Video Footage of terrorist attack in Surrey BC, Suspect in custody

[herbie]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

Deporting people here illegally is fascist? 

Want me to argue against your straw man? Yes it is if they aren't given due process. Adherence to law and civil rights is a base idea of conservatism, disregard for those is fascism.

As for the discussion, none of the parties mentioned is an illegal alien. That's what makes your reply a straw man argument.

Edited August 25, 2025 by herbie

[CdnFox]

55 minutes ago, herbie said:

Want me to argue against your straw man? Yes it is if they aren't given due process. Adherence to law and civil rights is a base idea of conservatism, disregard for those is fascism.

 

Then we'll just change the law and you'll be fine with that right? I mean if the law says kick them out upon capture you'll agree?  You wouldn't want to be fascist right?

[I am Groot]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Want me to argue against your straw man? Yes it is if they aren't given due process. Adherence to law and civil rights is a base idea of conservatism, disregard for those is fascism.

Who said they shouldn't be given due process?

1 hour ago, herbie said:

As for the discussion, none of the parties mentioned is an illegal alien. That's what makes your reply a straw man argument.

The people I'm talking about are illegal aliens as well as the phony asylum claimants. They all need to be booted out. 

[herbie]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

he people I'm talking about are illegal aliens as well as the phony asylum claimants. They all need to be booted out. 

Then WTF did you start replying bout immigrants then? You're the one carrying on about 'screening' people and what their damn religion is.

[I am Groot]

13 hours ago, herbie said:

Then WTF did you start replying bout immigrants then? You're the one carrying on about 'screening' people and what their damn religion is.

The discussion has different elements to it. Kicking out people who shouldn't be here is one, keeping others out who shouldn't come in is another.

[Venandi]

On 8/24/2025 at 11:00 PM, CdnFox said:

They're happy to bring their wars with them...

Customs, traditions, laws, lifestyles and low level ethnic grudges too.

It's human nature, it's also why demographic concentrations need to be monitored and warehousing new immigrants / refugees vertically is always problematic. People here (mostly) don't understand the cultures because they've never been to those countries. The people who have will usually recommend caution, careful vetting and extra support (which costs money)... they are invariably shouted down by Herb like crazies screaming racist.

The Herbs of the world never consider such things as the plight of a single mother who has less status in her home country than her teenage sons do. They won't even acknowledge that as a group, they have no trust in government, the military, or the police (with good reason BTW) and lack the language skills to get by in areas other than the sort of (vertical) ethnic conclaves I refer to... which then serve as breading grounds for such things as gangs and the radicalization of young people.

 If you are going to import people who are fundamentally opposed to secular democracy and the societal norms you hold dear then you need to stop listing to Herb, be more thoughtful, more cautious, more culturally aware and more supportive than we have been.

The same people who talk about "tipping points" in global warming have no concept of what that means in terms of demographic concentrations... until they do, and then it's too late.

That's why I blame them for bad outcomes and the effect of draconian backlashes against innocent people... ya hear me Herb? 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 26, 2025 by Venandi

[WestCanMan]

When you consider the reaction that our country had to the scissor attack on a muslim girl's hijab, before it was revealed to be a hoax, and then compare it to the reaction to an actual stabbing/throat slashing incident by a muslim, you get a really clear picture of how f'd up this country is.