Frankie Posted October 30, 2006 Report Posted October 30, 2006 If god were real, he/it/she/whatever woulld get it's/his/hers ass down here and straighten everything out dontcha think? I just wanted to say that this quote is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. If your implying that God himself should come down here to fix everything, then it's assumed that you believe he's real. If that's the case, then you're forgetting that God himself did come down to earth to fix our problems, multiple times, but we keep distorting and simply ignoring his teachings and laws. Like in the Old Testament, God himself walked through the garden of Eden to talk to Adam and Eve, and told them the one and only rule, not to eat the fruit. A couple thousand years later, God came down to Moses in spiritual form on the Mountain, and gave him the ten commandments and laws that should be followed. Over time, his laws became distorted. So he came one more time, and this time in physical human form to straighten us out one more time with his new teachings and the creation of the new testament. So...the bible is here...the laws are here...we just keep ignoring them and distorting them. What more can he do? Except come down again...one more time, which he said he would. So I guess you can wait for the next time around, but that just might be too late. We know he came before many times, and we know he straightened it out before...so what are we waiting for the follow him? Quote -Apple Scruff
Figleaf Posted October 30, 2006 Report Posted October 30, 2006 If god were real, he/it/she/whatever woulld get it's/his/hers ass down here and straighten everything out dontcha think? I just wanted to say that this quote is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. If your implying that God himself should come down here to fix everything, then it's assumed that you believe he's real. If that's the case, then you're forgetting that God himself did come down to earth to fix our problems, multiple times, but we keep distorting and simply ignoring his teachings and laws. Like in the Old Testament, God himself walked through the garden of Eden to talk to Adam and Eve, and told them the one and only rule, not to eat the fruit. A couple thousand years later, God came down to Moses in spiritual form on the Mountain, and gave him the ten commandments and laws that should be followed. Over time, his laws became distorted. So he came one more time, and this time in physical human form to straighten us out one more time with his new teachings and the creation of the new testament. So...the bible is here...the laws are here...we just keep ignoring them and distorting them. What more can he do? Except come down again...one more time, which he said he would. So I guess you can wait for the next time around, but that just might be too late. We know he came before many times, and we know he straightened it out before...so what are we waiting for the follow him? If 'God' were all he's cracked up to be, you'd think he could: -make rules clear enough that there's no doubt about how to enforce them; -create people smart enough to know what he meant; -create people good enough to follow his commands reliably; -come down often enough to keep us on the right path; and/or -dis-create bad s*it. Quote
Drea Posted October 30, 2006 Report Posted October 30, 2006 If god were real, he/it/she/whatever woulld get it's/his/hers ass down here and straighten everything out dontcha think? I just wanted to say that this quote is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. If your implying that God himself should come down here to fix everything, then it's assumed that you believe he's real. we Yes, you are entitled to your opinion. No need to call my opinion ridiculous. My opinion is that there is no such thing as a "god". Humans invented the notion of god to help them because darn it, life is sometimes tough -- so tough that we humans need to believe there is a someone who will take care of us. IF gods were "real" then he/she/it/they would be intelligent enough to know that her/his/its/they were no longer being "believed in". Hey if I had an ant farm and I created their whole little world and wanted them to *worship me, I certainly would show my face at least once per generation. I would not expect my little ants to believe a book written by other ants. *How big an ego does an entity have to need to be "worshipped"? God sounds like a mafia boss! Quote ...jealous much? Booga Booga! Hee Hee Hee
leonardcohen Posted October 30, 2006 Report Posted October 30, 2006 If god were real, he/it/she/whatever woulld get it's/his/hers ass down here and straighten everything out dontcha think? I just wanted to say that this quote is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. If your implying that God himself should come down here to fix everything, then it's assumed that you believe he's real. we Yes, you are entitled to your opinion. No need to call my opinion ridiculous. My opinion is that there is no such thing as a "god". Humans invented the notion of god to help them because darn it, life is sometimes tough -- so tough that we humans need to believe there is a someone who will take care of us. IF gods were "real" then he/she/it/they would be intelligent enough to know that her/his/its/they were no longer being "believed in". Hey if I had an ant farm and I created their whole little world and wanted them to *worship me, I certainly would show my face at least once per generation. I would not expect my little ants to believe a book written by other ants. *How big an ego does an entity have to need to be "worshipped"? God sounds like a mafia boss! We have free choice,why should God shield us from the consequences of our actions. Why do people who don't believe in the existence of a higher being seem to feel an obligation to mock those who do? I don't mock people who believe differently than myself. Quote Whatever Thy Hand Finds To Do- Do With All Thy Might!
Figleaf Posted October 30, 2006 Report Posted October 30, 2006 We have free choice,why should God shield us from the consequences of our actions. Because he is purported to want particular outcomes, and because he is purported have immense wisdom and capabilities to obtain those outcomes. Quote
Leafless Posted October 30, 2006 Report Posted October 30, 2006 If god were real, he/it/she/whatever woulld get it's/his/hers ass down here and straighten everything out dontcha think? God did straighten us out initially when he kicked Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden to face all the miseries earth has to offer. Quote
Figleaf Posted October 30, 2006 Report Posted October 30, 2006 If god were real, he/it/she/whatever woulld get it's/his/hers ass down here and straighten everything out dontcha think? God did straighten us out initially when he kicked Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden to face all the miseries earth has to offer. You call that 'straightening out'?? Quote
scribblet Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 Dear God: Why didn't you save the school children at ?. .. Moses Lake, Washington 2/2/96 Bethel, Alaska 2/19/97 Pearl, Mississippi 10/1/97 West Paducah, Kentucky 12/1/97 Stamp, Arkansas 12/15/97 Jonesboro, Arkansas 3/24/98 Edinboro, Pennsylvania 4/24/98 Fayetteville, Tennessee 5/19/98 Springfield, Oregon 5/21/98 Richmond, Virginia 6/15/98 Littleton, Colorado 4/20/99 Taber, Alberta, Canada 5/28/99 Conyers, Georgia 5/20/99 Deming, New Mexico 11/19/99 Fort Gibson, Oklahoma 12/6/99 Santee, California 3/ 5/01 and El Cajon, California 3/22/01? Sincerely, Concerned Student ----------------------------------------------------- Reply: Dear Concerned Student: Sorry, I am not allowed in schools! Sincerely, God Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Drea Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 ...and the responsibility for this lies directly on the shoulders of those dead kids... NOT! .... or wait -- their parents because they voted to have the Lord's prayer taken out of schools.. ... but wait -- what about those who pray to Allah and have died? Would the Lord's prayer have helped them? Funny how when a non believer gets called ridiculous, s'okay... when clearly the poster is "knocking" my non belief... So, it's ok to bash an agnostic or atheist, but not someone who believes in an invisible dad? Quote ...jealous much? Booga Booga! Hee Hee Hee
geoffrey Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 ...and the responsibility for this lies directly on the shoulders of those dead kids... NOT!.... or wait -- their parents because they voted to have the Lord's prayer taken out of schools.. ... but wait -- what about those who pray to Allah and have died? Would the Lord's prayer have helped them? Funny how when a non believer gets called ridiculous, s'okay... when clearly the poster is "knocking" my non belief... So, it's ok to bash an agnostic or atheist, but not someone who believes in an invisible dad? Hmm... if you left out the last 2 words you would have had my support. I don't think it's fair for Christians to be condemning the non-believers, it's their choice, as it's ours to follow our religion. I also don't think religion in schools would have prevented those incedents. Since this is in the moral and religious issues forum I will elaborate more so than elsewhere here. God isn't about intervening in our affairs on a regular basis... if God bailed us out at every corner, there would be no self-determination, no consequence for our negative actions, no feeling of success for our positive ones. As well, I'm not in favour of religion in public schools either to begin with. Schools are for learning, Churches are for praying. No need to mix that up. Both should respect each other's domain. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
betsy Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 ...and the responsibility for this lies directly on the shoulders of those dead kids... NOT!.... or wait -- their parents because they voted to have the Lord's prayer taken out of schools.. ... but wait -- what about those who pray to Allah and have died? Would the Lord's prayer have helped them? Funny how when a non believer gets called ridiculous, s'okay... when clearly the poster is "knocking" my non belief... So, it's ok to bash an agnostic or atheist, but not someone who believes in an invisible dad? Funny, but I thought today's Feminism is a religion. Isn't it? I could swear the blind faith their followers show would rival that of any Christian...or Muslim zealot. It just shows you....we all need to believe in something. For us Christians, it's Jesus....for Muslims, it's Allah...for the atheist, it's Nothing...etc., Quote
Figleaf Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 ....we all need to believe in something...for the atheist, it's Nothing...[italics added] Do you have no idea how silly that comment is? Quote
Leafless Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 ....we all need to believe in something...for the atheist, it's Nothing... [italics added] Do you have no idea how silly that comment is? No sillier than the expression on the face of an atheist when confronted with a question that defies logic. Quote
Black Dog Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 It just shows you....we all need to believe in something. For us Christians, it's Jesus....for Muslims, it's Allah...for the atheist, it's Nothing...etc., Atheists don't belive in nothing: that would be nihilists. Atheists simply don't belive in God or any other supreme being. No sillier than the expression on the face of an atheist when confronted with a question that defies logic. Such as what? "How do they get the caramel inside a Caramilk bar?" Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
DarkAngel_ Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 How fun, what of these men speak of gods and not of men, how is it you have come to this, that god is to fix as if we are broken, do you not trust the thinker? That finds all knowledge and thinks, is he a fast thief or lire? Is he which says the universe was made billions of years ago, and does he who says the earth is round or that the earth in not the center of the universe... broken? Are we not the best of ourselves in that flexibility? I see cold men they are as white sand and salt to my wound, of this god does and is as those men, a phantasm and monstrosity. Did he not say we are made in his image? then he might himself be suffering like us, before us, and is imperfect, and hence made us to see us laugh and cry so that he could forget himself, then god is like a suffering child and we his toy. Or is it that we ARE god, and we created him in our image of morality, that is to the thinker, a possibility. But do you have such blind faith that not a man or women is good enough, that you are tired of man and his imperfections? We are here to be our selves and of strong to fierce to child we must become to be released from your pride, that the culture you cling to will then turn into history. and we can move forward, call to your god, tell him you have SEEN him come, or believe in faith what books made by men who know nothing of our magic’s that today is not called magic, that you where raised from child to find these things around you, do you call the makers of these magic’s witches and devils? Is it not that part of your book is ignored or denied? What of your chivalry? Where did it go with your children? What is it, those devils? then of this no man can or should say, let things come and be, not be prophesized in fires of gay, and rings of false gold. this of man your leaders wish to fix, death of all will NEVER be acceptable, so the wars those of that faith see in visions shall NOT happen, for if they do, we as men will destroy ourselves, with weapons of gods. So in your believe I respect and as this I took offence to you saying broken, is wrong. Prove me that without words and I’ll give you that argument. that is an atheists logic, or mine at least and it is humankind I believe in, so now what of logic would you know of man. Quote men of freedom walk with guns in broad daylight, and as the weak are killed freedom becomes nothing but a dream...
Leafless Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 God is alien. How about, WE ALL ARE ALIENS! Quote
DarkAngel_ Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 God is alien. How about, WE ALL ARE ALIENS! how can an alien be not an alien to an alien, he cannot so we are all alien to one another, i do agree. but i think we have our own choices so whatever 'it' may be, we are here and without proof to the super divine, so shall we rest this at that? Quote men of freedom walk with guns in broad daylight, and as the weak are killed freedom becomes nothing but a dream...
DarkAngel_ Posted November 1, 2006 Report Posted November 1, 2006 Adjective. did you know that word meant "to throw" at 1 time? Quote men of freedom walk with guns in broad daylight, and as the weak are killed freedom becomes nothing but a dream...
Remiel Posted November 1, 2006 Report Posted November 1, 2006 I think perhaps you mean that the root of the word " adjective " means to throw, so O.K. Quote
DarkAngel_ Posted November 3, 2006 Report Posted November 3, 2006 I think perhaps you mean that the root of the word " adjective " means to throw, so O.K. so what did it mean as a reply? Quote men of freedom walk with guns in broad daylight, and as the weak are killed freedom becomes nothing but a dream...
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