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Federal judge issues new nationwide block against Trump’s order seeking to end birthright citizenship

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 A federal judge agreed Thursday to issue a new nationwide block against President Donald Trump’s executive order seeking to end birthright citizenship.

The ruling from US District Judge Joseph Laplante is significant because the Supreme Court last month curbed the power of lower court judges to issue nationwide injunctions, while keeping intact the ability of plaintiffs to seek a widespread block of the order through class action lawsuits, which is what happened Thursday in New Hampshire.

Ruling from the bench, Laplante granted a request from immigration rights attorneys to certify a nationwide class that “will be comprised only of those deprived of citizenship” and issued a preliminary injunction indefinitely blocking Trump’s Day One order from being enforced against born and unborn babies who would be impacted by the policy.

 

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1 minute ago, robosmith said:

So unborn children now have the right to citizenship but not the right to life? Fine, if this injunction is legal than all unborn children have the right to live and abortions are hereby banned. 

Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it? 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

So unborn children now have the right to citizenship but not the right to life? Fine, if this injunction is legal than all unborn children have the right to live and abortions are hereby banned. 

NO "unborn children" are US citizens. Duh

14 minutes ago, Deluge said:

That's not going to last. lol

This CLASS ACTION is what the SCOTUS PROSCRIBED. Duh.

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10 minutes ago, robosmith said:

This CLASS ACTION is what the SCOTUS PROSCRIBED. Duh.

This a$$hole is trying to do exactly what the SCOTUS said NOT to do. 

Read your article again, dumbf*ck, and then report back here for further instruction. 

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13 minutes ago, robosmith said:

NO "unborn children" are US citizens. Duh

This CLASS ACTION is what the SCOTUS PROSCRIBED. Duh.

No born children aren't citizens. For this class action to be valid it has to be for people that will not get citizenship. Those people are unborn. Therefore, this is class action suit only includes unborn children.

Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it? 

 

 

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A regional judge can only affect the case in particular. Not general national laws.

This class action will cost tons. It'll take years. 

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

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11 minutes ago, Deluge said:

This a$$hole is trying to do exactly what the SCOTUS said NOT to do. 

Read your article again, dumbf*ck, and then report back here for further instruction. 

Prove that the SCOTUS said NOT to do this:

certify a nationwide class that “will be comprised only of those deprived of citizenship”

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The Supreme Court recently addressed the issue of nationwide injunctions in the context of President Trump's executive order on birthright citizenship, effectively limiting their use. While the Court didn't rule on the legality of the order itself, they did restrict the ability of lower court judges to block federal policies nationwide. This means that future legal challenges to such orders may need to proceed through class action lawsuits or individual cases. 

 

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9 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

A regional judge can only affect the case in particular. Not general national laws.

This class action will cost tons. It'll take years. 

YOU'RE JUST GUESSING, because YOU DON'T PRACTICE LAW HERE. Duh

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19 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

No born children aren't citizens.

^Has been true since the 14th amendment, but Trump is illegally trying to change that through an executive order. Duh

19 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

For this class action to be valid it has to be for people that will not get citizenship.

And the newly certified class specifies children born under Trump's executive order that denies their citizenship. Duh

19 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Those people are unborn. Therefore, this is class action suit only includes unborn children.

They are born and then denied the citizenship granted by the  14th amendment. Duh

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12 minutes ago, robosmith said:

YOU'RE JUST GUESSING, because YOU DON'T PRACTICE LAW HERE. Duh

Lol...sure...

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

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It is insane to believe a man, even a President and billionaire, can unilaterally himself change the Constitution and say who is a citizen and who is not.  What madness!

Trump's birthright citizenship efforts blocked by judge's ruling

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CONCORD, New Hampshire − A federal judge again barred President Donald Trump's administration from enforcing his executive order limiting birthright citizenship nationwide after the Supreme Court restricted the ability of judges to block his policies using nationwide injunctions.

U.S. District Judge Joseph Laplante in Concord, New Hampshire, made the ruling July 10 after immigrant rights advocates implored him to grant class action status to a lawsuit they filed seeking to represent any babies whose citizenship status would be threatened by implementation of Trump's directive.

Laplante agreed the plaintiffs could proceed as a class, allowing him to issue a fresh judicial order blocking implementation of the Republican president's policy nationally."

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Did you know that Satan and his demons are behind much of what is going on in the world?  Yes, read the King James Bible and learn about it.  Billions of people are totally deceived and under Satan's control.  So expect what the Bible says to come true....wars, anarchy, and chaos.

I see it even in churches today.  People who are defending the corrupt, modern versions of the Bible and attacking the King James Bible because it is God's real written word.  The Devil hates it and is doing everything he can to shut it down, even in churches that claim to be defenders of the truth, i.e. in English, the King James Bible.

For those who don't know what I am talking about, the King James Bible is based on the Received Text or Majority Text, while modern versions are following several corrupt manuscripts.  It is a case of 95 or 99% of the manuscripts supporting the KJV and 1 % behind the modern corrupt versions.

Read these books online:

New Age Bible Versions : G. A. Riplinger, Gail : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

or a shorter book:

Beyond+Versions.pdf

 

 

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37 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Prove that the SCOTUS said NOT to do this:

certify a nationwide class that “will be comprised only of those deprived of citizenship”

 

I'm sorry, robomat, but there is no way in hell the founding fathers or the amenders would've green lit birthright citizenship to aliens - especially illegal aliens. 

That bullshit is going straight back up to the SC for clarification. ;) 

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27 minutes ago, herbie said:

So you think one man can change a constitutional amendment with a stroke of a pen?

And insist you're a believer in the Constitution?

How many states did that in 2020? The first was absolutely suspended for draconian mandates that churches close. 

Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it? 

 

 

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34 minutes ago, herbie said:

So you think one man can change a constitutional amendment with a stroke of a pen?

And insist you're a believer in the Constitution?

It's going take more than the President, and it sure as f*ck is going to take more than some piece of shit activist judge. 

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27 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

How many states did that in 2020? The first was absolutely suspended for draconian mandates that churches close. 

None. States can't alter the Constitution.
Beety Bowers hubby objects to birthright citizenship on religious grounds. Deport Jesus even if he's reborn here God isn't an American......

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41 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Did you know that Satan and his demons are behind much of what is going on in the world?  Yes, read the King James Bible and learn about it.  Billions of people are totally deceived and under Satan's control.  So expect what the Bible says to come true....wars, anarchy, and chaos.

I see it even in churches today.  People who are defending the corrupt, modern versions of the Bible and attacking the King James Bible because it is God's real written word.  The Devil hates it and is doing everything he can to shut it down, even in churches that claim to be defenders of the truth, i.e. the Bible.

blackbird is wrong about pretty much everything, but he is right in this case. 

The best response to all of this is to get right with your maker, first. 

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1 minute ago, herbie said:

None. States can't alter the Constitution.
Beety Bowers hubby objects to birthright citizenship on religious grounds. Deport Jesus even if he's reborn here God isn't an American......

The 14th needs to be clarified, and the clarification needs to read like this: Birthright citizenship is as follows: citizens beget citizens, non-citizens beget non-citizens. 

It's short, sweet, clear, and leaves ZERO room for America hating psychopaths to f*ck with it. 

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16 minutes ago, herbie said:

None. States can't alter the Constitution.
Beety Bowers hubby objects to birthright citizenship on religious grounds. Deport Jesus even if he's reborn here God isn't an American......

No, but they can violate it with impunity? If that is the case, they might as well be able to change it. While the Constitution wasn't amended, neither was it upheld. That, in practicality, is a change. 

What Trump is doing is enforcing the amendment as he interprets it. That is what he is supposed to do per his oath of office. If the congress disagrees, they can write laws to over ride him or impeach him. If the SCOTUS disagrees, they can issue an order. Until then, his interpretation of the Constitution is the law of the land. 

I, for one, welcome the SCOTUS ruling. I want to see how they view the term jurisdiction. That will put this issue to bed and set goals for both sides. The clearer we can mae our understanding of the amendment, the better. 

Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it? 

 

 

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