Jon-Benet Ramsey Arrest

[Law and Order Forever]

I was just reading about the arrest in Thailand of a suspect in the murder of Jon-Benet Ramsey case from almost 10 years ago,Geez was it that long ago?,and you could have knocked me over with a feather.I had the father as a pedophile and the mother as an unwilling conspirator and put down they're not being charged in the case as a massively bungled police investigation.Man,if this turns out a righteous arrest i am guilty of swallowing hook,line and sinker the medias' assertion that the parents were guilty from the get go.I believed the media slant.Man I feel Stupid. :angry: Anybody else feel similarily duped?

[Melanie_]

There's still the question of whether this "confession" is valid, or whether this guy is just some crazy nutjob trying to get his name linked to a notorious case.

[betsy]

I was just reading about the arrest in Thailand of a suspect in the murder of Jon-Benet Ramsey case from almost 10 years ago,Geez was it that long ago?,and you could have knocked me over with a feather.I had the father as a pedophile and the mother as an unwilling conspirator and put down they're not being charged in the case as a massively bungled police investigation.Man,if this turns out a righteous arrest i am guilty of swallowing hook,line and sinker the medias' assertion that the parents were guilty from the get go.I believed the media slant.Man I feel Stupid. :angry: Anybody else feel similarily duped?

I feel bad too.

The poor couple had been crucified all over the media.

[Black Dog]

I feel bad that people give a shit.

[kimmy]

I feel bad that people give a shit.

I feel the same way.

Of all the hundreds or thousands of dead or missing kids, what's so special about this particular one? Why is she famous while the rest of them aren't?

Is it because her parents had her parade around on stage looking like the world's youngest prostitute? The beauty-pageant footage and sexualized glamour photos of this 6-year old add an element to the story that would nauseate and aggravate any normal person, which I suppose could have contributed to the infamy of the case.

Or is it just that her family's rich and white? I dunno.

I just find the media's fascination with dead blondes to be creepy and loathesome. How is it that the girl who vanished in Aruba came to be considered an ENTERTAINMENT story? Why were the latest updates of the Natalie Holloway case on those Access Hollywood type shows, sandwiched between movie previews and interviews with D-list celebrities? What the fuck? Who are these fuckwits?

It's disgusting.

-k

[Black Dog]

Kimmy: don't hold back, tell us how you really feel.

ps: don't ever change.

[Live From China]

I'm with you kimmy. Why has this case drawn so much attention, given all the other cases that we know of?

And: I don't think the guy they have arrested did it. I was once astounded by how many people "confess" to murders they didn't commit.

[geoffrey]

Exactly, there are far more tradgic events daily, it's really not much beside a rich kid getting the front page.

I am glad to see however, if this pans out, one more pedophile that will be brought to justice.

[Live From China]

At the risk of sounding politically incorrect, I found this story boring. And I continue to find it boring.

I was the same with the death of Princess Diana. All I could say was, "Oh no, now were going to have to hear about this ad infinitum, ad nauseam!"

I just do not understand why the Benet-Ramsey story has attracted so much attention.

[geoffrey]

Well Live from China, because the media wanted it to generate so much interest.

95% of TV watchers are just braindead idiots, and a good story makes news media money. Why not? It's easy to convince people a story is important when really it's just an everyday occurance.

[kimmy]

During a commercial break in last night's football game, I was flipping channels and noticed that Access Hollywood was, indeed, reporting on the latest news of this character's arrest, interspersed of course with glam shots of J.Ramsey dressed up like a cheap hooker. Access Hollywood. This segment, J.Ramsey murder, next segment was that some adolescent girl won America's Got Talent or whatever it was called.

Honestly, I would love to sit down with the producer of one of these shows and ask them to explain it to me.

"Your program is an entertainment show. You interview celebrities, you preview movies and TV shows, and you provide news and gossip from the world of entertainment. How does the JonBenet murder fit in with this theme? Do you consider murder of children to be an entertainment item? Do you consider pedophilia to be an entertainment-related subject? Look at me when I'm talking to you. Do you consider this entertaining? Does your audience consider this entertaining? Answer me, fuck-face! How do you sleep at night? Would it be ok if I kick you in the genitals really hard?"

-k

[Live From China]

Well said, kimmy!

Murder, pedophilia as entertainment? God, help us!

To change course slightly, what I can't "wrap my head around" are those shows (and, yes, I watch one but only one - upon someone's recommendation; and I should have known better) where a bunch of couples go to an island or some such isolated venue and then there is all this cheating and backstabbing. One by one, people are voted off the island. The winner, the last person remaining, got a cheque for $250,000.

What really astounded me though was that one of the people said, "John (or whatever his name is), you really earned this!" Earned? To me that implies that John produced something of value, i.e., built a house, cured a sick person, taught a class, etc. No such thing happened! And, worse, even though the show claims these people are stockbrokers, lawyers, graduate students, and the like, they behave like nitpicking, vindictive, snotty, vengeful junior high school airheads!

I think the producers may be having us on. I wonder if the said people are simply actors.

[August1991]

Well said, kimmy!

Murder, pedophilia as entertainment? God, help us!

Uh, like reports of war in Lebanon?

What really astounded me though was that one of the people said, "John (or whatever his name is), you really earned this!" Earned? To me that implies that John produced something of value, i.e., built a house, cured a sick person, taught a class, etc. No such thing happened!

Uh, he produced entertainment. People fork over lots of money to be amused. In some ways, entertainment is the purpose of life.

As to this murder case, I can understand the attraction. Young girl from rich family is killed under mysterious circumstances. That's much more intriguing than an AIDS conference in Toronto. (Most boring headline: Canada Proposes Policy.)

There is something vaguely hypocritical/ironic about people who watch American TV shows and laugh at the stupid people who watch such TV shows.

[Live From China]

I don't think one is hypocritical if they watch one show to find out what it is about. Different story if you watch "a steady diet" and then complain. Sort of like watching a football game for the first time to see what it is about and then saying you don't like football.

[Gowch]

Well Live from China, because the media wanted it to generate so much interest.

95% of TV watchers are just braindead idiots, and a good story makes news media money. Why not? It's easy to convince people a story is important when really it's just an everyday occurance.

"Everyday occurrence?" You're joking, right?

Cutie-pie-award-winning, blond girlchild is ravaged and killed in circumstances that leave little doubt that her killer is a member of her own wealthy family. Family members behave bizarrely, refusing to co-operate with authorities, hiring spin doctors and leading a media blitz during which they meet more often with Larry King than with police investigators. With the crime scene contaminated (by a family member) and the only witnesses to the crime being family members who have circled the wagons, the cops are stymied and eventually abandon the hunt, leaving the murder of a six-year-old girl unsolved, an apparent perfect crime.

Everyday occurrence? I think not.

-IG

[geoffrey]

I prefer my drama from situations that don't have real-life destroying impacts on otherwise innocent people. The media destroyed the Ramsay family, clouded them with suspicious, all to make a buck.

The fact you get your entertainment, or find these things interesting is somewhat scary.

I don't personally get too much enjoyment or fascination with watching lives be destroyed.

[Law and Order Forever]

Well Live from China, because the media wanted it to generate so much interest.

95% of TV watchers are just braindead idiots, and a good story makes news media money. Why not? It's easy to convince people a story is important when really it's just an everyday occurance.

"Everyday occurrence?" You're joking, right?

Cutie-pie-award-winning, blond girlchild is ravaged and killed in circumstances that leave little doubt that her killer is a member of her own wealthy family. Family members behave bizarrely, refusing to co-operate with authorities, hiring spin doctors and leading a media blitz during which they meet more often with Larry King than with police investigators. With the crime scene contaminated (by a family member) and the only witnesses to the crime being family members who have circled the wagons, the cops are stymied and eventually abandon the hunt, leaving the murder of a six-year-old girl unsolved, an apparent perfect crime.

Everyday occurrence? I think not.

The assertion for his arrest is that he supposedly revealed details about the case that were not initially released to the public.Time will tell whether he is just another publicity seeking perv or if he is the final chapter of this bizarre and convoluted case

-IG

[geoffrey]

Ok, I'll start caring more about some people because they have more money and it could be the basis of a four star thriller.

That attitude makes me sick.

[Black Dog]

Report: Karr's DNA doesn't match; No charges to be filed

The DNA sample taken from suspect John Mark Karr does not match DNA found on JonBenet Ramsey's body and no charges will be filed against the schoolteacher who claimed he was with the child when she died, CNN affiliate KUSA reported.

[newbie]

No DNA match? Now what is the media going to do??

[geoffrey]

No DNA match? Now what is the media going to do??

Find another story to lead with for a few weeks... I'm sure a rich kid goes missing/gets killed everyday somewhere in the world. Add a little lie here and there, make up some 'facts', and presto, you have a perfect headline.

[Law and Order Forever]

No DNA match? Now what is the media going to do??

Find another story to lead with for a few weeks... I'm sure a rich kid goes missing/gets killed everyday somewhere in the world. Add a little lie here and there, make up some 'facts', and presto, you have a perfect headline.

I don't believe this shit.All this and they're not going to charge him because the DNA didn't match.Couldn't this being done without all this hoopla of bringing him over here,don't they already have his DNA? :angry:

[Riverwind]

All this and they're not going to charge him because the DNA didn't match.Couldn't this being done without all this hoopla of bringing him over here,don't they already have his DNA?

The guy is obviously a publicity hound looking for his 15 minutes of fame. The prosecutors have no choice but to drop the charges - it would be a waste of money to prosecute someone who is not the likely culprit even if he claims otherwise.