Nationalist Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 (edited) On 4/29/2026 at 5:35 PM, herbie said: As it should be. The unwashed mor0ns who think the USA used to be great and needs to be dismantled calling themselves patriots? Bigger threat to your country than Khrushchev ever was. MOF your id1ot President has damaged your country so bad that in one year he's destroyed 80 years of building it. Poor babyyy...Did the big bad Twumpy-wumpy close the border and send your hope of one party rule packing? Poor dear... Edited May 1 by Nationalist 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Deluge Posted May 1 Author Report Posted May 1 1 hour ago, John Stone said: 'we have to destroy it, to save it' / MAGA We have to erase it to change it. -- the left Quote
Barquentine Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 On 4/29/2026 at 1:26 PM, Deluge said: Sometimes I try to make sense of the ever growing divide in this country. I often think to myself "how can these a$$holes be like this?" You say things like this and wonder why there's a divide? On 4/29/2026 at 5:03 PM, Deluge said: Shitbags certainly don't give a shit, but then nobody cares what you degenerates think. You say things like this and wonder why there's a divide? Quote
Deluge Posted May 1 Author Report Posted May 1 9 minutes ago, Barquentine said: You say things like this and wonder why there's a divide? You say things like this and wonder why there's a divide? It's the truth, barkin'teen. Anything that's ever started is started by the left. It starts with your endless screams about imaginary injustices and it spreads from there, like a plague. Every name I call you people is justified. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 30 minutes ago, Barquentine said: You say things like this and wonder why there's a divide? You say things like this and wonder why there's a divide? Who created the divide? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Barquentine Posted May 2 Report Posted May 2 21 hours ago, Nationalist said: Who created the divide? 1. The language coming fom the right over the last few decades, especially Trump's: "Lock her up!" "2nd amendment people will take care of her." "Beat the crap out of of him." Popele are "treasonous" just because they disagree with him... 2. You and your language and all the Maga hate-filled crowd... 3. Racist policies like gerrymandering, misogyny in the military, supreme court rolling back minority rights... "Money is speech"... 4. Somewhere along the line the GOP became the party of rich whites and to hell with anyone else! And they sucker poor whites into believing they're helping them. 1 Quote
Barquentine Posted May 2 Report Posted May 2 22 hours ago, Deluge said: Anything that's ever started is started by the left. Oh, so then the Left is the most powerful force in Western Politics. Nice of you to admit that. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted May 2 Report Posted May 2 You people believe so many lies that you don't even know what reality is. Lie #1: 49 minutes ago, Barquentine said: The language coming fom the right over the last few decades, especially Trump's: "Lock her up!" The implication, and llie, here is that the right just randomly wanted Hillary Clinton thrown in jail. However, there were two viable reasons (and a whole host of rumors) as to why she should be locked up. The most pressing was her bathroom server. She operated a ghost e-mail from that server that was hacked. On that server were classified documents/information. Her use of that server and its storage of sensitive information was a clear violation of the law. No one is above the law? Well, except her. Then there was the infamous "stand down" order that is believed to come from her office during the 2012 Benghazi attack. Her and/or Obama created a lie that some goofball made a video in the desert near Vegas and that caused these terrorists to kill our ambassador. That goofball went to jail for that lie. The lock her up chants were not some made up attacks with no basis. There was a real need for the justice system to hold power accountable. They did not. Lie #2: 56 minutes ago, Barquentine said: "2nd amendment people will take care of her." What he really said: "If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don't know". What he really said was that her judges would eliminate rights. Then, the only recourse would be the 2nd amendment. Part of the reason we have a 2nd amendment is to fight oppression. But he never said the 2nd amendment people will take care of her. Lie #3: 59 minutes ago, Barquentine said: Popele are "treasonous" just because they disagree with him... He never said that. He has called people treasonous for things that are not fully treason, but that is standard rhetoric. Lie #4: 1 hour ago, Barquentine said: 2. You and your language and all the Maga hate-filled crowd... You are projecting. Then there is the left: Lie #5: 1 hour ago, Barquentine said: 3. Racist policies like gerrymandering, Gerrymandering isn't racist, except when the left does it. The Supreme Court on Wednesday, in the case of Louisiana v. Callais, struck down a Louisiana congressional map that a group of voters who describe themselves as “non-African American” had challenged as the product of unconstitutional racial gerrymandering. The left created racially motivated districts with the intent of promoting one race over another under the racist assumption that skin color is your defining political trait. Lie #6: 1 hour ago, Barquentine said: misogyny in the military This is so far off base that I have no idea what you are talking about. Lie #7: 1 hour ago, Barquentine said: supreme court rolling back minority rights... The ruling said you CANNOT use race to give people preferential treatment like their own voting district. That is anti-racism. Lie #8: 1 hour ago, Barquentine said: "Money is speech"... Limiting the amount of money an individual or entity can use to promote a message, especially a political message, is against the first amendment. It is tantamount to saying you can only spend $1000 to save your life, then you just have to die. Lie #9 1 hour ago, Barquentine said: 4. Somewhere along the line the GOP became the party of rich whites and to hell with anyone else! You are being so racist here, on top of lying. More than half of Latinos now favor the republican party. But your assertion that the republican party is about rich whate people displays your bigotry toward people that have money and people that are white. It is blatant racism and it is truly disgusting. Let's talk reality. Most of your assertions about the right are really things you are doing. But you tell yourself these lies over and over and over and over until you actually believe them and can't phathom the truth. 2 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Nationalist Posted May 2 Report Posted May 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, Barquentine said: 1. The language coming fom the right over the last few decades, especially Trump's: "Lock her up!" "2nd amendment people will take care of her." "Beat the crap out of of him." Popele are "treasonous" just because they disagree with him... 2. You and your language and all the Maga hate-filled crowd... 3. Racist policies like gerrymandering, misogyny in the military, supreme court rolling back minority rights... "Money is speech"... 4. Somewhere along the line the GOP became the party of rich whites and to hell with anyone else! And they sucker poor whites into believing they're helping them. I see. So...conservatives deified a common criminal and burnt down cities and murdered cops? Conservatives opened the border to millions of unvetted criminals? Conservatives warped the law and turned it on ourselves? Conservatives setup General Flynn in the midst of a hissy-fit over losing an election? Conservatives let all those hardened criminals free to rape and kill citizens at their leisure? Conservatives labeled themselves NAZI or FASCIST or any number of false accusations? Bugger-off Tweenkie-Poo. Your lies are old, stale and pathetic. Edited May 2 by Nationalist 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Deluge Posted May 2 Author Report Posted May 2 (edited) 2 hours ago, Barquentine said: Oh, so then the Left is the most powerful force in Western Politics. Nice of you to admit that. The Left is powerful in poverty & redistribution, gender bending, drug/human trafficking, illegal immigration and sexualizing kids. Are you sure that's where you want to plant your flag? Edited May 2 by Deluge 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted May 2 Report Posted May 2 On 4/29/2026 at 9:26 AM, Deluge said: Sometimes I try to make sense of the ever growing divide in this country. I often think to myself "how can these a$$holes be like this?" But then a very good answer came from one of my favorite podcasters: he essentially said that one of the biggest differences between us MAGA patriots and the woke haters is that we see foreign dictators as the enemy and the woke haters see us as the enemy. When you think about it for a moment, it makes sense: these degenerates tell us to go kill ourselves, or they tell us they would rather have illegal aliens as neighbors than us patriots. We've had three assassination attempts in less than two years. We've had jokes about assassinations, talk of assassinations, and God knows what's being said in private. lol People speak of a future civil war, but really, it's already started. You're on the right track I think. But another way to look at it is the disassociation of common values. And I'm not just talking religion or moral or ethical values per se For the most part countries are founded based on a shared ethnicity. And I'm not talking about race I'm talking about a common language, a common understanding of how things work, a common set of ethical beliefs and expectations and in general agreement about what is appropriate and make sense and what isn't and doesn't That allows everybody to examine issues from a point of common reference. As an example our forefathers all agreed that murder is bad, now with that in mind they could have conversations about what an appropriate punishment would be But if one person thinks murder is good and one person thinks murder is bad there is no common framework for them to have any reasonable discussion about what is appropriate or not appropriate for punishment. There's no possible way to arrive at a consensus because there's a fundamental difference in the belief system that provides a common frame It would be like if you spoke french and I spoke English, without a common agreed upon language it would be very difficult for us to have a conversation because there's no common structure that we could use to facilitate that That's basically where America and several other countries are at the moment. There is no common landing or principles upon which to base a conversation. There is no longer an Overton window, there is now an Overton kaleidoscope which means it's impossible to have a clear picture of things I don't really know if there's any coming back from that to be honest 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Deluge Posted May 2 Author Report Posted May 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: You're on the right track I think. But another way to look at it is the disassociation of common values. And I'm not just talking religion or moral or ethical values per se For the most part countries are founded based on a shared ethnicity. And I'm not talking about race I'm talking about a common language, a common understanding of how things work, a common set of ethical beliefs and expectations and in general agreement about what is appropriate and make sense and what isn't and doesn't That allows everybody to examine issues from a point of common reference. As an example our forefathers all agreed that murder is bad, now with that in mind they could have conversations about what an appropriate punishment would be But if one person thinks murder is good and one person thinks murder is bad there is no common framework for them to have any reasonable discussion about what is appropriate or not appropriate for punishment. There's no possible way to arrive at a consensus because there's a fundamental difference in the belief system that provides a common frame It would be like if you spoke french and I spoke English, without a common agreed upon language it would be very difficult for us to have a conversation because there's no common structure that we could use to facilitate that That's basically where America and several other countries are at the moment. There is no common landing or principles upon which to base a conversation. There is no longer an Overton window, there is now an Overton kaleidoscope which means it's impossible to have a clear picture of things I don't really know if there's any coming back from that to be honest Yes, that may be the core reason the country is such a shit show. I go back to the Naturalization Act of 1790 which is similar to what you are talking about, only the Founders wanted to keep America white. Their reasoning makes sense when you consider all the browning and race hustling this country's been going through. But I agree, I don't think there is any going back - the country's permanently infected with anti-American bullshit. Edited May 2 by Deluge Quote
Barquentine Posted May 3 Report Posted May 3 21 hours ago, Deluge said: only the Founders wanted to keep America white. Except for slaves, of course. And oh, the inconvenient Aboriginals? Well, just kill off most and box in the rest. And always remember God is on our side! 1 Quote
Barquentine Posted May 3 Report Posted May 3 23 hours ago, CdnFox said: There is no common landing or principles upon which to base a conversation. Bullshit! Democracy, equal rights for EVERY citizen, obey the laws and Live and Let Live! Pretty common principles. 1 Quote
Deluge Posted May 3 Author Report Posted May 3 10 minutes ago, Barquentine said: Except for slaves, of course. And oh, the inconvenient Aboriginals? Well, just kill off most and box in the rest. And always remember God is on our side! Yup, slaves weren't citizens, so I'm not sure why you're stamping your feet. They should've been given a trip back home when they were freed. Quote
CdnFox Posted May 3 Report Posted May 3 1 hour ago, Barquentine said: Bullshit! Truth sadly, Quote Democracy, The dems don't believe in democracy the same way republicans do. The dems believe every door that could lead to cheating be left open and that people should be allowed to vote even if they're not really citizens. Republicans believe the opposite. There's no consensus there, that's what half the fighting right now is about. If both sides WERE in agreement as to what democracy is, we'd have a lot fewer problems. IN canada for example we all agree elections should be free fair and SECURE, and nobody complains about showing voter id. And we don't get people saying one side or the other didn't really win just because their opponents got more votes, as happened in the 2019 and 2021 elections. Quote equal rights for EVERY citizen, The dems do NOT believe in equal rights in the slightest. And hnestly the republicans barely do. The dems firmly believe that ONLY those rights they approve of should be allowed and that rights should be based on a variety of factors, with those who are 'more repressed' having a different and larger set of rights than others. That's what DEI is all about, that's what preferential access to university is all about, that's what the idea that it's not racism when you say it about white people is all about, etc. Quote obey the laws BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Quote and Live and Let Live! Neither side believes that any more. Cancel culture and deportations should have told you that. Quote Pretty common principles. I've noted none of those are common principles in the slightest in this day and age. In fact all of those have radically different interpretations amongst many groups, were there even being differences on the left and the right rather than just differences between the left and the right. There are very few common values. It was a time when everyone agreed murder is bad, now you see Lefty's cheering like mad when Charlie Kirk gets shot or when a medical executive who has done nothing to anybody gets shot or when someone tries to kill trump because they don't like him. So Americans can't even agree on murder as a common principle Swinging a miss there kiddo 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Deluge Posted May 3 Author Report Posted May 3 5 hours ago, Barquentine said: Bullshit! Democracy, equal rights for EVERY citizen, obey the laws and Live and Let Live! Pretty common principles. Freedom & citizenship for whites. Everyone else needs to be visa holders or sent home. Quote
WestCanMan Posted May 3 Report Posted May 3 On 4/29/2026 at 11:58 AM, robosmith said: The ONLY people I've heard calling for a war is MAGA lDIOTS. The thing about war is that sometimes you just realize that you're already in it. For 5 years in a row, Fentanyl has killed more Americans than all 20 years of the Viet Nam war combined. The Chinese gov't is intentionally making that happen. The level of violent rhetoric coming from the left, and the level of violence stemming from all that rhetoric, is at a fever pitch in the US right now. There is an assassination attempt on Trump every 4 months now. He's on pace to have 8 more Democrats take shots at him by the time his term is up in Jan 2029. Still, Jimmy Kimmel is loved by leftists for his "dead Trump" jokes. That's not a game, robo. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Hodad Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 10 hours ago, WestCanMan said: The thing about war is that sometimes you just realize that you're already in it. For 5 years in a row, Fentanyl has killed more Americans than all 20 years of the Viet Nam war combined. The Chinese gov't is intentionally making that happen. Fentanyl deaths are unfortunate, sometimes tragic, but we import it illegally because there is a high demand, not because China is waging "war" on the US. Nearly all fentanyl comes into the US from Mexico, and most of it is made there. (Although Canada is a big problem, according to Trump🙄.) And the number of fentanyl deaths is running neck-and-neck with gun deaths, and most of those are manufactured domestically. So questions: Why aren't you equally concerned about stopping fun sales? Is The US government at war with the citizenry for "making" that happen? Guns are the leading cause of death for children and teens. Are MAGA and the gun lobby specifically at war on America's children? Quote
Barquentine Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 13 hours ago, Deluge said: Freedom & citizenship for whites. Everyone else needs to be visa holders or sent home. All the rest of you right wingers stoopid enough to agree with that? Get out your white sheets and Dunce Caps! Quote
Barquentine Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 17 hours ago, CdnFox said: The dems firmly believe that ONLY those rights they approve of should be allowed and that rights should be based on a variety of factors That's why the right wing SCOTUS has been rolling back rights, based on 18th century thinking? 17 hours ago, CdnFox said: The dems do NOT believe in equal rights in the slightest. Do you actually think before posting? 17 hours ago, CdnFox said: 17 hours ago, CdnFox said: those who are 'more repressed' having a different and larger set of rights than others. That's what DEI is all about So wrong! Extending rights and priveleges to all, not just a white minority is what DEI is about. "When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression." Franklin Leonard Quote
John Stone Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 (edited) The founding fathers were united by a shared concern – that the so-called, bold experiment could not survive without virtuous leadership. The incentive structure has changed – what gets attention (votes) is not subdued competence or moral clarity but ersatz confrontation, outrage …………………… and loyalty (partisanship to a fault) Loyalty has displaced virtue. Suppose the same could be said for society ……… no virtue, partisanship to a fault? Who empowers these jack wagons? Ur being pi$$ed on and ur polite about it. ........... arguably, being pi$$ed on is getting to be an indulgence Edited May 4 by John Stone Quote
John Johnston Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 1 hour ago, Barquentine said: That's why the right wing SCOTUS has been rolling back rights, based on 18th century thinking? Do you actually think before posting? So wrong! Extending rights and priveleges to all, not just a white minority is what DEI is about. "When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression." Franklin Leonard Party like it's 1799 Quote
Nationalist Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 (edited) 22 hours ago, Barquentine said: Bullshit! Democracy, equal rights for EVERY citizen, obey the laws and Live and Let Live! Pretty common principles. And just what do you think "Democracy" is? "Democracy" doesn't guarantee "equal rights for EVERY citizen, obey the laws and Live and Let Live!" Not at all. "Democracy" only guarantees that elections will be heald in order to determine society's current concerns for national management. That's it. America's execution of "Democracy" has GRANTED you a certain legal framework. Its a reflection of the will of the citizens. What annoys me to no end, is the perpetual attempts by you Libbies to warp the meaning of words to your benefit. Do you think we dont see it? Hell...DO you even realize what you're doing? You Libbies claim to be educated. Yet your actions and statements belay that idea. Edited May 4 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
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