Prejudice against women

[margrace]

In reading the posts on here especially about US soldiers committing rape and sexist rants about Belinda Stronack, I would like to challenge the strong, rightious men on here to read Victor Malecks book called The Natasha's, the global sex trade and who is involved.

This is a world wide problem and the internet has made it very profitable for government officials of all countries who either profit from this or condone it. Please read the book and then lets here your opinions.

[Guest Warwick Green]

In reading the posts on here especially about US soldiers committing rape and sexist rants about Belinda Stronack, I would like to challenge the strong, rightious men on here to read Victor Malecks book called The Natasha's, the global sex trade and who is involved.

This is a world wide problem and the internet has made it very profitable for government officials of all countries who either profit from this or condone it. Please read the book and then lets here your opinions.

There is a huge difference between an (alleged) juvenile remark in the House of Commoms and rape and sexual slavery.

[northstar]

There is a huge difference between an (alleged) juvenile remark in the House of Commoms and rape and sexual slavery

I disagree, it is an important point and one that shouldn't be swept under the carpet. Women and children are still being treated as second class citizens.

This is unacceptable behaviour and will not be tolerated!

It is not alleged, as there is a tape of what he said, and it is more than juvenile, it is discrimination. The cost of such intolerance and discrimination is going to be every woman in the country voting for The parties of these two women.

If you just sweep it under the table with such a down-playing statement you are in the same catagory as the sexist jerk who made these discriminatory comments.

[northstar]

In regard of women being discriminated against it is indeed world wide and l thnk you for bringing it to the forum. This is a vital issue in that it is linked with assorted sex crimes against children, and in not addressing the issue, it continues.

The FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION is one such crime against children and women worldwide and primarily found in Islamic -based cultures. This is a disgusting practice that is traumatic and sometimes leads to complications and death.

The lastest Stats are 160 million women world wide, the majority being Muslim.

[Wilber]

There is a huge difference between an (alleged) juvenile remark in the House of Commoms and rape and sexual slavery

I disagree, it is an important point and one that shouldn't be swept under the carpet. Women and children are still being treated as second class citizens.

This is unacceptable behaviour and will not be tolerated!

It is not alleged, as there is a tape of what he said, and it is more than juvenile, it is discrimination. The cost of such intolerance and discrimination is going to be every woman in the country voting for The parties of these two women.

If you just sweep it under the table with such a down-playing statement you are in the same catagory as the sexist jerk who made these discriminatory comments.

Horse Pucky.

Comparing an inane remark made in the Commons, the source of countless inane remarks on a daily basis with slavery and mutilation belittles those who really suffer. People who would draw that comparison are using the suffering of real victims to promote their own agenda.

Mrs Stronach is a billionaire who chose to join an institution which makes nonsense an art form. She is not a victim.

[Guest Warwick Green]

There is a huge difference between an (alleged) juvenile remark in the House of Commoms and rape and sexual slavery

I disagree, it is an important point and one that shouldn't be swept under the carpet. Women and children are still being treated as second class citizens.

This is unacceptable behaviour and will not be tolerated!

It is not alleged, as there is a tape of what he said, and it is more than juvenile, it is discrimination. The cost of such intolerance and discrimination is going to be every woman in the country voting for The parties of these two women.

If you just sweep it under the table with such a down-playing statement you are in the same catagory as the sexist jerk who made these discriminatory comments.

In one case an apology is in order. On the other hand sex slavery in some places will get you the death penalty.

Let's not confuse stupidity with real violence against women.

[margrace]

There is a huge difference between an (alleged) juvenile remark in the House of Commoms and rape and sexual slavery

I disagree, it is an important point and one that shouldn't be swept under the carpet. Women and children are still being treated as second class citizens.

This is unacceptable behaviour and will not be tolerated!

It is not alleged, as there is a tape of what he said, and it is more than juvenile, it is discrimination. The cost of such intolerance and discrimination is going to be every woman in the country voting for The parties of these two women.

If you just sweep it under the table with such a down-playing statement you are in the same catagory as the sexist jerk who made these discriminatory comments.

In one case an apology is in order. On the other hand sex slavery in some places will get you the death penalty.

Let's not confuse stupidity with real violence against women.

You Men just don't get it. When the fact that so many women were being abused by their husband some years ago, the men if our Canadia Pariliament laughted. Qny put down to women is an example of the strength of this prejudice agaisnt them. Jokes and sly remarks are a very revealing fact of the extent of this type of action.

[sharkman]

You old school feminists just don't get it. Women have equality today. Some crime sex slave racket doesn't change that. They sell little boys for sex as well. That you only defend women shows your prejudice.

[Wilber]

Qny put down to women is an example of the strength of this prejudice agaisnt them. Jokes and sly remarks are a very revealing fact of the extent of this type of action.

I take it then that it is OK to put down someone of your own sex in this matter but not someone of the opposite sex.

What if they really just don't like each other? Do they have to be civil only because they are not of the same sex?

[Guest Warwick Green]

You Men just don't get it. When the fact that so many women were being abused by their husband some years ago, the men if our Canadia Pariliament laughted. Qny put down to women is an example of the strength of this prejudice agaisnt them. Jokes and sly remarks are a very revealing fact of the extent of this type of action.

By all means MacKay should apologize if conclusive proof is shown that he acted like an asshole. And yes, let's make sure the societal violence is taught in school and prohibited in the workplace. No problem with that at all.

[Ladyjen]

If an ordinary male public employee made a remark like that in regards to another employee he could very well be fired. So why do we have to tolerate this behaviour at the highest levels of Government? I say kick their asses out in the next election and 50% of the Canadian population may just have a big say in that. Smart mouthed jerk!

[Wilber]

If an ordinary male public employee made a remark like that in regards to another employee he could very well be fired. So why do we have to tolerate this behaviour at the highest levels of Government? I say kick their asses out in the next election and 50% of the Canadian population may just have a big say in that. Smart mouthed jerk!

Why only an ordinary male? If you want real equality you can't set different standards of behavior for different genders. That is not equality.

[betsy]

There is a huge difference between an (alleged) juvenile remark in the House of Commoms and rape and sexual slavery

I disagree, it is an important point and one that shouldn't be swept under the carpet. Women and children are still being treated as second class citizens.

This is unacceptable behaviour and will not be tolerated!

It is not alleged, as there is a tape of what he said, and it is more than juvenile, it is discrimination. The cost of such intolerance and discrimination is going to be every woman in the country voting for The parties of these two women.

If you just sweep it under the table with such a down-playing statement you are in the same catagory as the sexist jerk who made these discriminatory comments.

Well, if you are equating rape and slavery to that of a juvenile remark....aren't you the one who's down-playing the gravity of rape and slavery?

Sorry, but I find rape and slavery quite, quite serious. Something you cannot simply ignore...unlike everyday jerks who'd developed the habit of making "sexist" references as one crude bloke would just as easily spit in public while grabbing his crotch.

[betsy]

If an ordinary male public employee made a remark like that in regards to another employee he could very well be fired. So why do we have to tolerate this behaviour at the highest levels of Government? I say kick their asses out in the next election and 50% of the Canadian population may just have a big say in that. Smart mouthed jerk!

On Question Period with Jane Taber and Oliver Craig today, apparently Rona Ambrose is demanding an apology from a Liberal MP who'd also called her a name. Helena Guergis is asking how come Belinda Stronach is not speaking for both women (she and Ambrose)...when both had been insulted by male colleagues.

[betsy]

Jokes and sly remarks are a very revealing fact of the extent of this type of action.

C'mon Margrace...be honest and admit it. Sexist remarks are being made by both males and females.

Put down remarks as well.

I had a couple who used to come to pick up their kid together. The woman almost, always never fail to make fun of her husband in a derogatory way to us...from how much he earns to his ability around the house. The poor husband just had to grin and bear this "jokes" about him.

Needless to say, they are now divorced....the husband left her for her bestfriend.

I have nothing against women empowerment at all, however the odd thing about some modern women today who'd embraced "empowerment" is just how insensitive and offensive they'd become. It seems empowerment to them means "now it's my turn to step on you men!"

I wonder at times if they do carry big chips on their shoulders.

So much anger and virulent animosity emanating....

[betsy]

You old school feminists just don't get it. Women have equality today. Some crime sex slave racket doesn't change that. They sell little boys for sex as well. That you only defend women shows your prejudice.

Somewhere in Africa, they sell men too! I remember a Christian movement a few years back trying to buy back the freedom of those enslaved people. These flesh peddlers are criminals of the worst kind!

Perhaps Margrace should ask the Liberal appointees in immigration how come female strippers are being allowed pronto in Canada? Isn't that considered degrading and sexist by feminist?

[betsy]

I've had several experiences of sexual harrassment from University to various jobs that I'd held....but I must say that never was I forced to compromise myself nor give in for something in return.

Boy, I tell you...it feels so good putting one over those bastards....and knowing that they know they'd been had.

So why do I defend men from sweeping male-bashing?

Because I've also met a lot of good guys from university to the various jobs that I'd held....guys who'd felt compelled to try and protect me. Some of these men helped me deal with those bastards mentioned above. And they asked for nothing in return. I guess some men have this man-thing that makes them feel that they need to protect or shield a woman. Hey, I find nothing wrong with that. You won't hear me complaining.

Some of my treasured friendships were with men. Straight men. Purely platonic. I've met their various girlfriends through the years.

[northstar]

Just be grateful you are not Muslim, Wife beating is supported by Holy Scriptures and when you go into paradise men can have any type of virgins, Young VIRGINAL boys are waiting in Allah's heaven, as stated in the Quran . This is the underlying problem in the Middle EAST, a religon that supports such barbaric treatment of women and children.

Fortunately for us, with all the suicide bombers they are reporting to be fresh out...........

[northstar]

Just be grateful you are not Muslim, Wife beating is supported by Holy Scriptures and when you go into paradise men can have any type of virgins, Young VIRGINAL boys are waiting in Allah's heaven, as stated in the Quran . This is the underlying problem in the Middle EAST, a religon that supports such barbaric treatment of women and children.

Fortunately for us, with all the suicide bombers they are reporting to be fresh out...........

[betsy]

In regard of women being discriminated against it is indeed world wide and l thnk you for bringing it to the forum. This is a vital issue in that it is linked with assorted sex crimes against children, and in not addressing the issue, it continues.

The FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION is one such crime against children and women worldwide and primarily found in Islamic -based cultures. This is a disgusting practice that is traumatic and sometimes leads to complications and death.

The lastest Stats are 160 million women world wide, the majority being Muslim.

I've read of genital mutilations.

But, some would argue that this is a cultural thing among Islamic-based countries....and that there is nothing barbaric or wrong about it. In fact, we'd be the ones who'd be called meddling conflict-seekers if we try to impose our belief or culture on those from other countries. And some women from that culture have no problems with that.

So what do you suggest we should do?

[betsy]

Just be grateful you are not Muslim, Wife beating is supported by Holy Scriptures and when you go into paradise men can have any type of virgins, Young VIRGINAL boys are waiting in Allah's heaven, as stated in the Quran . This is the underlying problem in the Middle EAST, a religon that supports such barbaric treatment of women and children.

Fortunately for us, with all the suicide bombers they are reporting to be fresh out...........

Yes. We are fortunate that we do not live in such kind of cultures. Although....for some Muslim women, living in the west may not necessarily mean no longer having to deal with that kind of barbarism. Our liberal society seems to be determined to bend backward and had chosen to ignore the very thing they've been criticizing....that of inequality among women.....happening right in their own backyard.

There is some serious reason to suspect that sharia law is indeed here in Canada ....and being practiced.

And yet these feminists are crucifying men for sexist jokes and put down remarks....what a load of c***.

No wonder women are not being taken seriously when they have something to say. No wonder women are jokingly said to be "petty-minded" airheads.

It's because of these blasted confused feminists!

And yes I'm angry. Because these airheads are purporting to be speaking for me!

So all these incessant battle cry about prejudice against women....here is what I think of it....pfffft.

[betsy]

In reading the posts on here especially about US soldiers committing rape and sexist rants about Belinda Stronack, I would like to challenge the strong, rightious men on here to read Victor Malecks book called The Natasha's, the global sex trade and who is involved.

Maybe you should send a copy of said book to Stronach...so she can stop yapping her pretty little head about an apology over a put-down remark from an obviously still-sore ex-lover...and move on.

She should also try to find some nice excuses to justify why she is a walking contradiction to her crusade against sexist attitudes against women. Perhaps a good start would be to demand an apology for Rona Ambrose as well, a female colleague facing what Stronach had described as the cold reality of dealing with men in politics.

Then she can apologise to women in general for being a sorry role model that she is, pandering to the sexist attitude of a married man....and she should just admit that, like McKay...she's also only human.

Then while we're on a roll here....we should send copies of that book to all Liberals and NDP MPs...so they can stop wasting tax dollars by spending what precious time there is to argue about more important matters: like maybe the genital mutilation of women. Or soldiers committing rape? the global sex trade? Reviewing Immigration policies? Strippers or doctors? Or how to stop corruption in politics? Abuses by Refugee board members...especially political appointees? or what to do about the Senate...especially political appointees? etc..,

[M.Dancer]

Women have equality today.

Guess what you are showing......

[margrace]

In reading the posts on here especially about US soldiers committing rape and sexist rants about Belinda Stronack, I would like to challenge the strong, rightious men on here to read Victor Malecks book called The Natasha's, the global sex trade and who is involved.

Maybe you should send a copy of said book to Stronach...so she can stop yapping her pretty little head about an apology over a put-down remark from an obviously still-sore ex-lover...and move on.

She should also try to find some nice excuses to justify why she is a walking contradiction to her crusade against sexist attitudes against women. Perhaps a good start would be to demand an apology for Rona Ambrose as well, a female colleague facing what Stronach had described as the cold reality of dealing with men in politics.

Then she can apologise to women in general for being a sorry role model that she is, pandering to the sexist attitude of a married man....and she should just admit that, like McKay...she's also only human.

Then while we're on a roll here....we should send copies of that book to all Liberals and NDP MPs...so they can stop wasting tax dollars by spending what precious time there is to argue about more important matters: like maybe the genital mutilation of women. Or soldiers committing rape? the global sex trade? Reviewing Immigration policies? Strippers or doctors? Or how to stop corruption in politics? Abuses by Refugee board members...especially political appointees? or what to do about the Senate...especially political appointees? etc..,

So has anyone commenting on here actually read the book? I think not, it might upset your preconcieved Ideas of discrimination of women. There are sex slaves on the streets of Toronto, which might make a difference if any of you cared.

The worst type of sexual discrimination often comes from women, I hear it on here.

[Wilber]

People who victimize others who are weaker and cannot defend themselves should be horse whipped, gender should have nothing to do with it.