Trump the Con Man strikes again

[Radiorum]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

One of us did. I don't think it's me. I'm consistent.

Carney passed the budget bill. One big beautiful budget bill you might say   

And from that he is going to pay raises and bonuses to military personnel

You have characterized this Behavior as being a con job. So I expect you to condemn him for it.

You're not being hypocritical are you?

re-read the  posts, slowly

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

re-read the  posts, slowly

You hoping that your hypocrisy will turn out to be speed dependent  

Carney announced the pay rise for the miiltary at the beginning of the year,  then announced a 'retroactive pay rise' later in the year

Prime Minister Carney announces pay raises for the Canadian Armed Forces | Prime Minister of Canada

Kid.  You're not looking good here. 

Is carney a con man? Or is trump NOT a con man? Doesn't sound like you can have it both ways, sorry. 

[Radiorum]

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Is carney a con man? Or is trump NOT a con man?

OMFG! the con played by Trump was not that he announced that he would give money to service members.

I really don't like repeating myself. re-read my posts and let me know is you have any questions about them.

[CdnFox]

14 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

OMFG! the con played by Trump was not that he announced that he would give money to service members.

 

Okay big guy, what is it?

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I really don't like repeating myself. re-read my posts and let me know is you have any questions about them.

So in other words you can't articulate the issue and you're hoping that I'll just randomly go around and find something that might fit.

You've replied three times now and you can't take the time to just simply say what the con is

. It certainly wasn't in your original post which is where you'd expect to see an explanation if you meant something different than what you posted

Kind of sounding like you're the con man here kiddo.

If you're referring to the bit where you try and pretend that somehow it's not coming from tariffs, that would be a lie. Tear if money goes into general revenue which is where this will be coming from. So it's perfectly fair to say it's being paid for by tariffs if that's how you want to look at it

And once again he's announcing something that has already been announced. Same as carney

 

So what happened here is you got caught out for your hypocrisy and now you're running from it and trying to pretend it's my fault.

This thread is not looking good on you kiddo. Now are you going to condemn carney for doing the exact same thing that trump did or are you going to pretend that it's okay when the left does it but terrible when the right does?

[Radiorum]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

So in other words you can't articulate the issue and you're hoping that I'll just randomly go around and find something that might fit.

You've replied three times now and you can't take the time to just simply say what the con is

. It certainly wasn't in your original post which is where you'd expect to see an explanation if you meant something different than what you posted

Kind of sounding like you're the con man here kiddo.

If you're referring to the bit where you try and pretend that somehow it's not coming from tariffs, that would be a lie. Tear if money goes into general revenue which is where this will be coming from. So it's perfectly fair to say it's being paid for by tariffs if that's how you want to look at it

And once again he's announcing something that has already been announced. Same as carney

 

So what happened here is you got caught out for your hypocrisy and now you're running from it and trying to pretend it's my fault.

This thread is not looking good on you kiddo. Now are you going to condemn carney for doing the exact same thing that trump did or are you going to pretend that it's okay when the left does it but terrible when the right does?

Gaslighting

[Legato]

3 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Gaslighting

An answer bereft of fact. Amorphous in the extreme.

Gaslighting is your regular modus operandum.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

Gaslighting

Only a leftie would think that simple facts and truth is "gaslighting".

Trump did something every politician in the history of mankind did, reannounce a previous announcement and make it sound exciting, and you're trying to pass it off as a "con job", only to get cornered when confronted by the fact poliicians you like do EXACTLY THE SAME THING 

Remember when carney promised he'd pay for displaced workers "with tariff money", despite the fact it just goes into general revenue?

The sad thing here is that there's plenty of legitimate things to criticize trump about. But apparently you think trump is so great, that the only way you can criticize him is to create fake controversy that is easily challenged. 

Really so enamored with trump's performance that you have to conjure up false accusations? Do better.

[User]

5 hours ago, Radiorum said:

You missed the point

No, we got the point, you are willing to push any lie and in the end are just as bad as you think Trump is. 

[robosmith]

9 hours ago, Legato said:

You hijacked a conversation train with nonsense and an incorrect answer.

Well done.

Says the guy who never understands what is posted here.

[User]

12 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Says the guy who never understands what is posted here.

How would you know when you cowardly hide from most of it and run away from the rest?

[CdnFox]

17 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Says the guy who never understands what is posted here.

Pot, meet kettle.  Kettle, pot. 

[Radiorum]

To pretend that you've just decided to award bonuses to service members, but in actuality are just giving them money that was already theirs, is a con. Full stop.  

Anyway, on to the next featured con:

Trump says they are blowing up boats in the ocean to stop the import of drugs. They say this is part of an "armed conflict" with unspecified drug cartels, although there is none. Trump falsely redefines these civilians he is murdering as "combatants" - and targets them as "narco-terrorists" worthy of extrajudicial execution. 

As Pete Hegseth said: “Core national interest, the safety of the American people, stop the killing, stop the poisoning of the American people. It’s as simple as that.”

But there have been some who did not buy this justification, who say that blowing up the boats is not about any kind of drug action, but rather regime change in Venezuela, and now Susie Wiles, in the Vanity Fair interview, has revealed the truth of the matter – it is after all about regime change:

“He wants to keep on blowing boats up until Maduro cries uncle,” Wiles said. “And people way smarter than me on that say that he will.”

[Legato]

39 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

To pretend that you've just decided to award bonuses to service members, but in actuality are just giving them money that was already theirs, is a con. Full stop.  

Anyway, on to the next featured con:

Trump says they are blowing up boats in the ocean to stop the import of drugs. They say this is part of an "armed conflict" with unspecified drug cartels, although there is none. Trump falsely redefines these civilians he is murdering as "combatants" - and targets them as "narco-terrorists" worthy of extrajudicial execution. 

As Pete Hegseth said: “Core national interest, the safety of the American people, stop the killing, stop the poisoning of the American people. It’s as simple as that.”

But there have been some who did not buy this justification, who say that blowing up the boats is not about any kind of drug action, but rather regime change in Venezuela, and now Susie Wiles, in the Vanity Fair interview, has revealed the truth of the matter – it is after all about regime change:

“He wants to keep on blowing boats up until Maduro cries uncle,” Wiles said. “And people way smarter than me on that say that he will.”

 

[Radiorum]

@Legato - a simple fact check would reveal to you that that particular law did not make it legal to blow boats out of the water. There is nothing in it about unrestricted use of force.

Ian Ralby (archived here), an attorney and non-resident senior fellow at the Center for Maritime Strategy who specializes in maritime security, told Lead Stories via email about the 1986 Maritime Drug Law Enforcement Act:

No, it 100% does not make it legal 'to take out drug boats' by blowing them up in the fashion pursued by the Trump Administration. The MDLEA is a domestic law that allows the United States to engage in law enforcement operations against vessels suspected of drug trafficking outside the territory of the United States.

He continued:

... there is no area of law enforcement that would allow for extraterritorial and extrajudicial summary executions as have occurred in these several dozen incidents. None of these attacks can be construed as law enforcement operations.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/fact-check-maritime-drug-law-074942943.html

 

Besides, your post does not answer mine - the point is that these boat strikes are not based on any drug action, but effecting regime change in Venezuela., despite the spectacle Trump is using to distract the American people from his real purposes.

 “We want it back,” (Trump) added. “They took our oil rights — we had a lot of oil there. As you know they threw our companies out, and we want it back.”

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-we-want-it-back-trump-demands-venezuela-return-land-oil-rights-to-u-s

[Legato]

16 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

@Legato - a simple fact check would reveal to you that that particular law did not make it legal to blow boats out of the water. There is nothing in it about unrestricted use of force.

Ian Ralby (archived here), an attorney and non-resident senior fellow at the Center for Maritime Strategy who specializes in maritime security, told Lead Stories via email about the 1986 Maritime Drug Law Enforcement Act:

No, it 100% does not make it legal 'to take out drug boats' by blowing them up in the fashion pursued by the Trump Administration. The MDLEA is a domestic law that allows the United States to engage in law enforcement operations against vessels suspected of drug trafficking outside the territory of the United States.

He continued:

... there is no area of law enforcement that would allow for extraterritorial and extrajudicial summary executions as have occurred in these several dozen incidents. None of these attacks can be construed as law enforcement operations.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/fact-check-maritime-drug-law-074942943.html

 

Besides, your post does not answer mine - the point is that these boat strikes are not based on any drug action, but effecting regime change in Venezuela., despite the spectacle Trump is using to distract the American people from his real purposes.

 “We want it back,” (Trump) added. “They took our oil rights — we had a lot of oil there. As you know they threw our companies out, and we want it back.”

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-we-want-it-back-trump-demands-venezuela-return-land-oil-rights-to-u-s

"The Maritime Drug Law Enforcement Act (MDLEA) of 1986 is a U.S. federal law giving American authorities, primarily the Coast Guard, broad power to interdict drug trafficking on the high seas, even on foreign-flagged vessels, by applying U.S. law extraterritorially with flag-state consent, making it illegal to possess, manufacture, or distribute drugs on covered vessels, and establishing severe penalties, but its expansive reach has sparked debate about constitutionality and fairness". 

 

[Deluge]

22 hours ago, User said:

I don't get. There is a laundry list of things to actually criticize Trump for, but they always have to create some kind of lie to attack him with. 

That's because they're OK with the stuff that he could actually be criticized for.

For example: DOGE is already somewhere in the background, if not shut down completely, and I'm sure the democrats are praising their holiday tree over that one. 

Edited December 20, 2025 by Deluge

[Radiorum]

2 hours ago, Radiorum said:

To pretend that you've just decided to award bonuses to service members, but in actuality are just giving them money that was already theirs, is a con. Full stop.  

the following quote is something I just read just now:

The trick is older than the humidity. Take something tired. Wrap it in bravado. Demand applause.

That is what the Trump administration just did with this so-called 1776 Warrior Dividend.

It was a dog and pony show. Not even a polished one. The kind of county-fair routine where somebody drags out a plywood stage, plugs a microphone into a generator, and insists you are witnessing history. Nothing about that announcement was governance. It was choreography. It was a branding activation disguised as gratitude. A patriotic number. A heroic noun. And a pot of money that already existed, already appropriated, already pointed at military housing needs.

They did not create anything. They renamed something.

That is the dog. That is the pony. Look over here. Do not notice the ledger.

Inside the 1776 Rebrand – A Dog-and-Pony Show Masquerading as Military Support

 

 

[User]

2 hours ago, Radiorum said:

the following quote is something I just read just now:

You should try reading what Trump actually said. 

[herbie]

1 hour ago, User said:

You should try reading what Trump actually said. 

That YELLING out lies makes them even more true.

1776 dollars how f*cking shamelessly shallow can you get?

[Legato]

8 minutes ago, herbie said:

1776 dollars how f*cking shamelessly shallow can you get?

I don't know. You're the expert, please do tell us.

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, Radiorum said:

To pretend that you've just decided to award bonuses to service members, but in actuality are just giving them money that was already theirs, is a con. Full stop.  

 

Carney is done the same thing. As I pointed out. So is carnicon job artist as well?

I get why you didn't answer me. You're thoroughly embarrassed about your behavior now that you've been called out on it.

Do better next time. If you genuinely can't find something legitimate to criticize trump over you should seriously consider changing your vote

11 minutes ago, herbie said:

That YELLING out lies makes them even more true.

1776 dollars how f*cking shamelessly shallow can you get?

When did he say that?

Oh wait. You had nothing intelligent to offer but you're blind hatred of trump and all things right of Castro caused you to just randomly insert some nonsense accusations that aren't relevant or based on anything

Yeah. That's about what we expect from you

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, Radiorum said:

@Legato - a simple fact check would reveal to you that that particular law did not make it legal to blow boats out of the water. There is nothing in it about unrestricted use of force.

Ian Ralby (archived here), an attorney and non-resident senior fellow at the Center for Maritime Strategy who specializes in maritime security, told Lead Stories via email about the 1986 Maritime Drug Law Enforcement Act:

No, it 100% does not make it legal 'to take out drug boats' by blowing them up in the fashion pursued by the Trump Administration. The MDLEA is a domestic law that allows the United States to engage in law enforcement operations against vessels suspected of drug trafficking outside the territory of the United States.

He continued:

... there is no area of law enforcement that would allow for extraterritorial and extrajudicial summary executions as have occurred in these several dozen incidents. None of these attacks can be construed as law enforcement operations.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/fact-check-maritime-drug-law-074942943.html

 

Besides, your post does not answer mine - the point is that these boat strikes are not based on any drug action, but effecting regime change in Venezuela., despite the spectacle Trump is using to distract the American people from his real purposes.

 “We want it back,” (Trump) added. “They took our oil rights — we had a lot of oil there. As you know they threw our companies out, and we want it back.”

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-we-want-it-back-trump-demands-venezuela-return-land-oil-rights-to-u-s

^Trump's LYING CON. The US companies never owned the Venezuelan oil.

They had a license to pump it for a SHARE of the profits.

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, Legato said:

"The Maritime Drug Law Enforcement Act (MDLEA) of 1986 is a U.S. federal law giving American authorities, primarily the Coast Guard, broad power to interdict drug trafficking on the high seas, even on foreign-flagged vessels, by applying U.S. law extraterritorially with flag-state consent, making it illegal to possess, manufacture, or distribute drugs on covered vessels, and establishing severe penalties, but its expansive reach has sparked debate about constitutionality and fairness". 

Do you IMAGINE that "interdiction" means total destruction of boats and crews?  LMAO

AKA you're an lDIOT.

Before Trump, interdiction WAS the SOP according the SoS Rubio.

[User]

41 minutes ago, herbie said:

That YELLING out lies makes them even more true.

1776 dollars how f*cking shamelessly shallow can you get?

I realize 1776 has little meaning to you... but it does to many people in America. Nothing shallow about it. 

 

[Legato]

7 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Do you IMAGINE that "interdiction" means total destruction of boats and crews?  LMAO

AKA you're an lDIOT.

Before Trump, interdiction WAS the SOP according the SoS Rubio.

Of course it can, wimp outs prevent nothing. 

Does your interdiction make you knee tremble?