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This is shocking but true.   Canada is putting 8 million dollars into helping farmers in Nicaragua.   Meanwhile Carney's 100% tariff on Chinese EVs is killing the Canola farming in Manitoba and Saskatchewan. 

Many Canadians are also forced to go to food banks to get enough food for their families.

People can't afford to buy a home because of the high cost of homes.   Cities are full of street people living in tents or sleeping in doorways.

Why is this happening?  Well, the one reason would appear to be because Carney is a globalist and feels he is representing all countries, not just Canada and must give aid (our tax money) to various other countries in the world.  He has been a major official on many international organizations such as the World Economic Forum and the Vatican.  Therefore we as Canadians must pay for any of his global pet projects.  Nicaragua is largely a Catholic country and so Canada must help them.  Ask the Vatican.  They will tell you.

Canada provides cash for help small-scale farmers in Nicaragua – David Akin’s On The Hill

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If you are genuinely still shocked by the fact that he doesn't care about Canadians and only does things that benefits him in some way, I can only assume you haven't been paying attention until this point

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Had better start running."

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Yes it's just awful. Let's put tariffs on Nicaragua we must protect our own coffee and sugar plantations! And the banana growers in Nunavut!

OMG how damn hypocritical can you get as to profess your Christianity and suggest we stop all foreign aid and spend it on ourselves?

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3 hours ago, blackbird said:

Why is this happening? 

It must be Satan messing with mankind again. It happens all the time apparently. Someone should pass a law or something.

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I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

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1 hour ago, herbie said:

Yes it's just awful. Let's put tariffs on Nicaragua we must protect our own coffee and sugar plantations! And the banana growers in Nunavut!

OMG how damn hypocritical can you get as to profess your Christianity and suggest we stop all foreign aid and spend it on ourselves?

Where do you think foreign aid money comes from?   Rob the taxpayers to spread around the world.  We don't need politicians who make $400,000 a year plus robbing taxpayer's money to spread around the world.

How about promoting personal charity instead of Communism?  Jesus never advocated Communism.  When was the last time you read the Bible?

 

Why doesn't Carney ask the Pope to start giving billions of dollars to Nicaragua and all the other poor countries?  Carney had a high position in the Vatican and has lots of connections.   The Vatican is the richest corporation in the world and has billions, probably trillions of dollars in banks and real estate.

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25 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It must be Satan messing with mankind again. It happens all the time apparently. Someone should pass a law or something.

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FIRST READING: The Canadian taxpayer money funding and enabling Hamas

The Trudeau government has contributed more than $100 million to a UN agency with a lengthy history of enabling Palestinian extremism"

The Canadian taxpayer money funding and enabling Hamas | National Post

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2 hours ago, herbie said:

OMG how damn hypocritical can you get as to profess your Christianity and suggest we stop all foreign aid and spend it on ourselves?

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All Forms of Socialism Are Theft

Central to the moral argument against socialism and quasi-socialism is the 8th commandment: 

You shall not steal (Exodus 20:15; Deuteronomy 5:19).

This command teaches the concept of private property and forbids the taking of property from an innocent person. God added to this condemnation of socialism by prohibiting envy in the 10th commandment:

You shall not covet (Exodus 20:17; Deuteronomy 5:21).  

God is a capitalist, which we know because God endorses private property. This is inferred from the 8th commandment. The prohibition of theft assumes that people own things. Of course, everything in this world belongs to God. Yet He has delegated control and responsibility of things to individuals. We call this private property rights.

Everyone understands this concept. No one likes others stealing their belongings, and they therefore do things to prevent theft, such as lock their door at night. It is also the case that every civilized society prohibits theft. People have property rights, and the government should protect such rights.

Yet this all breaks down for many people when the government gets involved. It is wrong for Bob to take a quarter of your income. But if Bob and his friends lobby the government, politicians pass legislation, and the government gives one quarter of your money to Bob, then all is right.

This is exactly how the typical Western welfare state works. The government enacts a variety of taxes (sales tax, income tax, FICA, tariffs, etc.) and then redistributes the money to a variety of classes (the poor, students, elderly, disabled, politically well-connected, etc.). But this is not called “theft” because, well, the government says so. This situation exposes one of the chief flaws of democracy, a system where two wolves and a lamb vote on what to eat for dinner.

Thus, modern societies have made an exception to the 8th commandment—“You shall not steal, except by majority vote.” One person cannot take your stuff, but if enough people vote to take your stuff, then it is “legal.” And if it is legal, then it is morally acceptable.

Christians are enabling this problem by limiting the 8th commandment to individuals instead of societies. However, the 8th commandment provides no such limitation. Groups are made up of individuals, and stealing is still stealing when done by a group.  unquote

The Bible Prohibits Socialism — Knowing Scripture

Nothing wrong with individual charity.  We have lots of charitable organizations that help the poor in other countries.   How much have you donated to private charities?

You like the government to give taxpayer's money to other countries but that is stealing from taxpayers to give to others.  That is not charity.  That is Socialism.

You also accuse me for opposing Socialism.  But you are a false accuser because Socialism is against the Bible. 

 

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13 minutes ago, blackbird said:

All Forms of Socialism Are Theft

Any government is a social institution. All governments tax whatever society created them. All governments are by your definition socialist.

16 minutes ago, blackbird said:

God is a capitalist

He's clearly a commie.

And he commands us to do as we're told.

I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

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47 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Any government is a social institution. All governments tax whatever society created them. All governments are by your definition socialist.

False.   Nice try but you obviously don't understand the world and what we're talking about.

1.  There are capitalist governments and there are Socialist governments in the world.  Some governments are far more Socialist than others.

2.  The subject is our government using taxpayer money to send to foreign countries instead of taking care of Canadians.  That is a form of global Socialism.  Seems that Carney is more interested in taking care of the rest of the world than the people of Canada whom he was elected to serve.   That should come as no surprise because he has been a strong globalist for years.  He held positions on the WEF, the UN, the Vatican, and various other international organizations.  So that seems to be where his interests lie.  

Of course the Liberal party is that way too.  They have a history of diving into global matters and have been whole-hearted supporters of the U.N.  What can we expect when the Liberals are globalists as well as Socialists.  The Liberal PMs, their ministers and entourage love to jet set around the world and wine and dine with the other globalists.  What can we expect? 

Under Trudeau 276 delegates from Canada went to the Paris climate conference at taxpayer expense.  More than any other G7 country.  Remember that?  We the taxpayers are being used constantly as suckers.

  We put them in those positions and give them a free reign on taxpayer money and they are using it to their advantage as much as possible.  Nothing like living high off the hog at other's expense.

But the rest of us must work in ordinary jobs and pay for all this luxury living by politicians.

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5 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Some governments are far more Socialist than others.

All state spending is social in nature as is government itself. A family is a social grouping.

Is the word social even in the Bible?

I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

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6 minutes ago, eyeball said:

All state spending is social in nature as is government itself. A family is a social grouping.

Is the word social even in the Bible?

Another article says "Smyth: Canada sent 383 people to the UN climate conference, more than Australia, the U.K. and U.S. together"

Our governments have been ripping off the taxpayers for years and continue to do so.  Why don't the RCMP investigate this?

Socialism apparently is just a rip off of taxpayers.  Whatever politicians decide is in their interests to do, they do it and you and I pay for it.   Once you give them a free reign over our money, there is no end to the spending.  They will even spend Canadians into vast debt, like now, a 100 billion dollar debt coming up soon.

But what do you care about all this spending of taxpayer money?  You and herbie are blind, deceived supporters of Liberals.  In your mind they can do no wrong, right?

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3 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Our governments have been ripping off the taxpayers for years and continue to do so.  

Yeah it's been going on since before Ceasar and we all know what God says about that.

So is the word social even in the Bible or not?

I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

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Good God some people have no idea of reality. Think foreign aid is communism because they're not personally involved in who it goes to. That the economy is a static pie and dependent on how much you have in the bank. That their personal situation is related to how much someone else makes (except when it's less).

Blackbird, your argument is specious, your entire outlook coloured on the basis any level of socialism is bad, because you're basically an anti-social person. No problem with what you put in the Church collection plate, but against any govt spending your tax money the exact same way.

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2 hours ago, eyeball said:

All state spending is social in nature as is government itself.

No,  most gov't spending isn't social in nature.  Gov't is tasked with managing the individual rights that are vested in a central authority.  So spending on courts for example is not social, it's the management of individual rights. We do that instead of shooting each other (lucky you :) ).   

Military spending is not social. Again it is there to protect and defend the common interests and individual rights of the population, not 'society'..  Even the maintenance of common infrastructure such as roads is not societal or social, it's management of assets for which we as individuals have a common interests.

The CBC is social. It does not represent a vested individual right or management of a common asset. 

It's disappointing that i need to explain the difference to a grown ass adult. 

"That which doesn't kill me...

Had better start running."

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7 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Gov't is tasked with managing the individual rights that are vested in a central authority

Vested by...wait for it...society!

I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

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2 hours ago, eyeball said:

So is the word social even in the Bible or not?

I tried several searches for the word social in the King James Bible but could not find a list.

All I get is references to verses that use the idea of social.  But those have nothing to do with Socialism.  

"Key point: Exodus 20:15, Exodus 20:17, Ephesians 4:28, and 2 Thessalonians 3:10 are four of many passages destroying socialism and upholding the tenets of free enterprise."

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1 minute ago, eyeball said:

Vested by...wait for it...society!

What? Don't hold your breath, or are you buying your vests from the Tamarack's

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Just now, blackbird said:

I tried several searches for the word social in the King James Bible but could not find a list.

All I get is references to verses that use the idea of social.  But those have nothing to do with Socialism.  

So why do you keep insisting the Bible says God is clear about socialism... and why the heck do you insist on capitalizing the word Socialism as if it were in the Bible? It seems you're attempting to put words into God's mouth. Isn't that some sort of sin?

I guess one day you people will have to come up with a New Improved Testament to fill in the holes scholars in the past neglected.

I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

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15 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Vested by...wait for it...society!

No,  society never signed the constitutional documents.

Show me where you're seeing "society" has rights or is a signatory on the constitution.

Sorry kiddo,  society doesn't create gov't and gov't does not create society. 

LOL you were homeschooled weren't you. 

 

3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

So why do you keep insisting the Bible says God is clear about socialism..

Socialism and society are not synonymous, 

"That which doesn't kill me...

Had better start running."

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12 minutes ago, Legato said:

What? Don't hold your breath, or are you buying your vests from the Tamarack's

No, like most people I invest or endow the authorities with the task of managing our rights with an x on a ballot.

You pay cash do you? I'm pretty sure that's against the law.

 

I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

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1 minute ago, eyeball said:

So why do you keep insisting the Bible says God is clear about socialism... and why the heck do you insist on capitalizing the word Socialism as if it were in the Bible? It seems you're attempting to put words into God's mouth. Isn't that some sort of sin?

I guess one day you people will have to come up with a New Improved Testament to fill in the holes scholars in the past neglected.

The word social has a different meaning than the word Socialism.

social   -    

 tending to form cooperative and interdependent relationships with others

Infants can become social beings only through interaction with others.—Gerald R. Leslie and Sheila K. Korman

: living and breeding in more or less organized communities especially for the purposes of cooperation and mutual benefit : not solitary

socialism  -  : any of various egalitarian economic and political theories or movements advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.

   The word social refers to relationships between individuals.

  Socialism is not the same at all.  It is a political ideology or system.

The word Socialism may be capitalized because it is the name of a political system..  same with the word Capitalism or Communism.  Nothing wrong with capitalizing the word.   I never said the word Socialism is in the Bible and never pretended it was.  You love to make things up don't you.

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5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

No,  society never signed the constitutional documents.

Sigh...no, we elected representatives to do that for us.

It's sad that someone always has to explain how the system works to you.

Fùck off for five years or so and read a book or two on the subject.

I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

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4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, like most people I invest or endow the authorities with the task of managing our rights with an x on a ballot.

You pay cash do you? I'm pretty sure that's against the law.

 

So is it a family trait to keep misplacing the "X"?

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1 minute ago, blackbird said:

   I never said the word Socialism is in the Bible and never pretended it was.  You love to make things up don't you.

You've made it very clear the Bible and God are dead set against something neither saw fit to even mention.

Just now, Legato said:

So is it a family trait to keep misplacing the "X"?

Goalposts 

I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

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12 minutes ago, eyeball said:

So why do you keep insisting the Bible says God is clear about socialism...

I think I posted the article that explains that.  I guess you never read it.   

Socialism is basically stealing;  that's why the Bible is against it.

I possibly incorrectly capitalized the word.  But I wasn't capitalizing it to make it look like it was in the Bible.  You are making up a false accusation again.

I just looked up capitalization of the word and found it is capitalized if is referring to a particular political party or its members.

It is not capitalized when used in discussion about political ideologies.  I learned something there.

However, if it part of the title of an article it is correct to capitalize it.  Title of articles are often capitalized.   Nothing wrong with that.

The bottom line it is a matter of individual preference if someone wants to capitalize a word to give it more prominence right?  Sometimes people capitalize every character in a word to emphasize it.  Is that a crime?

 

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