BREAKING: Leaked US intelligence says Iran's nuclear plans “likely only set back months”

[User]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Complete ^BULLSHIT. There is NO WAY I can PROVE my height on this Internet forum, cause even if I posted a pic of my DL, you'd never know if it was doctored. IN FACT it would def be redacted because ONLY A FOOL would post an unredacted DL for you lDIOTS to see.

But that is irrelevant to the CdnLIAR CLAIM of what I CLAIMED. He just doesn't know, and is TOO LAZY to find out.

Who cares how tall you are? We already know you are a cowardly liar who runs away... by how you behave here. 

[paxamericana]

Look, as unfortunate as the Palestinian people are for their own plight, they did this to themselves. Their children suffer because their parents did not stand up to Hamas. Arab Israeli peace is happening everywhere except Gaza and Iran. The Abraham accord shown that peace between Arab and Israel is possible. So it was never about the Palestinian, it was about hating Jews, peace is possible when you’re not threatening to kill the Jews. There is no moral high ground to claim when you support the Palestinian people without condemning HAMAS and their anti-Semitic tendency. 

[User]

46 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Look, as unfortunate as the Palestinian people are for their own plight, they did this to themselves. Their children suffer because their parents did not stand up to Hamas. Arab Israeli peace is happening everywhere except Gaza and Iran. The Abraham accord shown that peace between Arab and Israel is possible. So it was never about the Palestinian, it was about hating Jews, peace is possible when you’re not threatening to kill the Jews. There is no moral high ground to claim when you support the Palestinian people without condemning HAMAS and their anti-Semitic tendency. 

We can't continue to turn a blind eye to how much Iran has meddled in this either. They have been pumping $$$, arms, and training into Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, and Yemen to target Israel. They have been a major funders of this terrorism and instability. 

 

[paxamericana]

4 hours ago, User said:

We can't continue to turn a blind eye to how much Iran has meddled in this either. They have been pumping $$$, arms, and training into Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, and Yemen to target Israel. They have been a major funders of this terrorism and instability. 

 

Yes, Iran is the puppet master. Enabled by the palestinian apologist i would say.

What we should come to realize in the west is that there is no quick fix for this problem. It may take a couple of generation say 40 years to bring about true peace between the Israeli and Palestinian.

Israel has to bring the security situation in Gaza to a level where they can manage, even if it includes the administration of Gaza by Israeli.

Hamas and their Iranian proxy has to be rooted out, give a chance to the truely innocent palestinian that do not wish to participate in the genocidal 7th century death cult. That is the moral prerogative. 

Edited yesterday at 05:48 AM by paxamericana

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Look, as unfortunate as the Palestinian people are for their own plight, they did this to themselves. Their children suffer because their parents did not stand up to Hamas. Arab Israeli peace is happening everywhere except Gaza and Iran. The Abraham accord shown that peace between Arab and Israel is possible. So it was never about the Palestinian, it was about hating Jews, peace is possible when you’re not threatening to kill the Jews. There is no moral high ground to claim when you support the Palestinian people without condemning HAMAS and their anti-Semitic tendency. 

Are you really ^this IGNORANT? Hamas had all the guns and ordinary citizens had NO MEANS to "stand up to Hamas,"

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

Are you really ^this IGNORANT? Hamas had all the guns and ordinary citizens had NO MEANS to "stand up to Hamas,"

Polls suggested that people supported Hamas. The simple fact of the matter is right now if they wanted to get rid of Hamas they could do it, they would just have to talk to the Israelis and agree to let them in to seize the known as Hamas members.

And at the end of the day they're still getting blown up and killed so realistically they would have been better off putting up more of a fight to begin with

They were complacent, they've been supportive of all of the attacks which have happened over the years, they voted them in the first place, and now they're paying the price. I guess the lesson is maybe you're better off to try and take the guns yourself and get rid of the problem people rather than face a war where all of your friends and family are going to be dead and your homes are going to be rubble

[User]

8 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Are you really ^this IGNORANT? Hamas had all the guns and ordinary citizens had NO MEANS to "stand up to Hamas,"

The really stupid part of all this is that you support gun control here... 

Also, ordinary people can in fact stand up to Hamas if they really wanted to. Amazing how you don't have any insurgents or guerrilla warfare... if a population really wanted to fight back against their oppressive rulers, there are ways. 

I mean, it is almost like when they do polling Hamas has a strong plurality of support and when they are attacking Israel they have even more. 

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, User said:

The really stupid part of all this is that you support gun control here... 

That right there says a hell of a lot

[paxamericana]

31 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

That right there says a hell of a lot

Terrorism is indicative of authoritarianism at its deepest roots. This is why the terrorist do not value human life, terrorism is only a means to obtain power. The genocidal dictator Pol Pot once said : "To keep you alive is no benefit. To kill you is no loss." 

The Iranian theocratic state operate under authoritarian principle. Guess what they do to their own people? 

So for you bleeding hearts crowd type people who are sympathetic to the Palestinian violent "resistance", you're at best terrorist apologist and at worse a psychopath. You do not have any moral foundation to stand upon. It's my civic duty to call you out on your own bull shit. 

Edited yesterday at 04:04 AM by paxamericana

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

Terrorism is indicative of authoritarianism at its deepest roots. This is why the terrorist do not value human life, terrorism is only a means to obtain power. The genocidal dictator Pol Pot once said : "To keep you alive is no benefit. To kill you is no loss." 

The Iranian theocratic state operate under authoritarian principle. Guess what they do to their own people? 

So for you bleeding hearts crowd type people who are sympathetic to the Palestinian violent "resistance", you're at best terrorist apologist and at worse a psychopath. You do not have any moral foundation to stand upon. It's my civic duty to call you out on your own bull shit. 

Obviously. But more to the point of the post you referred to and the one it quoted, those who wish to strip citizens of their firearms which is how you PREVENT authoritarian regimes from taking over the people are ALSO in support of that kind of nonsense. 

You can't complain that the people didn't fight back against hamas and then go on to say 'civilians should never have guns" 

[robosmith]

13 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Terrorism is indicative of authoritarianism at its deepest roots. This is why the terrorist do not value human life, terrorism is only a means to obtain power. The genocidal dictator Pol Pot once said : "To keep you alive is no benefit. To kill you is no loss." 

The Iranian theocratic state operate under authoritarian principle. Guess what they do to their own people? 

So for you bleeding hearts crowd type people who are sympathetic to the Palestinian violent "resistance", you're at best terrorist apologist and at worse a psychopath. You do not have any moral foundation to stand upon. It's my civic duty to call you out on your own bull shit. 

Until ^you know the entire history of the Israeli state founding, it is you who is spreading BULLSHIT.

Start with the FACT that the UN gave the Jews land which the UN didn't own.

And the FACT that Israel was expanded with land taken in war which violates the Geneva Convention.

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According to international law, specifically the Fourth Geneva Convention, taking land through war is generally prohibited and considered illegal. The convention focuses on protecting civilians in wartime and prohibits the occupying power from transferring its own civilian population into the occupied territory. While occupation is a temporary, de facto situation during wartime, it does not grant the occupying power any right to annex or dispose of the territory. 

 

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

Prohibition of Annexation: 

 

• International law, particularly the Fourth Geneva Convention, prohibits the annexation of occupied territory.
• Annexation is the act of incorporating acquired territory into the sovereign territory of the occupying power.
• This is distinct from occupation, which is a temporary situation during armed conflict.

 

 

 

[User]

39 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Start with the FACT that the UN gave the Jews land which the UN didn't own.

So... your position is that we need to rebuild the Ottoman Empire?

39 minutes ago, robosmith said:

And the FACT that Israel was expanded with land taken in war which violates the Geneva Convention.

And?

As I pointed out in another discussion, so what?

Israel is not going to give back the Golan Heights, which is a strategic high point in the region, when the surrounding world wants to destroy them. 

If you are so concerned about this, then put the pressure on the surrounding countries to want peace more than seeing the obliteration of Israel. 

 

[paxamericana]

20 hours ago, robosmith said:

Start with the FACT that the UN gave the Jews land which the UN didn't own.

What is the premise for land ownership? History is filled with conquering factions taking over areas and then being displaced themselves. The Jews conquered Israel from the local tribes after their journey from Egypt, they were then conquered in turn after by the Assyrian, then the Babylonian, then Persian, then Greek, then Romans, then mamaluks then the crusader then the mamaluks again then the ottoman then the British. So tell me what’s your definition of land ownership. These event predated any "UN". The jews purchased their current land from the Brits. The only war has been done so by the Arab V Israel, against the exact UN definition you're exhorting.The Jews are there to stay. Unless conquered by the say the Palestinian. 

Additionally, there are legal basis for adverse possession in the English law aka Squater's rights. Where they substantially made improvement upon the land. Which was a waste land before the Jews arrived. 

Edited 3 hours ago by paxamericana

[Legato]

On 6/28/2025 at 1:30 PM, robosmith said:

And then you'd claim that the door was not standard height.

 

Standard height door...