More cruel fascist thinking

[blackbird]

"Trump administration taunts detained migrants with ICE alligators at proposed Florida prison"

They are planning to build an Alligator Alcatraz for undocumented migrants in the heart of alligator land and boasting about it on social media.

"The Department of Homeland Security taunted detained migrants with an AI-generated meme depicting alligators guarding a proposed Florida prison, what critics called a “horrendous lack of humanity.”

Work has begun on the so-called “Alligator Alcatraz” immigration detention center that’s expected to cost $450 million a year in the heart of Florida’s Everglades.

“Coming soon!” DHS said in a post on X Saturday, with the meme of the alligators donning Immigration and Customs Enforcement baseball caps.

The department was called out on social media for the post.

“A horrendous lack of humanity,” wrote former U.S. diplomat and Georgetown lecturer Brett Bruen.

Christopher Burgess, a global security expert and former CIA officer, simply said: “Disgusting.”

“This is not a joke, it’s psychological warfare dressed as meme culture,” another person said. “This isn’t a warning. It’s a threat and DHS just made it official propaganda.”

Some Trump administration supporters were also not impressed. “This administration is doing good things, but the utter lack of seriousness of your comms team really sucks,” one person said. “No one takes you seriously with posts like this.”

Florida Attorney General James Uthmeier, an ally of President Donald Trump, boasted this week in a social media video that the center will require minimal additional security due to its remote, swampland location, which is home to dangerous wildlife, including alligators and pythons.

A graphic advertising the detention center featured in the Florida Attorney General’s social media video. (X/James Uthmeier)

“Alligator Alcatraz” would detain roughly 1,000 people in a facility on an abandoned airfield in the heart of the sprawling conservation area made up of mangrove forests and “rivers of grass.”

The idea recalls Trump’s own suggestion during his first term that a medieval moat be built alongside his still-unfinished southern border wall, inhabited by deadly creatures.

Friends of the Everglades and the Center for Biological Diversity filed a lawsuit Friday challenging the move to open the facility.

The government’s plan has not been through an environmental review as required under federal law, and the public has had no opportunity to comment, the groups claim in the suit, which named the Department of Homeland Security, ICE and the Florida Division of Emergency Management as the defendants.

“The site is more than 96 percent wetlands, surrounded by Big Cypress National Preserve, and is habitat for the endangered Florida panther and other iconic species,” Eve Samples, executive director of Friends of the Everglades, said.

“This scheme is not only cruel, it threatens the Everglades ecosystem that state and federal taxpayers have spent billions to protect,” she added."

Trump administration taunts detained migrants with ICE alligators at proposed Florida prison

What is next in the cruel schemes?  Stay tuned.

 

[herbie]

Shame and human respect are an alien concept to him and his gang, they live in a world were cruelty and treating others like shit is a virtue.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, blackbird said:

"Trump administration taunts detained migrants with ICE alligators at proposed Florida prison"

They are planning to build an Alligator Alcatraz for undocumented migrants in the heart of alligator land and boasting about it on social media.

"The Department of Homeland Security taunted detained migrants with an AI-generated meme depicting alligators guarding a proposed Florida prison, what critics called a “horrendous lack of humanity.”

Work has begun on the so-called “Alligator Alcatraz” immigration detention center that’s expected to cost $450 million a year in the heart of Florida’s Everglades.

“Coming soon!” DHS said in a post on X Saturday, with the meme of the alligators donning Immigration and Customs Enforcement baseball caps.

The department was called out on social media for the post.

“A horrendous lack of humanity,” wrote former U.S. diplomat and Georgetown lecturer Brett Bruen.

Christopher Burgess, a global security expert and former CIA officer, simply said: “Disgusting.”

“This is not a joke, it’s psychological warfare dressed as meme culture,” another person said. “This isn’t a warning. It’s a threat and DHS just made it official propaganda.”

Some Trump administration supporters were also not impressed. “This administration is doing good things, but the utter lack of seriousness of your comms team really sucks,” one person said. “No one takes you seriously with posts like this.”

Florida Attorney General James Uthmeier, an ally of President Donald Trump, boasted this week in a social media video that the center will require minimal additional security due to its remote, swampland location, which is home to dangerous wildlife, including alligators and pythons.

A graphic advertising the detention center featured in the Florida Attorney General’s social media video. (X/James Uthmeier)

“Alligator Alcatraz” would detain roughly 1,000 people in a facility on an abandoned airfield in the heart of the sprawling conservation area made up of mangrove forests and “rivers of grass.”

The idea recalls Trump’s own suggestion during his first term that a medieval moat be built alongside his still-unfinished southern border wall, inhabited by deadly creatures.

Friends of the Everglades and the Center for Biological Diversity filed a lawsuit Friday challenging the move to open the facility.

The government’s plan has not been through an environmental review as required under federal law, and the public has had no opportunity to comment, the groups claim in the suit, which named the Department of Homeland Security, ICE and the Florida Division of Emergency Management as the defendants.

“The site is more than 96 percent wetlands, surrounded by Big Cypress National Preserve, and is habitat for the endangered Florida panther and other iconic species,” Eve Samples, executive director of Friends of the Everglades, said.

“This scheme is not only cruel, it threatens the Everglades ecosystem that state and federal taxpayers have spent billions to protect,” she added."

Trump administration taunts detained migrants with ICE alligators at proposed Florida prison

What is next in the cruel schemes?  Stay tuned.

 

And?

Trump very clearly wants to scare the bejesus out of any immigrants thinking of coming to the US illegally. Scaring and threatening people is definitely one of his modus operandum  Not the only president who has pulled that kind of nonsense and he probably won't be the last.

It can be very effective. The more he looks like a heartless psychopath the less people want to screw around with them. Would you want to head to the US border right now as a potential illegal looking at what he's doing there? You'd probably stay home and that's kind of what he's banking on

2 hours ago, herbie said:

Shame and human respect are an alien concept to him and his gang, they live in a world were cruelty and treating others like shit is a virtue.

Now now, you have to learn to be tolerant. I mean I'm pretty sure you're an alien and we tolerate you  

[blackbird]

43 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Scaring and threatening people is definitely one of his modus operandum 

I simply don't believe in that fascist kind of government.  Be careful what you wish for.  If enough people approve of that behavior, it may turn on them some day.  What goes around comes around.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

I simply don't believe in that fascist kind of government.  

There's nothing fascist about it. In what way is it fascist. These have been the laws for a long time in America. Maintaining your sovereign right to decide who is and isn't allowed to come into your country from somewhere else is not fascist.

Somewhere in all of your rantings and ravings you probably have some sort of decent point, but you bury it in this nonsense it just doesn't up to scrutiny.

I thought you believed in god, what's with all the dishonesty? I'm pretty sure god mentioned somewhere that it wasn't a good idea to be a liar.

[Venandi]

Lots of hype over this but when you cut through all that it's simply the proposed construction site of a detention centre located 45 miles west of Miami on an unused airfield... there's about 39 acres. They plan to use temporary buildings and shelters similar to what FEMA uses for disaster relief.  

The Alcatraz nickname comes from its remoteness, the alligator reference is due to it being located in the everglades and the fact that it's in a swampy area... escape is difficult; there are few places to hide and overland travel is very difficult. 

It's currently being spun as a concentration camp built with stolen FEMA assets just prior to hurricane season. Herb can certainly make hay with that combo... even I could do it. 

The picture was in poor taste to be sure but that's about the extent of it.

Edited June 29, 2025 by Venandi

[Venandi]

7 hours ago, blackbird said:

Be careful what you wish for.  If enough people approve of that behavior, it may turn on them some day.  What goes around comes around. 

Ya, sort of like the concentration camp idea for anti vaxxers that was supported by 18% of Canadians during the Covid era eh? Lot's of nasty comments from nasty people on full display right here.... look no further.

This is tame by comparison.

Your point is well taken though.There certainly is an element of "careful what you wish for" and I think it's a lesson that will go unheeded.

 It's now a function of who wins elections. It's self inflicted and all you need to do now is wait for your guy to get in. Then ya can stick it to the MAGATs with impunity.

That's where we are now (IMO) so enjoy the ride. As Flyer would say "YOU LOST."

Personally, I'd favour building a wall around California and sending all the illegals to a bonafide sanctuary paradise that provides a guaranteed income and free housing ... but that's just me.

 

Edited June 29, 2025 by Venandi

[WestCanMan]

On 6/28/2025 at 8:54 PM, blackbird said:

I simply don't believe in that fascist kind of government.  Be careful what you wish for.  If enough people approve of that behavior, it may turn on them some day.  What goes around comes around.

Dude, we have a fascist gov't. 

Once the Libs get their desired level of control of social media, 1-party rule officially begins.