. Seems to be only Muslims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 What about suicide bombings? I haven't heard of Atheists blowing themselves up yet. Seems to be only Muslims. You also don't see atheists forming a cohesive group either. There is no atheist leader/preacher to tell us all what we should not believe in. The next terror attack in either Canada or the US won't be Muslims. I am about 90% sure of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitsy Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 What about suicide bombings? I haven't heard of Atheists blowing themselves up yet. Seems to be only Muslims. Suicide bombings weren’t asked to be explained away, only mass beheadings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouterjim Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Suicide bombings weren’t asked to be explained away, only mass beheadings. Suicide bombings were "popularized" by the Tamils in Sri Lanka. BTW, the Tamils involved were Hindu and Christian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 They're stopping people from murdering babies. It's good deed no matter who's name its done in. This kind of hyperbole is completely unnecessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Most of the fears of Islam are pretty irrational as well in my view. The mosque near ground zero is a prime example of those fears. That's true, but doesn't change the fact that there is a problem with extremism in Islam that is systemic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Mass beheadings are not mutually exclusive to a religion or a country as seemed to be indicated by you…sorry you can’t see that point. Then you'll have no problemo hanging with the Taliban and letting them know you're Canadian infidel. Plus, if you doubt the number of beheadings occuring...which it seems you do...because you can't find them on YouTube or in the MSM...I've got news for you. They aren't there. You need to go to other websites to see Islamic barbarism at its finest. Try theync, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitsy Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Then you'll have no problemo hanging with the Taliban and letting them know you're Canadian infidel. Plus, if you doubt the number of beheadings occuring...which it seems you do...because you can't find them on YouTube or in the MSM...I've got news for you. They aren't there. You need to go to other websites to see Islamic barbarism at its finest. Try theync, for example. I would not be hanging with the Taliban any more than I would be hanging with many of our radical right-wing Christian churches. I have a problemo hanging with any radical types, political, secular or religous. You said mass beheadings, you did not provide a number so I cannot agree or disagree with a number that I do not have. The website, theync , you suggested that shows the truth main stream will not show was nothing but a porn site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 I'd suggest a good ad blocker....but nahhhh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIP Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 BS...show me a Christian nut bar hacking off some poor slob's head with a dull knife. Can we count the "collateral damage" of civilians killed by U.S. drone attacks in Pakistan and Afghanistan? Or how about the crimes committed by U.S.-installed despots? If you are able to impose your empire, don't be shocked when asymmetrical warfare comes as a response! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Can we count the "collateral damage" of civilians killed by U.S. drone attacks in Pakistan and Afghanistan? Or how about the crimes committed by U.S.-installed despots? If you are able to impose your empire, don't be shocked when asymmetrical warfare comes as a response! Yeah right...most of the Taliban's beheadings are those who cooperate with the evil West. That's us...or at least, me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIP Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 We've been through this before, the moderates are speaking up, just no one cares to listen. And maybe you need to familiarize yourself with Christianity's looooooooong history of violence. Think of the current 'problems' with Islam as payback. Also, there is no way to make blanket comparisons between Christianity and Islam, since whatever good or bad these religions inspire are added to existing cultural and racial division that are already present, and would exist whether or not these two religious franchises arrived. In Nigeria for example, former U.S. Ambassador to Nigeria - John Campbell points out in an interview with Jay Ackroyd on Blogtalk Radio that in some regions of the country, there are no noteworthy problems among Christians and Muslims, such as in the Yoruba region, where there are no significant ethnic and economic divisions, and there is significant intermarriage between Christians and Muslims in this region. On the other hand, where there have been the worst fighting between Muslims and Christians is in regions like the northwest portion of Nigeria, where Fulani cattle herders are uniformly Muslim, while the smaller tribes surrounding them are Christian peasant farmers. So what is the root cause of the conflicts? Is it the tribal and economic divisions, or is it sectarian? My impression is that once again we are led to conclusions by outside onlookers who have neither the time nor the interest in developing a deeper understanding of issues that they feel free to offer opinions about. Campbell also points out that the campaign against witchcraft in the south during recent decades...which sounds strikingly similar to middle ages Europe...has virtually wiped out animism, or the traditional religions, since all of these traditions and practices (good and bad) can lead to burnings or some other method of execution for witchcraft. So, is Christianity still the superior religion than Islam? I think that just trying to make such a case encourages the most beligerent Christians, rather than give them a much needed dose of humility! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIP Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Yeah right...most of the Taliban's beheadings are those who cooperate with the evil West. That's us...or at least, me. Al Qaeda is in Pakistan, so why are U.S. and Canadian troops in Afghanistan again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Al Qaeda is in Pakistan, so why are U.S. and Canadian troops in Afghanistan again? Error! Does not follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIP Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 (edited) Error! Does not follow. I didn't have time to elaborate on the point that the Al Qaeda training bases and chemical labs have been gone from Afghanistan since the start of the War almost 10 years ago. The Bush Admin. deliberately left routes open for Bin Laden and his inner circle to escape to Pakistan...but that is a whole nother question....the reason why holding up stories about Taleban beheadings is nothing more than Neocon hypocrisy, is because indiscriminate aerial bombings that are killing hundreds of Afghan civilians in this so called - Surge Strategy, are not called terrorism. Afghan president warns Obama about civilian deaths If I was a Pashtun living in the village where nine boys who were out gathering firewood, were wiped out by American air forces who seem to be targeting everything that moves, I would consider that a more serious terrorist attack than Taleban guerillas invading and trying to take over my valley! At least the Taleban can be engaged by someone with a gun...but these drones and fighter planes that strafe and bomb these valleys, are forces that the locals cannot address.....or at least not until one of them finds an Al Qaeda recruiter and offers to strap on a bomb-belt and look for Americans to kill.....and then there will be those like you wondering 'what did we do to deserve these acts of barbarism!' Edited March 4, 2011 by WIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Also, there is no way to make blanket comparisons between Christianity and Islam, since whatever good or bad these religions inspire are added to existing cultural and racial division that are already present, and would exist whether or not these two religious franchises arrived. Why not, many here have made blanket statements about Islam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 I didn't have time to elaborate on the point that the Al Qaeda training bases and chemical labs have been gone from Afghanistan since the start of the War almost 10 years ago. The Bush Admin. deliberately left routes open for Bin Laden and his inner circle to escape to Pakistan...but that is a whole nother question....the reason why holding up stories about Taleban beheadings is nothing more than Neocon hypocrisy, is because indiscriminate aerial bombings that are killing hundreds of Afghan civilians in this so called - Surge Strategy, are not called terrorism. Afghan president warns Obama about civilian deaths If I was a Pashtun living in the village where nine boys who were out gathering firewood, were wiped out by American air forces who seem to be targeting everything that moves, I would consider that a more serious terrorist attack than Taleban guerillas invading and trying to take over my valley! At least the Taleban can be engaged by someone with a gun...but these drones and fighter planes that strafe and bomb these valleys, are forces that the locals cannot address.....or at least not until one of them finds an Al Qaeda recruiter and offers to strap on a bomb-belt and look for Americans to kill.....and then there will be those like you wondering 'what did we do to deserve these acts of barbarism!' Allahu Akbar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Why not, many here have made blanket statements about Islam. Islam = The Religion of Peace™® Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouterjim Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 Islam = The Religion of Peace™® Christianity is all about love and peace. Of course, both statements are wrong, because NEITHER faith is about peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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