Qatar’s Energy Minister Saad al-Kaabi is warning that the escalating war in the Middle East could “bring down the economies of the world.”

[robosmith]

When I cited the Strait of Hormuz, gnat girl IGNORANTLY dismissed the danger to the world economy 🤮.

 

 

   

[John Johnston]

Ya but the whole world knew this. Everyone with a brain knew this could happen except Trump and Weekend Fox News Host Hegseth. 

American exceptionalism I suppose. 

[Nationalist]

Now you jackasses are concerned with the economy. 

What grand hypocrisy. 

[ironstone]

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

When I cited the Strait of Hormuz, gnat girl IGNORANTLY dismissed the danger to the world economy

Iran has been causing problems in the Strait of Hormuz since the 1980's.

 

[paxamericana]

Okay and? US economy churning just fine. World economy does not equal US economy.

Edited March 7 by paxamericana

[Hodad]

12 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Okay and? US economy churning just fine. World economy does not equal US economy.

For anybody keeping score, 4 years under Biden and zero months with net jobs loses. 

1 year under Tariff Trump and he just clocked his 4th month of net job losses. 

Maybe unilaterally starting another war of choice in the ME instead of focusing on the economy isn't the right idea.

But then again, with economic policies like his, we're better off if his attention is elsewhere. 

Edited March 7 by Hodad

[paxamericana]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

For anybody keeping score, 4 years over Biden and zero months with net jobs loses. 

1 year under Tariff Trump and he just clocked his 4th month of net job losses. 

Maybe unilaterally starting another war of choice in the ME instead of focusing on the economy isn't the right idea.

But then again, with economic policies like his, we're better off if his attention is elsewhere. 

Not sure that timeline is accurate. While Iran is weak and isolated, it’s in our interest to strike, why wait for them to build up more defenses, drones and missiles?? Why fight them at their full strength.

Oh and for the Israel hate crowd on here (left and right). Trump isn’t doing this just because of Israeli interests. It’s also in American interests to get rid of the old regime allied with China.

Edited March 7 by paxamericana

[LinkSoul60]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

For anybody keeping score, 4 years over Biden and zero months with net jobs loses. 

1 year under Tariff Trump and he just clocked his 4th month of net job losses. 

Maybe unilaterally starting another war of choice in the ME instead of focusing on the economy isn't the right idea.

But then again, with economic policies like his, we're better off if his attention is elsewhere. 

The guy is brilliant in that respect...  If it gets hot just change the subject so people start looking at something else.  What better to distract peoples attention than a war! 

In fairness to him though, he's been busy.  He'll get around to figuring out why losing another 92K jobs last month, 400K+ more people on long term unemployment, and manufacturing jobs declining in 14 of the 15 months since he took office.  The guy is maybe the best ever, someone everyone said couldn't be done....just ask him. He'll figure the economy thing out when this war is done.

[robosmith]

7 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Now you jackasses are concerned with the economy. 

What grand hypocrisy. 

Now you can NO LONGER IGNORE the threat to the economy posed by Trump's STUPID WAR.

Enjoy your high gas prices, while I just filled my tank for another 700 miles.

7 hours ago, ironstone said:

Iran has been causing problems in the Strait of Hormuz since the 1980's.

And now they're shutting it down completely by raising their very high insurance costs for shipping. 

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Okay and? US economy churning just fine. World economy does not equal US economy.

It absolutely does. If the world economy takes a crap the US economy feels it strongly

But I think this threat is a little overblown. It depends on how long this conflict lasts

[CdnFox]

11 hours ago, robosmith said:

When I cited the Strait of Hormuz, gnat girl IGNORANTLY dismissed the danger to the world economy 🤮.

 

 

   

You don't cite the strait of hormuz.  You just mentioned it. And you didn't even include a cite here. 

Yemen has been a bigger threat to the street of Hormuz and they are funded by iran. Taking a ran out brings stability to the region and protects the trade routes

It's probably not much of an issue. Once the conflict ends it is more likely to be more secure than it was previously.

[paxamericana]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

world economy takes a crap the US economy feels it strongly

No that’s China and all the other export lead economy. America is a consumer based economy. And if you’re wanting to be specific the North American block is even more insulated from the global economy.

[Hodad]

10 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Not sure that timeline is accurate. While Iran is weak and isolated, it’s in our interest to strike, why wait for them to build up more defenses, drones and missiles?? Why fight them at their full strength.

Oh and for the Israel hate crowd on here (left and right). Trump isn’t doing this just because of Israeli interests. It’s also in American interests to get rid of the old regime allied with China.

It's accurate. 

You present a false dilemma. Iran is not and was not a significant threat to the US. Militarily, one could argue that Iran was a concern for some parts of the world, but not here. We didn't have to fight them at all, regardless of their strength. 

I think there's an argument to be made for the international community to intervene in a humanitarian crisis, perhaps with a side of forced non-proliferation, but that's exactly how such policing should be done: by the international community. We are a part of that community--or used to be before Trump alienated our allies and undermined our global standing. We could participate in--or even lead--such community policing, but it's the community aspect that gives such things legitimacy. 

Trump ran on a non-interventionist (nearly isolationist) foreign policy platform: America first, avoiding new wars, critical of the Iraq war and even the modest Lybia intervention. -- If MAGA were smart enough to notice that the bait and switch, they'd have whiplash right now. Instead, they don't seem to notice that they've done a 180 and simply cheer for whatever he says. 

I suspect that as an aggressive interventionist and expansionist, you're at least consistent in your position here.

In this worst-of-both-worlds scenario, Trump will get his distraction, Hegseth will get to "war" something and the defense contractors will get more of our tax dollars. But the rest of America will be poorer for the effort: more isolated, less respected, less trusted and less safe. 

Maybe the Iranian people can salvage something positive from it. Maybe. 

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[paxamericana]

53 minutes ago, Hodad said:

You present a false dilemma. Iran is not and was not a significant threat to the US.

Iran is a threat to American interests. Like does threat mean imminent invasion or something ? That definition doesn’t apply, clearly Iran has allied itself to China who imports the vast majority of its energy from the Middle East. Iran happens to sit on a strategic choke point in that supply line. It’s in the American interest to exert control over said choke point in order to limit Chinese adventurism whose 900 ships are mostly short range oil burning. 
 

This whole community coalition you’re describing, yeah that was Iraq , we don’t give a damn which despot runs Iran so long as they obey don’t get cozy with the Chinese. We are not in the business of nation building anymore, we’re in the business of Nation smashing. The NATO deadbeats are as helpful as a wet sock. MAGA isn’t just about our immediate border it’s about putting American interests first! 
 

As to the American expansionist agenda. It’s quite simple and hasn’t changed for the last 200 years. Canada 51st Greenland to be included since warming Artic ocean. Mexico/Latin America, that’s the next Canada.

Edited March 7 by paxamericana

[CdnFox]

9 hours ago, paxamericana said:

No that’s China and all the other export lead economy. America is a consumer based economy. And if you’re wanting to be specific the North American block is even more insulated from the global economy.

No sorry kiddo but your deranged. You need a lesson or two in economics before you start talking so that you don't wind up looking like a fool.

You ask economy is still largely dependent on the world economy and if the world economy tanks the US economy tanks with it. I would point out during the great recession canada for example did far better economically and recovered far quicker than the us. That's because the world financial markets had collapsed and while Canada's internal financial markets were strong the US is completely Reliant on world trade and world financial markets to function