Hodad Posted March 2 Report Posted March 2 29 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: It's not like we never knew they were BS spamming, or lying, and it's not like we haven't said it before. I honestly don't know why this strikes such a chord with her. Well, girlfriend, I'll tell you. It "strikes a chord" because it's the micro that represents the macro. It's a distilled and purified version of thoughtless nonsense that absolutely permeates this forum. And it's not just this thread. I've posted in several threads lately about the lazy inanity of this particular specious argument. It's running rampant. There's really no point in talking to anybody that dumb--or who's committed to pretending to be that dumb. I'd prefer that all of you knock it off and actually debate a topic like serious people. Instead of, you, know. the mindless jerk fest. 1 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted March 2 Author Report Posted March 2 18 minutes ago, robosmith said: Spraying tear gas in peaceful protester's faces is NOT DOING THEIR JOBS. There's no such thing as "peacefully interfering in police business" lol. FYI that's called "committing a crime", not "peacefully protesting". Optionally, people can just be arrested for what they're doing, but it's not actually a big charge that they would be facing. If they resist arrest, however, they're on a really slippery slope, where nasty charges can quickly pile up. 6 minutes ago, Hodad said: I'd prefer that all of you knock it off and actually debate a topic like serious people. 😂 I would literally drop dead if I ever saw you engage in honest debate. 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Hodad Posted March 2 Report Posted March 2 3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Homan was also Obama's ICE director. He won awards for.... removing more people than he has under Trump so far. Secret police, hey? With the f'ing word "ICE" emblazoned all over them... If you don't have to identify yourself, you're not accountable to the public. At this point, they are literally nameless, faceless thugs that roll up in a van and abduct someone off the street--girls, boys, students, professionals, mothers, the disabled, oh, and occasionally an actual criminal. There are frequent beatings and other abuses. And after the abductions, the targets are disappeared to awful "camps" in the US or foreign gulags. This includes the undocumented, those with legal status, and even a not-insignificant number of US citizens. None of that is made up. It's happening regularly. ICE loses the overwhelming majority of their court cases. 4,400 illegal detentions. It's a campaign deliberately and explicitly designed to create a sense of terror. That's the objective. And they keep doing it. I support a legally controlled border and immigration policies. Morality and ethics should shape that law, but I'm not opposed to a controlled border. Never have been. But I vehemently oppose these tactics which toss aside what used to make America great. In the effort to safeguard the geography of America, we're losing it's soul. Quote
WestCanMan Posted March 2 Author Report Posted March 2 (edited) 40 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Let us be honest. You just wanted to use the term pettifogging. Lol You could have used this at any time in any topic. It is a fundamental tactic of the left. TBH, the only other term or accusation that's as accurate as pettifogging is "ignoring the elephant in the room", really. I usually say that they're dodging, weaselling, changing the topic, engaging in semantics, etc, but none of those are quite as accurate here. The leftists love to seize on the unimportant and minor aspects of a story and blow them out of proportion while steering clear of the main issues, and that has never been more clear than it is with this military operation. Leftists are: lying about Iran's nuclear advancements, capabilities, intentions, etc pretending that the amount of ballistic missiles and inter-continental ballistic missiles that Iran has doesn't pose a threat pretending that Iran's nuclear deal was working ignoring all the help that Biden and Obama gave Iran to create nukes and ICBM's pretending that Iranian proxies didn't attack IS bases hundreds of times while Biden was POTUS in order to try to make the case that Iran isn't really a danger to American lives ignoring the blatant opportunity that's staring the US right in the face now, as millions of oppressed Iranians have risen up They're pretending that there are no legitimate reasons for the attack, to make it seem like what Trump is doing is a random crime, and then trying to get people to focus on other minor, fake issues instead of watching the US win. Edited March 2 by WestCanMan Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
robosmith Posted March 2 Report Posted March 2 27 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: There's no such thing as "peacefully interfering in police business" lol. FYI that's called "committing a crime", not "peacefully protesting". Optionally, people can just be arrested for what they're doing, but it's not actually a big charge that they would be facing. If they resist arrest, however, they're on a really slippery slope, where nasty charges can quickly pile up. 😂 I would literally drop dead if I ever saw you engage in honest debate. There were NO CRIMES depicted in the VIDEO except Pretti's MURDER, the assault of the woman who Pretti was trying to help, and the dose of tear gas they sprayed in Pretti's face. Quote
Reg Volk Posted March 2 Report Posted March 2 1 hour ago, Hodad said: If you don't have to identify yourself, you're not accountable to the public. At this point, they are literally nameless, faceless thugs that roll up in a van and abduct someone off the street-- Thumbs up - that's what Americans voted for. And no, they are not "thugs" - it's the Anti-Ice losers who are thugs. Quote As Democrat and Liberal governments fall, Republicans and Conservatives come to the rescue.
WestCanMan Posted March 3 Author Report Posted March 3 On 3/2/2026 at 1:29 PM, Hodad said: If you don't have to identify yourself, you're not accountable to the public. At this point, they are literally nameless, faceless thugs that roll up in a van and abduct someone off the street It was leftists that were doxxing the ICE agents, and giving out their home addresses, and the locations of the hotels they were staying at. You are the f'ing ret4rds responsible for this. Protests that were 100% peaceful in Canada were broken up by officers who were covered up and had no name tags. They were even trampled with horses and Leftards felt that was was perfectly fine. 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Reg Volk Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: It was leftists that were doxxing the ICE agents, and giving out their home addresses, and the locations of the hotels they were staying at. You are the f'ing ret4rds responsible for this. Protests that were 100% peaceful in Canada were broken up by officers who were covered up and had no name tags. They were even trampled with horses and Leftards felt that was was perfectly fine. yeah the hypocrisy is insane on this one - the same fools in Canada who were cheering Grandmas being run over by horses and people having their bank accounts frozen by our fascist Liberal government are now the ones dumping in their pants about the actions of brave ICE officers in a foreign country. Cuz they didn't like the bouncy castle people but they love the illegal child rapists. Unbelievable. 1 Quote As Democrat and Liberal governments fall, Republicans and Conservatives come to the rescue.
WestCanMan Posted March 3 Author Report Posted March 3 16 minutes ago, Reg Volk said: yeah the hypocrisy is insane on this one - the same fools in Canada who were cheering Grandmas being run over by horses and people having their bank accounts frozen by our fascist Liberal government are now the ones dumping in their pants about the actions of brave ICE officers in a foreign country. Cuz they didn't like the bouncy castle people but they love the illegal child rapists. Unbelievable. Leftist are protesting the death of a guy who murdered thousands of people just for protesting. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Nationalist Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 (edited) On 3/2/2026 at 3:21 PM, Hodad said: Terrible, awful, thugs of a theocratic, totalitarian regime. Something I'd rather not replicate in the US, but with Trump's secret police force acting with brutality and impunity we're another step closer. Good gravy...can you be any more melodramatic? ICE agents look like any cop except it says ICE on the uniform. There is no "secret". Their job is to track down illegal aliens and arrest them. Same as it's always been. I assume you are not an illegal alien, thus have nothing to fear. Unless, of course, you decide to fight with them and/or obstruction justice. That happens to be illegal. Edited March 3 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Hodad Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 40 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: It was leftists that were doxxing the ICE agents, and giving out their home addresses, and the locations of the hotels they were staying at. You are the f'ing ret4rds responsible for this. Protests that were 100% peaceful in Canada were broken up by officers who were covered up and had no name tags. They were even trampled with horses and Leftards felt that was was perfectly fine. Are regular law enforcement officers like city cops being doxxed? No. Do they have to hide their identities? No. Why the difference? Because the way that ICE is conducting themselves is--again, deliberately and explicitly--not to serve the people of a community, but to terrorize the community so that the undocumented flee. The sequence of events does not start with doxxing and then masks. It goes like this: 1. ICE employs new tactics that are objectively awful, meant to sow terror 2. People see ICE agents behaving in ways that were previously unthinkable and incompatible with the United States 3. Lots of people think this is fundamentally wrong, and a small subset decide that forced transparency--doxxing is a way to holding ICE agents accountable for their actions. Maybe they won't be so shitty if they think people might identify them. 4. ICE says, "Nah, we're really committed to the mission of terror. We'll just put on masks instead." Quote
WestCanMan Posted March 3 Author Report Posted March 3 On 3/2/2026 at 12:21 PM, Hodad said: Trump's secret police force acting with brutality and impunity Can you rattle off a list of countries where you can hit a cop with your car and not get shot at? And don't say "Canada". Our cops had a guy in Vancouver surrounded, who was down on his hands and knees, and the cops shot him about 8 times because he had a bicycle chain. He wasn't even swinging it at anyone - it was just in his hand. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Hodad Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Good gravy...can you be any more melodramatic? ICE agents look like any cop except it says ICE on the uniform. There is no "secret". Their job is to track down illegal aliens and arrest them. Same as it's always been. I assume you are not an illegal alien, thus have nothing to fear. Unless, of course, you decide to fight with them and/or obstruction justice. That happens to be illegal. That's false. There used to be rules of engagement, standards of decency. They functioned as a legitimate branch of law enforcement. ICE has changed those rules and tactics. ICE has changed their recruiting. They are now snatching students off of street corners. Beating and detaining US citizens who happen to be brown. Menacing schools and churches. Illegally arresting people and shipping them off to third-world gulags. It is absolutely and unequivocally NOT normal or business as usual. Edited March 3 by Hodad Quote
Hodad Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Can you rattle off a list of countries where you can hit a cop with your car and not get shot at? And don't say "Canada". Our cops had a guy in Vancouver surrounded, who was down on his hands and knees, and the cops shot him about 8 times because he had a bicycle chain. He wasn't even swinging it at anyone - it was just in his hand. The Goode shooting was one graphic example. -- And that was obviously manufactured danger. Pretti was an even more egregious example. But there's no point re-litigating those. I'm speaking of the general violence they perpetrate at scale. Law enforcement is one thing. Goon squads roving around cracking heads and then checking papers is something new--and something distinctly unamerican. ICE has beaten and detained hundreds of US citizens because of their appearance. They've lost thousands of court cases in rapid succession. And they simply keep doing what they're doing. Even in post-Pretti Minneapolis the response wasn't to change their tactics, it was to move to the suburbs where there were fewer citizens and cameras to watch. Quote
User Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 11 minutes ago, Hodad said: The Goode shooting was one graphic example. -- And that was obviously manufactured danger. Pretti was an even more egregious example. But there's no point re-litigating those. I'm speaking of the general violence they perpetrate at scale. Law enforcement is one thing. Goon squads roving around cracking heads and then checking papers is something new--and something distinctly unamerican. ICE has beaten and detained hundreds of US citizens because of their appearance. They've lost thousands of court cases in rapid succession. And they simply keep doing what they're doing. Even in post-Pretti Minneapolis the response wasn't to change their tactics, it was to move to the suburbs where there were fewer citizens and cameras to watch. There is no point for you because you can’t. You lose on the facts. Instead you have to hide behind the hasty generalizations. You start looking at these cases and the people “beaten” were fighting with police. The people detained were so lawfully for investigation and let go. Stuff that happens routinely every day all across America as part of routine policing, but because you support the open borders lawlessness, you pretend like all of this is new to hate ICE. Quote
WestCanMan Posted March 4 Author Report Posted March 4 This war against Iran couldn't be going any better. Can leftists admit that the threat Iran poses to the rest of the world has gone from "serious, and swiftly approaching lethal, and with extremely hostile intentions", to "almost non-existent"? Nah. Robodolt is still belching out mor0nic "Hey there goes Elvis!" threads as fast as the DNC propaganda machine can roll them out. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Reg Volk Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 Is this Hodad? Quote As Democrat and Liberal governments fall, Republicans and Conservatives come to the rescue.
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