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Posted
9 hours ago, robosmith said:

The statute of limitations had expired for the misdemeanor charges but because the crimes were done in the furtherance of a felony, the charges were elevated according to NYS law to felonies for which the statute of limitations had NOT expired.

It is common right wing legal IGNORANCE which  pretends that was ILLEGAL but they never cite the law which clearly says that is legal.

So sad.... The orange grifter is a convicted felon.  Get over it....

Just now, LinkSoul60 said:

So sad.... The orange grifter is a convicted felon.  Get over it....

Meant for User....   any crying towels available?

Posted
35 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

You really are a partisan hack...aren't you. Say it after me.

STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS

It what we call " a law".

On top of that, there remains to this day, no proof that those records are false. Just 3 options given the jury to make sure the complete lack of proof could be ignored. 

As this swamp scrubbing continues, I hope that judge gets destroyed. 

The records aren't false even, the claim was that they were recorded under the wrong expense account. Let's be clear, they still paid all of the appropriate taxes, this didn't affect anything at all and most importantly: The way that they did it is perfectly acceptable in every other part of America and Canada except New York.

This was a local accounting misdemeanor with no consequence. Anywhere else this is not even an issue. That's how minor this was.

But they claimed it was a felony because it was done in order to help commit another felony. But he was never tried for another felony, they didn't even say specifically which felony it was or that all of the jurors had to agree on which felony it was

This is why it has been called the Tinkerbell case, as long as you believe hard enough that another felony existed then you can convict him of a felony here even without evidence

That absolutely is not how justice or law is supposed to work

"That which doesn't kill me...

Had better start running."

Posted
39 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

You really are a partisan hack...aren't you. Say it after me.

STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS

It what we call " a law".

On top of that, there remains to this day, no proof that those records are false. Just 3 options given the jury to make sure the complete lack of proof could be ignored. 

As this swamp scrubbing continues, I hope that judge gets destroyed. 

You have a truly difficult time grasping reality don't you....   You also understand the FACT THAT HE WAS CONVICTED in a court of law, don't you?  Trying to say there is a statute of limitations or that there is no proof is mind boggling....but it's the Trump supporter mind so understood.

Posted
On 7/24/2025 at 1:08 AM, West said:

Obama had 8 years to prosecute. Biden had 4. Yet neither did. 

Just more left wing malicious rumors. We know theyve run this same disgusting playbook against religious leaders who don't kowtow to left wing politics and conservative politicians. Vile stuff

Once again you show that you know nothing.
 

Bush prosecutors gave Epstein and his Republican the sweetheart plea deal of a lifetime which included a non-prosecution agreement granting him immunity from any further charges or investigation. 

The Republicans involved on both sides of the case ensured that immunity agreement is placed under seal and kept from the public and victims. 

In Trump’s first term he appointed the Republican prosecutor Acosta, who gave Epstein the sweetheart deal , to his cabinet and retained the Republican lawyer that represented Epstein for his own impeachment hearings. 

In 2018 The Miami Herald published a series of investigative reports into Epstein and the role of Trump’s cabinet member Attorney Acosta collaborating with Epstein’s Republican lawyers in Epstein's plea deal.

Acosta resigns a few months later, citing the Epstein controversy as rue reason but first Epstein is suddenly and conveniently arrested for one additional historical count of sex trafficking that prosecutors conveniently just discovered and claimed wasn’t covered under the original immunity agreement they had given him. Epstein conveniently dies in custody under suspicious circumstances before any of the new allegations can be proven. 
 

Those are the facts buddy. 

Posted
51 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Meant for User....   any crying towels available?

Have you ever figured out how falsifying business records, which is a misdemeanor and past the statute of limitations, is a felony?

 

 

 

Posted
Just now, User said:

Have you ever figured out how falsifying business records, which is a misdemeanor and past the statute of limitations, is a felony?

 

Nothing to figure out.  He's a 34 time convicted felon.  End of story, box it.

Posted
1 minute ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Nothing to figure out.  He's a 34 time convicted felon.  End of story, box it.

LOL, so, back to when you absurdly tried to say I didn't understand... in the end, it is you who doesn't understand. 

 

 

 

Posted
4 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Once again you show that you know nothing.
 

Bush prosecutors gave Epstein and his Republican the sweetheart plea deal of a lifetime which included a non-prosecution agreement granting him immunity from any further charges or investigation. 

The Republicans involved on both sides of the case ensured that immunity agreement is placed under seal and kept from the public and victims. 

In Trump’s first term he appointed the Republican prosecutor Acosta, who gave Epstein the sweetheart deal , to his cabinet and retained the Republican lawyer that represented Epstein for his own impeachment hearings. 

In 2018 The Miami Herald published a series of investigative reports into Epstein and the role of Trump’s cabinet member Attorney Acosta collaborating with Epstein’s Republican lawyers in Epstein's plea deal.

Acosta resigns a few months later, citing the Epstein controversy as rue reason but first Epstein is suddenly and conveniently arrested for one additional historical count of sex trafficking that prosecutors conveniently just discovered and claimed wasn’t covered under the original immunity agreement they had given him. Epstein conveniently dies in custody under suspicious circumstances before any of the new allegations can be proven. 
 

Those are the facts buddy. 

From what I've read those really aren't the facts. You're twisting and distorting certain things and leaving other things out. I'm not going to bother with a blow by blow because honestly I think this whole thing is utterly irrelevant other than as an exercise in watching how political parties clash over stupidity.

But from what I read prosecutors had a real concern that they wouldn't be able to win with any charges and for completely valid reasons. Their main evidence was from a victim who had already been forced to admit she had lied repetitively and therefore was incredible in front of the judge. There were other problems in irregularities that meant it would be extremely difficult to get a conviction. It wasn't the sweetheart deal of a lifetime.

And the fact is Biden had those files for his entire time in office said there was anything in there about trump that was incriminating and he would have.

The fact of  the matter is that epstein was never actually accused of trafficking to any third party by his victims that had come forward. Everyone thinks that this is some sort of major child sex trafficking ring but there's absolutely no evidence that it was in any way should shape or form substantial or that people were getting trafficked, at least in the way we normally think of sex trafficking.  This was about him finding underage girls for himself.

They call it conspiracy to commit sex trafficking because that charge includes controlling or manipulating girls and that is accurate here, but he wasn't selling them to other people or the like. 

There was one accusation from one girl that there was an orgy she was forced to participate in but that was largely discredited. 

Here's the charges. 

Charges

Now what everyone believes is the issue is that he had a secret island where he had all of these sex girls trapped leave and he would sell them to rich people from all over the world for profit.  In reality that's not the case. In fact most of the illegal acts took place in new york or florida and the girls never lived with him or the like. 

 

Those things can be brutally hard to prove. And the fact that one of the accusers was caught lying and had to admit under oath she had wide extensively did not help things at all.

For media purposes they like to make it sound like there's this huge gigantic massive number of women and that they were all held against their will somewhere and that he would sell them to all these guys, and that's just not what the evidence says. I have no doubt he forced Or coerced some of these girls into having sex with some of the people he was trying to shmooze and it's possible he may have blackmailed one or two (evidence is VERY sketchy for that, more like a possibility than a probability) .   

So this is the guy who likes sleeping with young women, as young as 14 but for the most part in the 16 to 17 range. And he manipulated and exploited them because they were vulnerable into having sex. And even to this day that can be brutally hard to prove.

 

So all this nonsense about how trump must have known and how trump must have had all these girls given to him or how there was a major operation involving tons of people plus a secret island that girls were kept on is just media fakery

"That which doesn't kill me...

Had better start running."

Posted
4 minutes ago, User said:

LOL, so, back to when you absurdly tried to say I didn't understand... in the end, it is you who doesn't understand. 

 

Ask someone to read this for you....

NEW YORK (AP) — Donald Trump became the first former American president to be convicted of felony crimes Thursday as a New York jury found him guilty of all 34 charges in a scheme to illegally influence the 2016 election through a hush money payment to a porn actor who said the two had sex.

Trump sat stone-faced while the verdict was read as cheering from the street below could be heard in the hallway on the courthouse’s 15th floor where the decision was revealed after more than nine hours of deliberations.

Posted
1 minute ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Ask someone to read this for you....

Why? It doesn't answer the question I asked you. You said it was falsifying business records. 

 

 

Posted
1 minute ago, User said:

Why? It doesn't answer the question I asked you. You said it was falsifying business records. 

You're f*cking dense....  until you get brain, go play with someone else 

Trump sentenced for falsifying business records, but faces no punishment

President-elect Donald Trump received on an unconditional discharge for his criminal conviction in New York on Friday, meaning he will not face fines, prison, or any other penalties.

The former and future president appeared virtually in a Manhattan courtroom on Friday for his sentencing on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records to conceal a payment to an adult film star.

Posted
Just now, LinkSoul60 said:

Ask someone to read this for you....

 

NEW YORK (AP) — Donald Trump became the first former American president to be convicted of felony crimes Thursday as a New York jury found him guilty of all 34 charges in a scheme to illegally influence the 2016 election through a hush money payment to a porn actor who said the two had sex.

Trump sat stone-faced while the verdict was read as cheering from the street below could be heard in the hallway on the courthouse’s 15th floor where the decision was revealed after more than nine hours of deliberations.

But the article is incorrect. The felony is not a result of trying to illegally influence the election. He was never convicted of that. And it's HIGHLY questionable whether the 'hush money" would represent such an offense. 

What he was convicted of was falsifying business records. Which isn't actually felony and isn't even a crime outside of new york.  In fact it only became a felony because it was believed to be in support of another felony but that other felony was never actually identified. One of the proposed ones was that he was trying to influence the election illegally but that was never proven, he was never charged, no case was ever held about that.  Other possible felonies were also proposed and the judge said the jury DIDN"T EVEN HAVE to AGREE on WHICH one happened. 

He was never convicted of the other felony and they didn't even agree on what the other felony was. He was never even charged. And based on the 'belief" that one MIGHT have happened, this charge was upgraded to  a felony. 

This was a bookkeeping issue and a tiny one until they claimed he did it to support SOME other felony which was NEVER PROVEN. 

And that's why people are holding this in distain. It's been called the Tinkerbell offense because it only exists if you really really try hard to believe that it does.

Convicting somebody of an offense based on another offense they were never tried or convicted of or even accused is not in keeping with the fundamentals of justice. 

 

"That which doesn't kill me...

Had better start running."

Posted
5 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

You're f*cking dense....  until you get brain, go play with someone else 

Trump sentenced for falsifying business records, but faces no punishment

President-elect Donald Trump received on an unconditional discharge for his criminal conviction in New York on Friday, meaning he will not face fines, prison, or any other penalties.

The former and future president appeared virtually in a Manhattan courtroom on Friday for his sentencing on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records to conceal a payment to an adult film star.

But that is ALSO inaccurate.  He wasn't charged with just falsifying business records, he was charged with falsifying records in the 'first degree", which specifically means doing so in support of a felony. 

So. What was this other felony he committed? What felony was he charged with or convicted of that this was in support of?  It's no crime unless it's in support of a separate felony. 

In fact, never mind charging him or the like, which one did the jury decide they thought he committed?  

Fact is there isn't one.  The judge instructed the jury if they BELIVED he committed one of four possible felonies that was fine even if they didn't agree on which one it was. 

 

And that's where people have a problem with this

"That which doesn't kill me...

Had better start running."

Posted
31 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

You're f*cking dense....  until you get brain, go play with someone else 

No, I am just fine. You were the one crying about my pointing out this was an abuse of the justice system and then trying to claim I didn't understand... yet you can't explain how falsifying business records, which is a misdemeanor, and was beyond the statute of limitations, is a felony. 

 

 

 

Posted
37 minutes ago, User said:

No, I am just fine. You were the one crying about my pointing out this was an abuse of the justice system and then trying to claim I didn't understand... yet you can't explain how falsifying business records, which is a misdemeanor, and was beyond the statute of limitations, is a felony. 

 

Correction to what I said.... You're incredibly f*cking dense.  

Posted
Just now, User said:

Says the guy who doesn't understand this case. 

Stop embarrassing yourself DF....   The case is over, and he was found guilty.  End of story.

But seriously, take a day off from this forum and go get some fresh air

Posted
6 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Stop embarrassing yourself DF....   The case is over, and he was found guilty.  End of story.

You were the one crying about it and wanting to bring it up. 

Only after I demonstrated you don't understand it now do you want to run away. 

 

 

Posted
3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

You really are a partisan hack...aren't you. Say it after me.

STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS

It what we call " a law".

On top of that, there remains to this day, no proof that those records are false. Just 3 options given the jury to make sure the complete lack of proof could be ignored. 

As this swamp scrubbing continues, I hope that judge gets destroyed. 

The statute of limitations had NOT EXPIRED for THE FELONIES.

Say it with me: "CONVICTED OF 34 FELONIES." LMAO

Thanks for proving Dunning and Krueger right AGAIN about  you PRETENDING to be an expert in NYS LAWS.

Posted
6 minutes ago, robosmith said:

The statute of limitations had NOT EXPIRED for THE FELONIES.

Say it with me: "CONVICTED OF 34 FELONIES." LMAO

Thanks for proving Dunning and Krueger right AGAIN about  you PRETENDING to be an expert in NYS LAWS.

What felonies?

Be specific. What was the felony. 

 

 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, robosmith said:

The statute of limitations had NOT EXPIRED for THE FELONIES.

Say it with me: "CONVICTED OF 34 FELONIES." LMAO

Thanks for proving Dunning and Krueger right AGAIN about  you PRETENDING to be an expert in NYS LAWS.

Say it with me:

Trump is President of the United States.

Bye...

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Posted
2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Stop embarrassing yourself DF....   The case is over, and he was found guilty.  End of story.

But seriously, take a day off from this forum and go get some fresh air

Holy shit now you're begging HIM to leave after he makes you look like a twat ;)  LOLOLOL

You just never miss a chance to look like an imbecile do you :P You're the kind of guy who would have done the tide challenge without hesitation.

"That which doesn't kill me...

Had better start running."

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