BeaverFever Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 (edited) So…remember when Trump hilariously and falsely claimed he “ended 7 wars (or was it 8?)” and that he deserved the nobel peace prize? Remember when he falsely claimed the person who ACTUALLY won - Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Corina Machado - called him to tell him he should have won and that it rightfully belonged to him? Remember when Trump the “peace-lover” then attacked Venezuela kidnapped its president but left the supposed “narco-terrorist” regime in power to exact retribution on anyone who celebrated the attack because he said Machado “is not respected”? Well now in order to meet Trump and plead for her country, Trump made her hand over her Nobel Peace Prize to him Have you ever heard of anything so childish and depraved and disgusting? Stealing someone’s Nobel Prize doesn’t make you a Nobel Prize winner, not that crook like him would care. https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/trump-meet-venezuelan-opposition-leader-machado-after-praising-its-government-2026-01-15/ Edited January 16 by BeaverFever Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 Here’s something similar - Knut Hamsun sending his Nobel medal to Joe Goebbels himself as a gesture of thanks for this meeting: 1 1 Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
User Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 20 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Well now in order to meet Trump and plead for her country, Trump made her hand over her Nobel Peace Prize to him Have you ever heard of anything so childish and depraved and disgusting? Stealing someone’s Nobel Prize doesn’t make you a Nobel Prize winner, not that crook like him would care. Can you provide the quote that you are using from this link you provided that says Trump made her give that to him? 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted January 16 Author Report Posted January 16 6 minutes ago, User said: Can you provide the quote that you are using from this link you provided that says Trump made her give that to him? I think it’s obvious. If it wasn’t a demand of his she wouldn’t have offered and he wouldn’t have accepted and he’s already on record saying he is the one who really deserves it. Even if you want to go with “this was totally her idea and in no way came from Trump” the very fact that she felt she needed to offer it just to gain an audience with him and the very fact he accepted it -which absolutely NOBODY with a shred of decency would do - tells you what a deplorable scumbag he is. Quote
User Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 1 minute ago, BeaverFever said: I think it’s obvious. If it wasn’t a demand of his she wouldn’t have offered and he wouldn’t have accepted and he’s already on record saying he is the one who really deserves it. Even if you want to go with “this was totally her idea and in no way came from Trump” the very fact that she felt she needed to offer it just to gain an audience with him and the very fact he accepted it -which absolutely NOBODY with a shred of decency would do - tells you what a deplorable scumbag he is. So... you are just making up crap. You did not present this as if it were your subjective opinion, but a fact. You are a liar, as usual. 2 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted January 17 Author Report Posted January 17 Oh look at this open letter today on the Nobel Committee website. I wonder what inspired this? The Nobel Prize and the Laureate Are Inseparable The medal and the diploma are the physical symbols confirming that an individual or organisation has been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. The prize itself – the honour and recognition – remains inseparably linked to the person or organisation designated as the laureate by the Norwegian Nobel Committee. 16 Jan 2026 A Nobel Peace Prize laureate receives two central symbols of the prize: a gold medal and a diploma. In addition, the prize money is awarded separately. Regardless of what may happen to the medal, the diploma, or the prize money, it is and remains the original laureate who is recorded in history as the recipient of the prize. Even if the medal or diploma later comes into someone else’s possession, this does not alter who was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. A laureate cannot share the prize with others, nor transfer it once it has been announced. A Nobel Peace Prize can also never be revoked. The decision is final and applies for all time.… https://www.nobelpeaceprize.org/press/press-releases/the-nobel-prize-and-the-laureate-are-inseparable Quote
BeaverFever Posted January 17 Author Report Posted January 17 5 minutes ago, User said: So... you are just making up crap. You did not present this as if it were your subjective opinion, but a fact. You are a liar, as usual. You guys lie every day from WMD lies to stolen 2020 election lies Any intelligent person can INFER what happened by Trump’s character, his theft of.Venzuela, his stated intent to steal Denmark , his stated desire for the Nobel Prize that she won, his previous lie thatbshe said he truly deserved it. Believing Trump didn’t force her to hand it over doesn’t make him any less deplorable. The fact that he accepted it under any circumstances is dishonourable enough. Quote
User Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Oh look at this open letter today on the Nobel Committee website. I wonder what inspired this? Politics. Instead of letting someone make their own heartfelt gesture to give their medal to someone else, they must interject to make sure the world knows that Trump is not officially getting anything. Just now, BeaverFever said: You guys lie every day from WMD lies to stolen 2020 election lies Any intelligent person can INFER what happened by Trump’s character, his theft of.Venzuela, his stated intent to steal Denmark , his stated desire for the Nobel Prize that she won, his previous lie thatbshe said he truly deserved it. Believing Trump didn’t force her to hand it over doesn’t make him any less deplorable. The fact that he accepted it under any circumstances is dishonourable enough. So... your excuse is that you lie because others do? Brilliant. I mean, this certainly makes you more deplorable. Quote
Politics1990 Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 i mean it still has her name on it.. the guys ego really is amazing he's such a petty little toddler Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, User said: So... you are just making up crap. You did not present this as if it were your subjective opinion, but a fact. You are a liar, as usual. Here’s a question for you: why on earth did he accept it? He wasn’t forced to and no normal person would do that. 27 minutes ago, Politics1990 said: i mean it still has her name on it.. the guys ego really is amazing he's such a petty little toddler How humiliating for a country to see your head of government do that. Edited January 17 by SpankyMcFarland 1 Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
WestCanMan Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 100% a classier, more humble person never would have accepted the reward. 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
User Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 (edited) 51 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Here’s a question for you: why on earth did he accept it? He wasn’t forced to and no normal person would do that. Normal people do, in fact, accept gifts from other people. Either way, the point remains that @BeaverFever lied several times claiming he forced her to and stole it from her. Edited January 17 by User Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 (edited) 23 minutes ago, User said: Normal people do, in fact, accept gifts from other people. Either way, the point remains that @BeaverFever lied several times claiming he forced her to and stole it from her. Normal people do not accept Nobel prize medals from other people. It’s unseemly and grotesque. Do you really have to be told that? Do you really have to defend every disgraceful thing this excuse for a human being does? Edited January 17 by SpankyMcFarland 1 Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
User Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 14 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Normal people do not accept Nobel prize medals from other people. It’s unseemly and grotesque. Do you really have to be told that? Do you really have to defend every disgraceful thing this excuse for a human being does? Well... anything on this scale is not normal, but the concept of people accepting gifts of great significance from others is normal. I just don't get worked up over this stuff like you Trump haters do. You spend all your time thinking of the next thing to be bothered by that is meaningless or just an outright lie. Quote
CdnFox Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 3 hours ago, BeaverFever said: So…remember when Trump hilariously and falsely claimed he “ended 7 wars (or was it 8?)” and that he deserved the nobel peace prize? Remember when he falsely claimed the person who ACTUALLY won - Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Corina Machado - called him to tell him he should have won and that it rightfully belonged to him? Remember when Trump the “peace-lover” then attacked Venezuela kidnapped its president but left the supposed “narco-terrorist” regime in power to exact retribution on anyone who celebrated the attack because he said Machado “is not respected”? Well now in order to meet Trump and plead for her country, Trump made her hand over her Nobel Peace Prize to him Have you ever heard of anything so childish and depraved and disgusting? Stealing someone’s Nobel Prize doesn’t make you a Nobel Prize winner, not that crook like him would care. https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/trump-meet-venezuelan-opposition-leader-machado-after-praising-its-government-2026-01-15/ A little bit of truth twisting there. I don't remember him cleaning to end a wars or the like, but then again I may have missed it and it does sound like the kind of thing you would claim so I'll let that one slide But he definitely did not attack Venezuela.The Maduro is not recognized as the legitimate government of that country. If you have to lie to make a point you haven't got a very good point Nor does it seem that he's forcing her to do anything. The story indicates it was her idea. I don't doubt that he would be willing to force her but to be perfectly honest it sounds more like something she came up with believing it would win favor with him. Kind of like the soccer people did. And to be honest that's the most believable scenario for me, that she figured this would be a great way to try and win his favor. So your claim that he's forcing her is absolutely not in evidence, neither from the story nor common sense. Again, if you have to lie in order to make your point you don't have a very good point. The real chuckle here should have been that she did it and it worked. If it were me I would be like why do I want your garbage, I'll go win my own if I can but apparently he actually is taking it as an honor Which is funny. But that's really the only story here 2 hours ago, BeaverFever said: You guys lie every day from WMD lies to stolen 2020 election lies So you admit you were lying but you feel that it was justified because someone else at some other point that isn't us lied about something I think you need to give your moral compass a tap a couple times, it might be stuck in the wrong direction Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
robosmith Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: 100% a classier, more humble person never would have accepted the reward. You're right. Most people would not want it because of what it says about him that he considers the superficial to be meaningful. But he is just a conman and a grifter, so it's expected. Quote
BeaverFever Posted January 17 Author Report Posted January 17 2 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Here’s a question for you: why on earth did he accept it? He wasn’t forced to and no normal person would do that. It was the price of admission to get an audience with him. Trump is now running the “narcoterrorist” regime that is still ruling Venezuela and she is the leader of the rightfully elected party yet Trump refuses to hand over power to her. So she has important business to discuss with him and is willing to pay the access fee. I guess she didn’t have the money for the half million per year Trump family bribe club fee or to launder funds into his crypto accounts 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted January 17 Author Report Posted January 17 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: don't remember him cleaning to end a wars or the like That’s been a repeat claim of his and his spokespeople Sometimes they say 7 wars, IIRC sometimes they say 8 wars. For the record he has ended zero wars. 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: But he definitely did not attack Venezuela.The Maduro is not recognized as the legitimate government of that country. If you have to lie to make a point you haven't got a very good point Dude it’s an attack whether he’s the legitimate leader or not, whether it was justified or not. An attack is not a subjective term Attack means to use aggressive force against someone. . We attacked the Nazis in Dday. Americans attacked the Japanese at Iwo Jima. Dozens of Venezuelan soldiers were killed and power plants were hit. It’s literally the definition of “attack”. Words don’t care about feelings. And stop calling scything a “lie” when it isn’t one. 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: So you admit you were lying but you feel that it was justified because someone else at some other point that isn't us lied about something No I’m just calling out rhe hypocrisy of the right’s endless stream of lies and baseless accusations and then you scream “LIE!!!” whenever they hear something they’d rather not hear 1 Quote
User Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: It was the price of admission to get an audience with him. Trump is now running the “narcoterrorist” regime that is still ruling Venezuela and she is the leader of the rightfully elected party yet Trump refuses to hand over power to her. So she has important business to discuss with him and is willing to pay the access fee. I guess she didn’t have the money for the half million per year Trump family bribe club fee or to launder funds into his crypto accounts Once again, you are full of shit. There was no price of admission. Trump is not in power; he has nothing to hand over. 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: No I’m just calling out rhe hypocrisy of the right’s endless stream of lies and baseless accusations and then you scream “LIE!!!” whenever they hear something they’d rather not hear No, you actually lied here and now you are crying about other people so you can try to distract and justify it. Quote
CdnFox Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 2 hours ago, BeaverFever said: That’s been a repeat claim of his and his spokespeople Sometimes they say 7 wars, IIRC sometimes they say 8 wars. For the record he has ended zero wars. Not going to argue it, like i said i haven't heard it but it sounds like something he'd say Quote Dude it’s an attack whether he’s the legitimate leader or not No it isn't. Or at least not on the country. Quote , whether it was justified or not. No it isn't. Quote An attack is not a subjective term Attack means to use aggressive force against someone. Someone/ Sure. You want to say they attacked maduro then fine. But he is not the country nor is he the leader of the country. Quote We attacked the Nazis in Dday But not france. Even tho the nazi's were in france. Nobody claims we attacked the nation of france even tho the nazis were in control of it. You literally just proved my point. You could say madeuro was 'attacked', tho 'arrested' is more accurate. But you can't say that venezuela was attacked. Just like you can say the nazis were attacked on dday but not that france was. Swing and a miss big guy. 2 hours ago, BeaverFever said: No I’m just calling out rhe hypocrisy of the right’s endless stream of lies Quote No I’m just calling out rhe hypocrisy of the right’s endless stream of lies and baseless accusations and then you scream “LIE!!!” whenever they hear something they’d rather not hear By lying yourself? Do you not understand that would make YOU the hypocrite in that situation? Not 'the right'? You actually did lie. You make statements that were untrue. And you and Minnie on the left frequently do that to try and support your ideology when the facts don't support you You claimed as fact she was forced to give up her prize by trump. That appears based on all evidence to be a lie. The source YOU YOURSELF provided completely refutes that. Kid. You cannot get mad at me for saying you lied if you lie. I could at least have accepted "attacked venezuela" as being GROSS hyperbole and 'twisting' the truth for propaganda rather than lying if i was being EXTREMELY generous, but the bit about forcing her to do this? THat is not what she said AND it's not really like trump and it IS like her. So you just 100 percent made that up and then presented it as fact. What WOULD you call that? Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Barquentine Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 13 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Here’s a question for you: why on earth did he accept it? He wasn’t forced to and no normal person would do that. Saddest part is he's going to screw her over and not support her for Venezuelan leader. Quote
robosmith Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 16 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Here’s a question for you: why on earth did he accept it? He wasn’t forced to and no normal person would do that. How humiliating for a country to see your head of government do that. What else would you expect from a guy who prints up fake Time magazine covers with pics of himself, and frames them on his walls hoping his rubes won't suspect he did that? 3 hours ago, Barquentine said: Saddest part is he's going to screw her over and not support her for Venezuelan leader. Either she expected that, or she's a FOOL to believe Trump cares whether the medal is fake in his possession. Quote
John Stone Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 Why did he accept it? Demonstrates power / control over another individual. Quote
robosmith Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 1 minute ago, John Stone said: Why did he accept it? Demonstrates power / control over another individual. AKA a BULLY. And MAGAts love BULLIES until they are the victims. Quote
John Stone Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, robosmith said: AKA a BULLY. And MAGAts love BULLIES until they are the victims. It is not bullying per se. at the risk of repeating myself - 'it is a demonstration of power" If the King of Canada stated publicly that MAGA is great? You might not agree or you might .......... but the point will have been made that the originator, has control. Edited January 17 by John Stone Quote
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