PM Carney doesn't do much to solve the economic problems but he is good at public relations.

[blackbird]

We have more people going to food banks now than ever and some of them are running out or have run out of food.

After years and years of putting up roadblocks to resource development in Canada, the Liberals chose a leader with charisma and media appeal.  However, he doesn't seem to have the ability to get Canada's economy going.  Still no pipeline started to the west coast and no hint of hope for a pipeline to the east coast.

But he is an expert at flying around the world to attend meetings every week, much like Trudeau.  He has the PR part figured out.  Today he is meeting the astronauts and appearing with them on the media.  He knows how to sell himself to the public if nothing else.

[paxamericana]

20 minutes ago, blackbird said:

have run out of food.

Third world Americans is where Canada is headed. I warned you all what would happen when you chose to elbows up. @CdnFox

[CdnFox]

48 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Third world Americans is where Canada is headed. =

You guys are already third world   

I mean, i've got to hand it to you,  our crime is up, our economy is down, our freedoms are under attack, we've got a professional leech and vampire as a prime minister....  and yet somehow you still make all that seem like the better choice   LOLOL

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

We have more people going to food banks now than ever and some of them are running out or have run out of food.

After years and years of putting up roadblocks to resource development in Canada, the Liberals chose a leader with charisma and media appeal.  However, he doesn't seem to have the ability to get Canada's economy going.  Still no pipeline started to the west coast and no hint of hope for a pipeline to the east coast.

But he is an expert at flying around the world to attend meetings every week, much like Trudeau.  He has the PR part figured out.  Today he is meeting the astronauts and appearing with them on the media.  He knows how to sell himself to the public if nothing else.

Anyone can look good when the media is editing all of their footage to only show the best of it all, while singing their praises.

Kim-Jong-Un looks like a rockstar/golf pro/genius/hero in North Korea too, but I doubt that he's all that in real life 😉 

16 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You guys are already third world   

I mean, i've got to hand it to you,  our crime is up, our economy is down, our freedoms are under attack, we've got a professional leech and vampire as a prime minister....  and yet somehow you still make all that seem like the better choice   LOLOL

I think down-arrow boy might have just clicked your post without reading it 🤣

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

Third world Americans is where Canada is headed. I warned you all what would happen when you chose to elbows up. @CdnFox

We didn't really "elbows up". Carney just ran his mouth a bit, then rolled over for a belly rub in the WH.  

[CdnFox]

5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

We didn't really "elbows up". Carney just ran his mouth a bit, then rolled over for a belly rub in the WH.  

Yeah. I guess it kind of looks like your elbows are up if you bend over far enough

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

We have more people going to food banks now than ever and some of them are running out or have run out of food.

After years and years of putting up roadblocks to resource development in Canada, the Liberals chose a leader with charisma and media appeal.  However, he doesn't seem to have the ability to get Canada's economy going.  Still no pipeline started to the west coast and no hint of hope for a pipeline to the east coast.

But he is an expert at flying around the world to attend meetings every week, much like Trudeau.  He has the PR part figured out.  Today he is meeting the astronauts and appearing with them on the media.  He knows how to sell himself to the public if nothing else.

For being honest we could have said the same thing in 2015. The liberals have chosen a leader with incredible charisma and media appeal who didn't have the ability to get Canada's economy:

History is just repeating itself. Eventually people will realize that carney is a fraud the same way Trudeau was a fraud and all we can do is hope that it happens sooner than it took with Trudeau

[Gaétan]

The media put makeup on him to make him look good, but underneath he’s ugly

[John Stone]

12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

For being honest we could have said the same thing in 2015. The liberals have chosen a leader with incredible charisma and media appeal who didn't have the ability to get Canada's economy:

History is just repeating itself. Eventually people will realize that carney is a fraud the same way Trudeau was a fraud and all we can do is hope that it happens sooner than it took with Trudeau

Arguably there is nothing more important in becoming incumbent  to a political hack than incredible charisma and media appeal. 

It worked for Trump?

What is surprising is that Carney (unlike Trump) can sustain it ..............70 percent popularity!!!

re: Kanada, speaks volumes about the opposition resonating  - despite the fact that PP is arguably a more skilled politician. 

 

[Barquentine]

1 hour ago, John Stone said:

the fact that PP is arguably a more skilled politician. 

For a moment there I thought yiou were talking about Poilievre, the guy who blew a 26 point lead, the guy whose poll numbers have gone down more since losing the election, the Conservative federal leader provincial Conservatives want nothing to do with, the Conservative leader whose members have crossed over from... Must be another PP I don't know about!

[John Stone]

50 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

For a moment there I thought yiou were talking about Poilievre, the guy who blew a 26 point lead, the guy whose poll numbers have gone down more since losing the election, the Conservative federal leader provincial Conservatives want nothing to do with, the Conservative leader whose members have crossed over from... Must be another PP I don't know about!

................. haha........ we're talking the same .... and yeah, I get ur point. 

What is killing Poilievre is the Liberal campaign's strategy of linking his rhetoric to Trump. 

...........  not to  mention that Carney is known internationally ........... stature? 

FWIW? so-called,  'crossing the floor' should be deferred pending a byelection.  

Edited May 14 by John Stone

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, John Stone said:

Arguably there is nothing more important in becoming incumbent  to a political hack than incredible charisma and media appeal. 

 

It has often been said that people are fantastic campaigners OR fantastic leaders and it's very rare to see someone whos' both. 

But at the end of the day you can be the best leader in the known universe and it's still worth nothing if you can't win. So parties tend to go for the "charisma" guy. 

1 hour ago, John Stone said:

What is killing Poilievre is the Liberal campaign's strategy of linking his rhetoric to Trump. 

It's the media support of that which really sells it.  If you look at it objectively, Carney is 100 times more 'Trump' than PP, even using slogans like 'build baby build" and praising Trump to high heaven and cutting all our counter tariffs, etc. Trump himself says he prefers seeing carney as prime minister vs PP because he "thinks it'll be easier" for him to deal with.   But the libs and the media both portray him as pro trump with zero evidence or logic just to promote hatred of him. 

[John Stone]

24 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

It has often been said that people are fantastic campaigners OR fantastic leaders and it's very rare to see someone whos' both. 

But at the end of the day you can be the best leader in the known universe and it's still worth nothing if you can't win. So parties tend to go for the "charisma" guy. 

....... the electorate tend to go for the 'charisma' guy - example - Trudeau (both)

It's the media support of that which really sells it.  If you look at it objectively, Carney is 100 times more 'Trump' than PP, even using slogans like 'build baby build" and praising Trump to high heaven and cutting all our counter tariffs, etc. Trump himself says he prefers seeing carney as prime minister vs PP because he "thinks it'll be easier" for him to deal with.   But the libs and the media both portray him as pro trump with zero evidence or logic just to promote hatred of him. 

True,  the media can spin a campaign - equal and opposite makes that opinion a  wash tho. 

Carney is 100x more like Trump?

I'll overlook that as  typo. 😁

 

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, John Stone said:

True,  the media can spin a campaign - equal and opposite makes that opinion a  wash tho. 

It would if we had an equal media.  But the CBC gives the libs a serious edge. Especially with older people.  

Quote

 

Carney is 100x more like Trump?

I'll overlook that as  typo. 😁

 

LOL nooooo, carney is vastly more like trump that PP.  He uses the same slogans, he praises trump, he dictates terms without consideration, he 'rigs' things to gain poiltical power the people didn't give him, he spends ungodly amounts of public money on his personal pleasure, etc etc.

If you look at it objectively poilievre and his policies have next to nothing in common with trump. Where there is any crossover it's in those places where every politician looks the same. But carney has used specific trump phrases like build baby build versus drill baby drill and has a style very similar.

It's just a simple truth. Trump has even said that carney is the guy he wants to deal with

[Legato]

8 hours ago, John Stone said:

Carney is 100x more like Trump?

 

True that.

Trump says a lot of stupid things. The Carney does the same, just quieter.

They're both narcissistic, want power and praise.

The only difference is one is overweight and orange the other is hollow and grey.

[John Stone]

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

It would if we had an equal media.  But the CBC gives the libs a serious edge. Especially with older people.  

LOL nooooo, carney is vastly more like trump that PP.  He uses the same slogans, he praises trump, he dictates terms without consideration, he 'rigs' things to gain poiltical power the people didn't give him, he spends ungodly amounts of public money on his personal pleasure, etc etc.

If you look at it objectively poilievre and his policies have next to nothing in common with trump. Where there is any crossover it's in those places where every politician looks the same. But carney has used specific trump phrases like build baby build versus drill baby drill and has a style very similar.

It's just a simple truth. Trump has even said that carney is the guy he wants to deal with

 

 

Likely the majority see Trump and Carney as two distinctly different individuals in terms of background and leadership styles. Trump is a businessman; (still?) everything seems to be transactional. Carney’s background is economics and his stature is derived from his tenure as the Gov. of the Bank of England. Carney’s leadership style is perceived to be thoughtful (not audacious) and measured – he communicates in a manner that is far more conducive to communicating ideas, concepts. Trump has a brash and confrontational style of leadership – using social media to communicate thoughts and opinions. Fair to say that his rhetoric is divisive and lacks diplomacy? Trump will largely be remembered for his unique style in ruling while Carney will likely be remembered for his tenure as Governor of BoE and his ability (or lack) of governing during a period of national crisis and divisiveness.

re: " It's just a simple truth. Trump has even said that carney is the guy he wants to deal with?"

Indeed, it is crafted for the simple minded? 😄

 

Edited May 15 by John Stone

[John Stone]

10 hours ago, Legato said:

True that.

Trump says a lot of stupid things. The Carney does the same, just quieter.

They're both narcissistic, want power and praise.

The only difference is one is overweight and orange the other is hollow and grey.

And yet Carney is polling at 60 percent amongst Canadians and over 70 percent within the Party. 

Over half of Canadians believe PP is insincere and further, would be ashamed to call him  Prime  Minister. 😨

They say if it ain't broke  don't fix it?

Whatever Carney is doing, he needs to NOT fix it. 

[Barquentine]

22 hours ago, John Stone said:

'crossing the floor' should be deferred pending a byelection.

Why? People, including politicians have the right to choose, and to change their minds...

[WestCanMan]

The Libs have been so bad for so long that they can just reverse one of their own policies for two weeks and look like heroes.

Their bought-and-paid-for MSM members can declare a national holiday in their honour if they just temporarily put their treason on the backburner.  

[Legato]

2 hours ago, John Stone said:

And yet Carney is polling at 60 percent amongst Canadians and over 70 percent within the Party. 

Over half of Canadians believe PP is insincere and further, would be ashamed to call him  Prime  Minister. 😨

They say if it ain't broke  don't fix it?

Whatever Carney is doing, he needs to NOT fix it. 

Another one frightened of Poilievre. Who believes the 24/7 negative articles on him and 24/7 positive spin for the Carney.

What else would you expect when the "news media" gets so much government help from...

Bill C-68

Journalism Labour Tax Credit

Local Journalism Initiative

and of course our main Liberal propaganda outfit the CBC.

You really should consider the false narrative you're being fed, and accepting.

 

[John Stone]

8 minutes ago, Legato said:

Another one frightened of Poilievre. Who believes the 24/7 negative articles on him and 24/7 positive spin for the Carney.

What else would you expect when the "news media" gets so much government help from...

Bill C-68

Journalism Labour Tax Credit

Local Journalism Initiative

and of course our main Liberal propaganda outfit the CBC.

You really should consider the false narrative you're being fed, and accepting.

 

The 'yellow press' wasn't a benefit to Justin .......... despite being  paid  off. 

Truth be told, Carney was like a Phoenix, rising from the ashes of the Liberals. 

Daresay the guy is going to have problems with his caucus ..........

The problem PP had initially was that he still believed he was running against Justin. 

[John Stone]

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

Why? People, including politicians have the right to choose, and to change their minds...

Most believe the 'people' should have the right to choose, unlike the U.S. where Gerry Mander has increasingly allowed the political hack to choose 'his/her' people

Edited May 15 by John Stone

[WestCanMan]

25 minutes ago, John Stone said:

The problem PP had initially was that he still believed he was running against Justin. 

Right: the CBC is his political opponent. 

[John Stone]

8 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Right: the CBC is his political opponent. 

...............and potentially his greatest ally - it's up to him to sell himself ............ to groom the perception of Leader 

[Legato]

31 minutes ago, John Stone said:

The 'yellow press' wasn't a benefit to Justin .......... despite being  paid  off. 

Truth be told, Carney was like a Phoenix, rising from the ashes of the Liberals. 

Daresay the guy is going to have problems with his caucus ..........

The problem PP had initially was that he still believed he was running against Justin. 

Yes it was, right up to the time of the Carney being surreptitiously mentioned a gazillion time a day by the rainbow media.

Then along came Trump, the unexpected gift, who recommended the Carney because he could walk all over him.

Lo and behold, all praise the hollow man.