Had Israel not attacked Iran in February 2025 and in June, the Islamic regime would now have an atomic bomb to use against Israel

[blackbird]

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Had Israel not attacked Iran in February 2025 and in June, the Islamic regime would now have an atomic bomb to use against Israel, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told Independence Day torchlighters on Thursday.

This would have been "the beginning of the end for the Jewish people," according to the prime minister. 

"This year, we faced a massive test. A little over a year ago, it became clear to us that Iran was preparing atomic bombs to destroy us. This is not an empty statement; it is not a 'spin.' If we had not acted with the spirit of 'a nation rising like a lioness and roaring like a lion, they would have atomic bombs, which would be the beginning of the end for the Jewish people. We were compelled to act," he said.  unquote

Netanyahu: Iran would have achieved nuclear bomb if Israel had not attacked over past 15 months

[TreeBeard]

You believe that nonsense?

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

You believe that nonsense?

Nobody knows what to believe anymore...about anything.

[John Stone]

 

............. some background might be useful? 

The JCPOA (Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action) was a 2015 agreement between Iran and world powers that limited Iran’s nuclear program in exchange for sanctions relief. The Trump administration withdraw from the agreement in 2018. Iran immediately abandoned agreements and began accelerating its advancement towards weapons-threshold capability.

The JCPOA’s collapse is arguably the single most consequential diplomatic failure leading to the current Iran conflict.  Ya think??

When the Biden admin entered office in 2021 it was committed to restoring the JCPOA through negotiations.  By August 2022, a near final text was on the table that would have lifted sanctions in In exchange for Iran returning to nuclear limits and allowing IAEA. (International Atomic Energy Agency) verification.  The deal collapsed – Iran insisting on guarantees that a future US administration could not withdraw again – an impossible ask.

 

[John Johnston]

Bullshit. Been hearing that crap every other week for forty years. It's just that finally Nutanyahoo found the stupidest American President history to make this happen. That's all. 

[John Johnston]

11 hours ago, blackbird said:

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Had Israel not attacked Iran in February 2025 and in June, the Islamic regime would now have an atomic bomb to use against Israel, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told Independence Day torchlighters on Thursday.

This would have been "the beginning of the end for the Jewish people," according to the prime minister. 

"This year, we faced a massive test. A little over a year ago, it became clear to us that Iran was preparing atomic bombs to destroy us. This is not an empty statement; it is not a 'spin.' If we had not acted with the spirit of 'a nation rising like a lioness and roaring like a lion, they would have atomic bombs, which would be the beginning of the end for the Jewish people. We were compelled to act," he said.  unquote

Netanyahu: Iran would have achieved nuclear bomb if Israel had not attacked over past 15 months

A perfect example of the boy who called Wolf. 

[John Stone]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Nobody knows what to believe anymore...about anything.

I have great respect for Israel and I applaud Netanyahu.

However, I think we can agree that the US ......... specifically Trump, was punked by a wily Jew. 

There is nothing the US has accomplished to date, that the IDF could not have accomplished. 

............. anyone hear about the raid on Osirak? 

A good illustration of Israel's reach .................. and they're much (much) stronger now. 

 

 

Edited April 20 by John Stone

[John Stone]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Nobody knows what to believe anymore...about anything.

............... ha ha ............. common sense usually prevails.. 

[John Johnston]

6 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

You believe that nonsense?

An example of, if you say the same thing long enough, eventually it will be taken as fact. Lot of this going around these days. 

[Nationalist]

27 minutes ago, John Stone said:

I have great respect for Israel and I applaud Netanyahu.

However, I think we can agree that the US ......... specifically Trump, was punked by a wily Jew. 

There is nothing the US has accomplished to date, that the IDF could not have accomplished. 

............. anyone hear about the raid on Osirak? 

A good illustration of Israel's reach .................. and they're much (much) stronger now. 

 

 

Groovy. Let Isreal deal with Iran alone then.

23 minutes ago, John Stone said:

............... ha ha ............. common sense usually prevails.. 

Common sense would say Iran is no threat to America.

[John Stone]

11 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Groovy. Let Isreal deal with Iran alone then.

Common sense would say Iran is no threat to America.

................  oh, at the time they were definitely capable ......... the problem Israel had was that Israel is a regional power, the US is a global power, more ........... think political. 

Israel would be quite happy to see US ground troops on Iranian soil ............ failing that a completely failed state. 

In any event, the US is ballz deep - heavily committed ............... they have to 'finish' it ..............basically an Israeli wet dream. 

[John Stone]

18 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Groovy. Let Isreal deal with Iran alone then.

Common sense would say Iran is no threat to America.

Likely would not have been for 10 years. 

Iran had (has) no delivery system capable of reaching the US.

Iran was (is) a regional problem ........... specifically Israel's

[Nationalist]

18 minutes ago, John Stone said:

................  oh, at the time they were definitely capable ......... the problem Israel had was that Israel is a regional power, the US is a global power, more ........... think political. 

Israel would be quite happy to see US ground troops on Iranian soil ............ failing that a completely failed state. 

In any event, the US is ballz deep - heavily committed ............... they have to 'finish' it ..............basically an Israeli wet dream. 

Indeed. I'd rather they dont cum on my sheets. 

[John Stone]

15 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Indeed. I'd rather they dont cum on my sheets. 

I applaud Israel -  truly!

Likely Bibi's joy re: US involvement is only exceeded by Putin's upon hearing  the news of Trumps reelection. 😄

[Nationalist]

12 minutes ago, John Stone said:

I applaud Israel -  truly!

Likely Bibi's joy re: US involvement is only exceeded by Putin's upon hearing  the news of Trumps reelection. 😄

Ya know...this hard-on you Libbies got for Trump and Putin is SOOOO counter productive.

Do you even know where Ukraine is? 

I'd like to see Netanyahu in jail. And a lot of Isrealis would want the same.

If the US wants to maintain it global standing, they'll have to make peace with Russia and get out of this Iranian joke.

If Netanyahu wants to, let his Isreal fight with all the Arabs and Persians.

Im sure that would go well for them...

[John Stone]

3 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Ya know...this hard-on you Libbies got for Trump and Putin is SOOOO counter productive.

Do you even know where Ukraine is? 

I'd like to see Netanyahu in jail. And a lot of Isrealis would want the same.

If the US wants to maintain it global standing, they'll have to make peace with Russia and get out of this Iranian joke.

If Netanyahu wants to, let his Isreal fight with all the Arabs and Persians.

Im sure that would go well for them...

 

3 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Ya know...this hard-on you Libbies got for Trump and Putin is SOOOO counter productive.

Do you even know where Ukraine is? 

I'd like to see Netanyahu in jail. And a lot of Isrealis would want the same.

If the US wants to maintain it global standing, they'll have to make peace with Russia and get out of this Iranian joke.

If Netanyahu wants to, let his Isreal fight with all the Arabs and Persians.

Im sure that would go well for them...

Traditionally, Israel has always fought with the Arabs and Persians - they're good at it. 😁

Trump HAS made peace with Russia ......... Putin talks and Trump listens. 😁

Please don't condemn Bibi for selling Trump, truth be told Iran has been on Trump's bucket list for some time.

I'd hazard to guess that Iran HAS been an education for Trump tho 

 

[Nationalist]

17 minutes ago, John Stone said:

 

Traditionally, Israel has always fought with the Arabs and Persians - they're good at it. 😁

Trump HAS made peace with Russia ......... Putin talks and Trump listens. 😁

Please don't condemn Bibi for selling Trump, truth be told Iran has been on Trump's bucket list for some time.

I'd hazard to guess that Iran HAS been an education for Trump tho 

 

Great!

So US forces can exit, and the Isrealis can carry on.

[John Stone]

2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Great!

So US forces can exit, and the Isrealis can carry on.

The US can't exit - it would be politically disastrous, the WORLD might start to suspect the US can't be trusted to keep their word?

Regime Change

Recover Dust'

Open Hormuz.

Trump's rhetoric has painted himself into a corner. 

[Nationalist]

5 minutes ago, John Stone said:

The US can't exit - it would be politically disastrous, the WORLD might start to suspect the US can't be trusted to keep their word?

Regime Change

Recover Dust'

Open Hormuz.

Trump's rhetoric has painted himself into a corner. 

If the world hasn't realized the US cant be trusted yet...stupid world.

I just want to know why Trump decided to open this can of worms.

And I hope its not what it looks like.

[John Stone]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

If the world hasn't realized the US cant be trusted yet...stupid world.

I just want to know why Trump decided to open this can of worms.

And I hope its not what it looks like.

Why?

The best I can offer is that he thought it would be a lot easier? 

But, yeah ............... WHY???

[User]

9 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

You believe that nonsense?

What makes it nonsense?

Iran had been working towards nuclear weapons. They were getting closer to having enriched Uranium to the correct amounts. They had been working on better ICBMs. Destroying their facilities put all this back.

 

[User]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

If the world hasn't realized the US cant be trusted yet...stupid world.

I just want to know why Trump decided to open this can of worms.

And I hope its not what it looks like.

Of course… the US can’t be trusted, but Russia can? They were justified in their invasion or Ukraine… 

ROFL

[Nationalist]

21 minutes ago, User said:

Of course… the US can’t be trusted, but Russia can? They were justified in their invasion or Ukraine… 

ROFL

Yes YankeeDoodle...

[User]

3 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Yes YankeeDoodle...

So, when you call yourself a Nationalist… is that for the nation of Russia? 

[Legato]

10 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

You believe that nonsense?

Well they were certainly working on a recipe for Bangers & Mash with bacon bits.