Breaking: Epstein Victims' Lawyer Reveals the Epstein Estate has the 50th Birthday Book in FL

[LinkSoul60]

Just now, User said:

I can read just fine. Folks like you act like mentioning or finding out that Trump's name is in the files is something new or means something nefarious now to push your conspiratorial silliness, then that Trump is now hiding something. 

 

No you can't.  You're just an Orange Maga follower....

[User]

6 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

No you can't.  You're just an Orange Maga follower....

I see you are down to grade school level responses now. 

[LinkSoul60]

Just now, User said:

I see you are down to grade school level responses now. 

Just stating facts....

[User]

11 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Just stating facts....

Me too....

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

I'm laughing at your ignorance and you think it's a 'hissy fit or panic attack'....   Really 😂

No, you're unhappy that we noticed. 

Again, you're dr seuss easy to read

Snif!!! "honest guys im laughing, these are tears of joy really! Snif snif!!  (leave me alone you meanies!!!)"   LOLOL

Kid you're dumb as a stump. It's obvious to everyone. And it's obvious to everyone that your failure to convince anyone that you're not dumb as a stump hurts your feelings are great deal.  

Take your time and learn to actually make an argument and you'll do much better. Being angry and crying isn't helping.

20 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Just stating facts....

You wouldn't know a fact of it it's you on the ass. You seem to think you're feelings are facts. Maybe that's why your 'facts' get so hurt when people point out you're wrong. 

[LinkSoul60]

7 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

No, you're unhappy that we noticed. 

Again, you're dr seuss easy to read

Snif!!! "honest guys im laughing, these are tears of joy really! Snif snif!!  (leave me alone you meanies!!!)"   LOLOL

Kid you're dumb as a stump. It's obvious to everyone. And it's obvious to everyone that your failure to convince anyone that you're not dumb as a stump hurts your feelings are great deal.  

Take your time and learn to actually make an argument and you'll do much better. Being angry and crying isn't helping.

You wouldn't know a fact of it it's you on the ass. You seem to think you're feelings are facts. Maybe that's why your 'facts' get so hurt when people point out you're wrong. 

lol...  Little man doesn't know how to respond so he's off into his typical nonsensical rants 😂

[CdnFox]

20 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

lol...  Little man doesn't know how to respond so he's off into his typical nonsensical rants 😂

You're referring to yourself obviously  

Managed to win any of those arguments with those six-year-olds you're always taking on yet?

 

 

[BeaverFever]

4 hours ago, User said:

already pointed out over and over again where you did not just clearly state facts. 

I already pointed out over and over that I did. You just don’t like what those facts might imply so you want the facts silenced.   
 

4 hours ago, User said:

You keep avoiding the question and point. Epstein was not a Republican, nor were they "his Republican" lawyers.

Doesn’t matter that he himself wasn’t republican he had an army of republicans falling all over themselves giving him a sweetheart deal and covering it up. And yes the Republican lawyers representing him are “his” lawyers by any common understanding of the English language 

 

4 hours ago, User said:

As to their affiliations... they all have very long legal careers and represent people across the political spectrum, hell, Dershowitz is hardly a Republican and has had a lifelong span of working for and with Democrats. 

As I have already described to you repeatedly. Ken Starr served in Reagan and Bush Sr administrations and led the witch hunt against Bill Clinton that unearthed the Lewinsky affair (but none of the high crimes Republicans had been alleging) which he published in unnecessarily graphic detail simply to humiliate the president and score political points. Jay Lefkowiz Epstein’s lead attorney served in the administrations of both Bush presidents and a key member of the right wing Federalist Society, a conservative legal network. I challenge you to find one example where either represented a prominent democrat on a high profile issue. Dershowitz may not be a card carrying republican but he is best known for representing republicans including Trump’s impeachment and being a regular controller to fox news where he spoke out against “the left” and the Mueller probe. 
 

4 hours ago, User said:

OK, now you are just going to play dumb. 

"Assuming these actions..."

Assumptions is not a fact. 

"the most likely explanation"

This is not a fact. It is your wild speculation. 

*face palm* You’re getting really desperate

As I already explained to you, I outlined the FACTS.

Then separately I provided what those facts might mean, making  clear what is fact and what is fact and what is subjective by using words like “assuming that”. Thats how arguments work and how the English language works  

You are falsely accusing me of trying to misrepresent my assumptions as facts when clearly I dod not and hilariously that what you MAGA trolls do here all day every day with your accusations about Hunter Biden , stolen election, and now this ridiculous Obama coup claim. You’re basically saying trump your side is allowed to substitute your opinion speculation as fact but others aren’t allowed to report the facts and then suggest what those facts *might* mean. 
 

4 hours ago, User said:

No, this is not a fact, it is speculation and you trying to excuse your own conspiracy peddling here because others did it too!

"Sure, it could a string of coincidences and innocent explanations etc. but Republicans routinely peddle in far fetched conspiracies against democrats for far less. "

As above  what is your argument here, nobody is allowed to ever suggest a republican might have something wrong because that is not “a fact?”

I am allowed to tell you the facts and then tell you what I think those facts might suggest and if you weren’t trying desperately to be such an intellectually dishonest troll you would admit that  

 

4 hours ago, User said:

WTF are you talking about? Where do you get Acosta, the Labor secretary at the time, to suddenly find anything? It was the SDNY that brought the charges. 

AGain, you offer no facts here, just your claim it was "convenient" with nothing factual to back that up. 

Correct he was labour secretary but still the Epstein controversy of the time was so big and so close to Trump it’s still very convenient  that they just happened to find new evidence against Epstein right when it was needed to address the controversy. “We never thought to check his other house before!”

 

4 hours ago, User said:

No, as I repeatedly point out, you are conflating some facts with your own conspiracy-peddling BS. 

No conflation. Arguments are based on facts and then conclusions based on those facts. I did not conflate the two. For example I did mot for say “Its a fact Trump killed Epstein” which would be a MAGA-style conflation.  When people use words like “I assume” by definition they are separating fact from conclusion so stop being so dishonest 

[robosmith]

[User]

The NYT is a joke. 

What was the "falling out?"

It was that Trump kicked him out of his home because he was hitting on a young girl/daughter of his friend. 

 

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, User said:

The NYT is a joke. 

Says the guy who ONLY listens to FOS LIES. LMAO

You only believe what you want to hear because you're a well know MAGA sycophant for Trump.

2 hours ago, User said:

What was the "falling out?"

It was that Trump kicked him out of his home because he was hitting on a young girl/daughter of his friend. 

Of course that only mattered because Mar-a-Lago was Trump's gold mine after he doubled the fee when he became POTUS.

[User]

32 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Says the guy who ONLY listens to FOS LIES. LMAO

I swear... you just have absolutely no ability to discuss anything honestly. You have some imaginary character you argue against and apply that to everyone. 

 

[BeaverFever]

On 7/28/2025 at 3:49 PM, User said:

I can read just fine. Folks like you act like mentioning or finding out that Trump's name is in the files is something new or means something nefarious now to push your conspiratorial silliness, then that Trump is now hiding something. 

 

Here’s another fact: Now Trump admits that Virginia Giuffre, the outspoken Epstein trafficking survivor who conveniently committed suicide just in April, worked at Mar-a-Lago.  

[CdnFox]

24 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Here’s another fact: Now Trump admits that Virginia Giuffre, the outspoken Epstein trafficking survivor who conveniently committed suicide just in April, worked at Mar-a-Lago.  

And?

Once again you try and turn something that is completely Not evidence against him into something that sounds Insidious but isn't

Trump was angry with Epstein because he hired these girls away from him. Yes they worked in mar-A-Lago. Epstein met them on a visit there and offered them a better job and hired them away. After that at least one of them, her, became a victim.

But she never suggested trump did anything inappropriate and trump wouldn't have known what happened to her after she left his employ.

Trump says Epstein ‘stole’ Virginia Giuffre from Mar-a-Lago staff role | Donald Trump | The Guardian

I hear Hitler chewed gum. You chew gum right? Why didn't you stop Hitler? You must be a Nazi

That's what your argument sounds like to Sane people

 

 

[Legato]

39 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Here’s another fact: Now Trump admits that Virginia Giuffre, the outspoken Epstein trafficking survivor who conveniently committed suicide just in April, worked at Mar-a-Lago.  

Okay, so what about uncle Tom Cobbley and all?

[BeaverFever]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And?

Once again you try and turn something that is completely Not evidence against him into something that sounds Insidious but isn't

Trump was angry with Epstein because he hired these girls away from him. Yes they worked in mar-A-Lago. Epstein met them on a visit there and offered them a better job and hired them away. After that at least one of them, her, became a victim.

But she never suggested trump did anything inappropriate and trump wouldn't have known what happened to her after she left his employ.

Trump says Epstein ‘stole’ Virginia Giuffre from Mar-a-Lago staff role | Donald Trump | The Guardian

I hear Hitler chewed gum. You chew gum right? Why didn't you stop Hitler? You must be a Nazi

That's what your argument sounds like to Sane people

 

 

But Bill Clinton bumped into the attorney general at an airport and had a chat with her which “proves”  that Hillary’s email “scandal”  was real and the investigation into her was sabotaged. Right?  
 

1) I like that Trump is finally admitting to having a connection with Giuffre 

2) About 3 weeks after her sudden and convenient suicide Trump learns what exactly is said about him and long close friend in the Epstein files. 
 

There’s a lot of coincidences and conveniences in the Trump -Epstein saga and sure sometimes life is just like that.  But given how Republicans don’t believe in coincidences and conveniences when they suggest wrongdoing by a Democrat I don’t see why anyone should be expected to show Republicans the courtesy  especially when this story has so many of them. 

Edited July 30, 2025 by BeaverFever

[BeaverFever]

On 7/28/2025 at 9:24 PM, User said:

The NYT is a joke. 

What was the "falling out?"

It was that Trump kicked him out of his home because he was hitting on a young girl/daughter of his friend. 

 

That is not a proven fact that is alleged by one author who had the story fed to him by someone at mar-a-lago. You’re picking and choose what hearsay and rumours you want to believe. 

And at any rate maybe if true he was just getting mad at a fellow pedo for cutting his grass without permission  See how that works?

[LinkSoul60]

On 7/28/2025 at 6:24 PM, User said:

The NYT is a joke. 

What was the "falling out?"

It was that Trump kicked him out of his home because he was hitting on a young girl/daughter of his friend. 

 

Not according to Trump...

Trump was the most forthcoming so far on Tuesday.

Epstein hired away Mar-a-Lago spa employees more than once, Trump said, even after being warned against it, prompting him to cut ties with Epstein and throw him out of the club.

“I said, ‘Listen, we don’t want you taking our people, whether it was spa or not spa,’” Trump told reporters. “And then not too long after that he did it again and I said, ‘outta here.’”

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

But Bill Clinton bumped into the attorney general at an airport and had a chat with her which “proves”  that Hillary’s email “scandal”  was real and the investigation into her was sabotaged. Right?  

Don't be childish. Bill Clinton didn't bump into the attorney general at the airport. He ran across the tarmac, got on to her plane and had a conversation with her in private at a time when she was looking at prosecuting his wife. 

How many times have you decided to run across the tarmac and jump on another plane to chat with somebody? Is that pretty common in your opinion? And there's a direct connection because his wife is going to be prosecuted by this person and he is aware of that.

In trump's case epstein hired somebody that worked for trump. And allegedly got fresh with a couple of his staff.

And you translate that into he must have known that epstien was having sex with underaged kids.  Because anyone that would HIRE someone would be. Right? That's your argument. 

Don't be so stupid next time. There's absolutely zero comparison there in the slightest

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1) I like that Trump is finally admitting to having a connection with Giuffre 

He's never denied it.

 

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2) About 3 weeks after her sudden and convenient suicide Trump learns what exactly is said about him and long close friend in the Epstein files. 

And what was said about him. Virtually nothing

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There’s a lot of coincidences and conveniences in the Trump -Epstein saga 

 

No there isn't. This isn't some sort of coincidence or convenience, they knew each other and spent time around each other. Epstein was a predator, of course he's going to pray on the people that he comes into contact with. Here's a news flash for you most pedophiles attack children of people they know well.

There's nothing even remotely slightly tiny bit suspicious about this. But you try and blow it up into some fake nonsense bullcrap proof that trump somehow knew that Epstein was terrible.

This is becoming a joke. How delusional are you that you are so desperate to smear trump that you would twist logic and facts that far?

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

But Bill Clinton bumped into the attorney general at an airport and had a chat with her which “proves”  that Hillary’s email “scandal”  was real and the investigation into her was sabotaged. Right?  
 

1) I like that Trump is finally admitting to having a connection with Giuffre 

2) About 3 weeks after her sudden and convenient suicide Trump learns what exactly is said about him and long close friend in the Epstein files. 
 

There’s a lot of coincidences and conveniences in the Trump -Epstein saga and sure sometimes life is just like that.  But given how Republicans don’t believe in coincidences and conveniences when they suggest wrongdoing by a Democrat I don’t see why anyone should be expected to show Republicans the courtesy  especially when this story has so many of them. 

Except Trump did the interview in which he called Epstein "a terrific guy" 2 years after after the employees were "stolen" and previously it was claimed that the reason they parted ways was because Epstein hit on the teenage daughter of a member at Mar-a-Lago. So Trump def knew about Epstein's unlawful affairs. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Except Trump did the interview in which he called Epstein "a terrific guy" 2 years after after the employees were "stolen" and previously it was claimed that the reason they parted ways was because Epstein hit on the teenage daughter of a member at Mar-a-Lago. So Trump def knew about Epstein's unlawful affairs. 

Except that's a lie. He didn't definitely know about anything. He kicked the guy out of his place but they've been friends for years and it's no surprise he'd call him a nice guy on TV. With trump everything is either the worst ever in history or the best ever in history there's no in between

Too bad you have to lie to try and make your point. I guess that means you don't have one

[User]

6 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Here’s another fact: Now Trump admits that Virginia Giuffre, the outspoken Epstein trafficking survivor who conveniently committed suicide just in April, worked at Mar-a-Lago.  

Now admits... was he denying it before?

What is your point?

Now, be honest enough to admit the context of his comment... come on, can you? 

[User]

3 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

That is not a proven fact that is alleged by one author who had the story fed to him by someone at mar-a-lago. You’re picking and choose what hearsay and rumours you want to believe. 

And at any rate maybe if true he was just getting mad at a fellow pedo for cutting his grass without permission  See how that works?

It is not hearsay when the person who did it says they did it...

It is supported by the fact that... all the pictures of them hanging out were before that time as well. 

YOU are the one who is picking and choosing here and you continue with your mindless conspiracy peddling. 

 

2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Not according to Trump...

So, your big argument is that Trump kicked him out for the same kind of crap, just not for that specific crap. 

Oh boy. The endpoint of mine remains the same. 

 

[gatomontes99]

11 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Here’s another fact: Now Trump admits that Virginia Giuffre, the outspoken Epstein trafficking survivor who conveniently committed suicide just in April, worked at Mar-a-Lago.  

Trump literally said that he initially stopped associating with Epstein because he kept stealing staff. 

[BeaverFever]

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Trump literally said that he initially stopped associating with Epstein because he kept stealing staff. 

But of course Trump is a prolific liar in the best of times you think he’s not going to lie to distance himself from Epstein?