When was the last time the Libs did something right, aside from when they were stealing Poilievre's ideas right before the election?

CdnFox · June 23

7 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Hmmmmmm.

The US is pretty serious about their stance on European influence in the Americas, judging by the tone of the Monroe Doctrine.

Will they not see this Canada-Europe defence partnership, without the USA being involved, as a direct thumb in the eye?

This will be an exciting "Canada Day" lol. If we're even allowed to have it now 😂

But like I said this isn't actually a deal so I would imagine that the devil will be in the details.

Carney is making a big show of moving away from America as our primary defense allyplace to procure hardware, but at this point no deals have been signed and no equipment ordered. I think it's largely smoking mirrors to be honest. But we'll see, time will tell

CdnFox · June 23

52 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Arguing and name calling and insulting with whom you call a "14 year old" hearkens on you being a pedophile.

I would change what you attempt to to call me insult me with LOL. For the longest time I could’ve sworn I was dealing with an adult but, Now I know I was wrong.....you like to insult and argue with children

Well I don't really want to argue with you about this considering how much knowledge you have in the field of pedophilia, but no

Which I realize is a huge disappointment for you considering how often you spend time fantasizing about me and talking at length about me in a sexualized fashion. I'm afraid I'm just not interested get out, you'll have to make do with your fantasies

WestCanMan · June 23

19 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Feeling superior that you are arguing with a 14 year old child??? (as you accuse me of being)

That was a compliment. We know you're not that old.

WestCanMan · June 23

Still no mention on CNN and Fox about the "Canada-Europe Defence Partnership".

IMO the timing of the release of this info was terrible and unentertaining.

They shoulda done this at 9pm last night so that Trump would lie there fuming in his bed for a few hours, and then get up at 3 AM to do another cofvefe rant.

ExFlyer · June 23

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Well I don't really want to argue with you about this o

You cannot argue about this..you have proven yourself and what you are. Hey...you are the one that keeps claiming I am a "14 year old" and insults and calls names. Seems you like "14 year olds" LOL

If anyone likes kids, it seems to be you

The true pervert in you is finally showing itself.

Yup, as I said earlier..you are a disgusting pig and it all comes out now.!!!

ExFlyer · June 23

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

That was a compliment. We know you're not that old.

Oh, another pedophile??

Are all you conservatives pedophiles and like kiddies?? Or just westconman and confux???

Finally coming out are you guys???

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WestCanMan · June 23

9 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Oh, another pedophile??

Is that your way of saying "Are you my daddy?"

Beat it, kid. No one's hitting on you here. Go to left4rds.org or something.

ExFlyer · June 23

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Is that your way of saying "Are you my daddy?"

Pervert. Are you actually playing that game? "Are you my daddy"? WTF.?... Pervert LOL

Confux and westconman...admitted perverts. LOL

Edited June 23 by ExFlyer

CdnFox · June 23

2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

You cannot argue about this..you have proven yourself and what you are. Hey...you are the one that keeps claiming I am a "14 year old" and insults and calls names. Seems you like "14 year olds" LOL

If anyone likes kids, it seems to be you

The true pervert in you is finally showing itself.

Yup, as I said earlier..you are a disgusting pig and it all comes out now.!!!

It's true, i can't argue about not arguing with someone i wasn't arguing with because there's no argument

Hilariously, you're right but you don't know why LOLOL

Kid, your job here is to be laughed at and there's no argument at all there

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Is that your way of saying "Are you my daddy?"

BWAAAAHAHAHAAHAAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

15 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Pervert. Are you actually playing that game? "Are you my daddy"? WTF.?... Pervert LOL

You're the only one playing it, so wouldn't that make you the pervert? Or are you talking to your body parts as if they're real people again?

ExFlyer · June 23

9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

It's true, i can't argue about not arguing ...

.

K.

BWAAAAHAHAHAAHAAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hey pervert..

Having a meltdown again? Your diatribe is, well, whacked LOL

Me in your head rent free is really messing up you ability to post intelligently LOL

This Is What A Pervert Looks Like - Men ...

CdnFox · June 23

7 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Hey pervert..

Having a meltdown again? Your diatribe is, well, whacked LOL

Me in your head rent free is really messing up you ability to post intelligently LOL

So basically at this point you think you can try and make yourself look better by calling me all of the things that everybody else calls you LOLOL Haven't seen that particular stroke of logic since I graduated from grade three

You do seem very desperate to find someone who will date you though. I take it you've been striking out in the real world

WestCanMan · June 24

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You're the only one playing it, so wouldn't that make you the pervert? Or are you talking to your body parts as if they're real people again?

It appears that when he thinks about Carney he thinks about adults having sex with children.

Legato · June 24

On 6/22/2025 at 5:41 PM, LinkSoul60 said:

Might surprise you but all business and investment relationships are built through interpersonal meetings that develop over time, not by sitting behind a computer sending emails or a phone texting.

Get some fresh air....

Did Amazon need three trucks to deliver that wide brush you're using.

BeaverFever · June 24

On 6/18/2025 at 7:55 PM, CdnFox said:

not really, just kept up with inflation they caused (almost).

Wrong. The benefit formula was significantly increased and was phased in between 2019 and 2025 for all Canadians. A young person earning their entire CPP under the new formula will receive 50% more than the original formula. https://www.canada.ca/en/services/benefits/publicpensions/cpp/cpp-enhancement.html

On 6/18/2025 at 7:55 PM, CdnFox said:

Failed

Lol what are you talking about ? 4 million Canadians enrolled, half of whom have received care, 26,000 participating dental care providers (75% of all providers in the country) and they are still rolling it out and haven’t even fully opened up enrolment to all planned eligible groups yet.

On 6/18/2025 at 7:55 PM, CdnFox said:

Already in most provinces, no new benefit

Another falsehood. Provincial coverage was patchy or non-existent from province to province . Federal program reimburses provinces who provide universal first dollar coverage for these items.

On 6/18/2025 at 7:55 PM, CdnFox said:

Yes, we're killing ourselves in record numbers. Horay,

Don’t knock it til you try it 😉

On 6/18/2025 at 7:55 PM, CdnFox said:

They are almost all back. Read up on it. He did temp fixes, announced victory, the problems reoccured, The "long term' avisories were lifted, but they have tonnes of reoccuring short term ones,

148 long term advisories have been lifted since 2015, 37 remain.

There are 45 short-term advisories currently in effect which may or may not be from the same place as a previous long term. 175 short-term water advisories have been prevented from becoming long-term ( ie were resolved in less than 1 year)

https://www.sac-isc.gc.ca/eng/1614386700861/1614386717841

On 6/18/2025 at 7:55 PM, CdnFox said:

By giving away what little military gear we had and starving our military

The stuff that came from CAF inventory was all old gear. The military has been starving for decades including under conservatives.

On 6/18/2025 at 7:55 PM, CdnFox said:

Nope. They changed the definition and that was basically it.

1) The definition wasn’t changed, the measure changed in 2018

2) Statistics Canada not “the Liberals” changed the measure

3)The pre-2018 measures (called LICO and LIM) were not by themselves official poverty measures and they were inaccurate as didn’t take the cost of necessities into consideration in each region even though costs can vary significantly across the country. LIM only counts people who earn less than 50% of national median income. LICO only counts people who spend 20% more of their income on food, shelter and clothing than the national average (e.g. if the average Canadian spends 43% of their income on necessities you’re only poor if you spend 63% or more). As such the pre-2018 measure only captured the poorest of the poor.

The new measure called MBM was actually developed by statistics Canada in 2000-2002 and updated in 2018 when it became the official measure. It actually prices a comprehensive basket of actual necessities including utilities, transportation, etc in over 50 Canadian regions. If your net after tax income is less than the basket in your town then you’re in poverty it’s that simple.

CdnFox · June 24

46 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Wrong. The benefit formula was significantly increased and was phased in between 2019 and 2025 for all Canadians.

Sorry kiddo, do the math. For the expenses an older person has (mostly food and the like) inflation which the libs caused outpaced it. Sucks to be you

47 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Lol what are you talking about ? 4 million Canadians enrolled, half of whom have received care, 26,000 participating dental care providers

Most of whom had coverage already, and there have been all kinds of problems.

Each province had plans in place, and it even says right on the gov't website that if they qualify provincially no problem they can still sign up federally, which means the feds have been stacking the numbers. Most of those people already had coverage.

Not to mention the other issues

Why dentists are not signing up for the Canadian Dental Care Plan - CCPA

Why Are Dentists Frustrated About the Canadian Federal Dental Plan? - Savanna Dental

More dental care, more problems with the Canada Dental Care Plan: expert | Benefits and Pensions Monitor

And for this "sub optimal" plan as one person puts it we spent 4.4 billion each and every year, which when you do the math is enough to buy PRIVATE COVERAGE FOR FULL MEDICAL DENTAL FOR EVERY ADULT IN CANADA who doesn't already have it through work.

It would have covered their Pharmacy tab, the dental, eyewear etc

But you stuck your head so far up your ass you can't even see what should have been obvious from day one. This is a horrible deal that is horribly expensive and most of the people it helps we're already being helped. Explain to me how this is anything but a failure

54 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

The stuff that came from CAF inventory was all old gear.

If it's so useless why bother giving it at all. And all we have is old gear, we don't have any new gear. And considering he was giving armored fighting vehicles that were coming off of the assembly line it kind of is hard to believe that it's all old gear

55 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

148 long term advisories have been lifted since 2015, 37 remain.

There are 45 short-term advisories currently in effect which may or may not be from the same place as a previous long term.

Sure, and next week there will be more short-term ones and that will cover the same issues that the 148 used to. The first nations have spoken out about this at length and they're not happy. You remember when two of them went to a Trudeau fundraiser to raise this issue and he told them thank you for your donation and kick them out?

56 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

1) The definition wasn’t changed, the measure changed in 2018

So you're saying the definition didn't change, it's just that the definition changed. 🙄🙄🙄

You have your head so far up Trudeau's ass that you can't see that the man was a freaking disaster from day one and all of these supposed programs have been total failures. And now we're stuck with a debt that is so high that the children being born today will still have a lower quality of life than they should have as a result of it in their adulthood. Banks are estimating that we are going to underperform badly for 40 years or more as a result of our circumstances. And that's if we start doing things right now. Which we aren't because carney is screwing up already and won't deliver on what he's promised

And you don't give a shit if an entire generation of Canadians has to suffer as long as you get to support your precious little liberals and lie about what they've achieved

LinkSoul60 · June 24

13 hours ago, Legato said:

Did Amazon need three trucks to deliver that wide brush you're using.

Prime member. No brushes available.....sold out from your last order.

SpankyMcFarland · June 25

On 6/17/2025 at 3:52 PM, WestCanMan said:

The talk goes like this: "How do we get the CBC to say that our candidate is the best guy to deal with Trump next time? How do we get the CBC to show some fake polls that favour us instead of the Libs?"

Until we appoint a CPC leader that the CBC likes, the CPC will lose, but conservatives don't want to appoint a Trudeau to lead this country downhill, like we just watched for the past 10 years.

We have 1-party rule here, we just don't want to admit it.

I thought you guys considered the CBC irrelevant? Now it’s picking our leaders.

After any defeat, esp. one as dramatic as this, there should be a prompt and frank review of what went wrong. Of course, all campaigns are flawed but it’s easier than usual to find the mistakes in this one. Poilievre put himself front and centre despite being unpopular with many Canadians, and even Tory politicians, and failed to adapt style and content when circumstances changed out of all recognition. When negative messaging was enough so was he but once the wind changed he looked completely at sea.

CdnFox · June 25

38 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

I thought you guys considered the CBC irrelevant? Now it’s picking our leaders.

Nobody is ever claimed that the CBC is irrelevant that I recall.

The claim is that they are biased and Fanboys for the liberals. And that conservative shouldn't have to pay their tax money to support an organization whose sole purpose is to try and keep conservative governments out of power

But I think everybody has always agreed that the CBC does have an impact. That's the problem. They have an impact for the liberals only

WestCanMan · June 25

10 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

I thought you guys considered the CBC irrelevant? Now it’s picking our leaders.

It's irrelevant for people who care about the actual news, but they have millions of braindead cultists.

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After any defeat, esp. one as dramatic as this, there should be a prompt and frank review of what went wrong. Of course, all campaigns are flawed but it’s easier than usual to find the mistakes in this one. Poilievre put himself front and centre despite being unpopular with many Canadians, and even Tory politicians, and failed to adapt style and content when circumstances changed out of all recognition. When negative messaging was enough so was he but once the wind changed he looked completely at sea.

Not correct.

The loss was only dramatic if you consider alleged polling data to be legitimate, which it clearly is not.

How is it possible that every single election in Canada and the US has followed the exact same trajectory for over a decade now?

The libs/Dems are always ahead - ALWAYS AHEAD - by an 8-10% lead in the last two months, and then the CPC/GOP miraculously close the gap to 1.2-2% in the last 2 days. How is that possible? Sure, it could happen once, but 7 times in a row? The CPC and GOP literally gained 4% a day for the last 2 days of every election cycle, 7 elections in a row. How is that possible? "The libs are up by ten% in the popular vote" ended up with the CPC winning the popular vote by 2%, at least twice.
The "Libs/Dems are up by 10%" is always the subject and the predicate is always something like "Carney is the best guy to deal with Trump" of the prevailing election message, every time. Both false narratives are propped up by each other.

The whole notion that Poilievre is unpopular is debunked by your own fake polling. How was he up by 20% in anuary if he's unpopular? How can his policies be bad if the LPOC gains popularity by enacting them?

Just sit back and think about this scenario from a bird's eye POV for a minute. EVERY election had the Dems/Libs up by 8-10% for the last two months, and every MSM talking point was "everyone loves this, so this person is winning."

ExFlyer · Friday at 02:08 PM

WestCanMan · Friday at 04:13 PM

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

That's a perfect example of the sh1t that comes from the mouths of left4rd cultists, daily.

For example, Nortel was swirling into the toilet, looking at bankruptcy, and begging for a buyer. That wasn't an example of a Canadian PM selling a Canadian company that he didn't even own, it's a sinking business that found a buyer.

An example of a Canadian PM screwing over a country is:

the last LPOC PM we had went on TV to announce to the world that we were phasing out our oil sands, causing investors to promptly back out of 4 major energy investments with over $130 billion. Those energy investments could have been helping us fend off trump's hostile takeover bid on our country, but now they're still not even on the radar.

And just a few minutes ago I replied thusly to a post from missing link, after she talked about where to invest money:

A wiser option would be to invest in companies that Carney and his friends and associates are invested in, regardless of the quality and price of what they're selling, or if we even need it.

An example of that is the WE "charity", who were friends and associates of the Trudeau family, and who made Hitler Youth style propaganda for Justin. Canada didn't need to give $900M to a company like that, and in the end we didn't, and you never noticed a glaring void. But Trudeau found an excuse to shovel piles and piles of cash to his cronies at WE, just like Chretien got the BoC to finance the purchase of one of his properties, just like Carney will do now that he's PM. It's how Libs roll.

And when it comes time to either defend $135 billion worth of investments in Alberta, or to curb-stomp our democracy to protect a criminal entity like SNC Lavalin - that notorious briber of Liberal bureaucrats - Carney will do the latter and the CBC will barely mention it. And you'll be happy, because you're a cultist dipshit.

CdnFox · Friday at 05:24 PM

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

That's a perfect example of the sh1t that comes from the mouths of left4rd cultists, daily.

For example, Nortel was swirling into the toilet, looking at bankruptcy, and begging for a buyer. That wasn't an example of a Canadian PM selling a Canadian company that he didn't even own, it's a sinking business that found a buyer.

An example of a Canadian PM screwing over a country is:

the last LPOC PM we had went on TV to announce to the world that we were phasing out our oil sands, causing investors to promptly back out of 4 major energy investments with over $130 billion. Those energy investments could have been helping us fend off trump's hostile takeover bid on our country, but now they're still not even on the radar.

And just a few minutes ago I replied thusly to a post from missing link, after she talked about where to invest money:

A wiser option would be to invest in companies that Carney and his friends and associates are invested in, regardless of the quality and price of what they're selling, or if we even need it.

An example of that is the WE "charity", who were friends and associates of the Trudeau family, and who made Hitler Youth style propaganda for Justin. Canada didn't need to give $900M to a company like that, and in the end we didn't, and you never noticed a glaring void. But Trudeau found an excuse to shovel piles and piles of cash to his cronies at WE, just like Chretien got the BoC to finance the purchase of one of his properties, just like Carney will do now that he's PM. It's how Libs roll.

And when it comes time to either defend $135 billion worth of investments in Alberta, or to curb-stomp our democracy to protect a criminal entity like SNC Lavalin - that notorious briber of Liberal bureaucrats - Carney will do the latter and the CBC will barely mention it. And you'll be happy, because you're a cultist dipshit.

It's worth noting that Kearney has already doubled the amount of money by $25 billion that we're going to be spending on independent consultants to do work that the government employees are supposed to be capable of already.

we know how this works. Trudeau and now carney funnel vast amounts of taxpayer dollars into fake we're useless third party companies that do no real work and pocket billions to do it and then when they leave politics they're invited to sit on the board of directors where they will do nothing at all and receive salaries of several hundred thousand a year. You get 10 or 11 of those going and Retire on a nice tidy little income into the millions

Edited Friday at 05:26 PM by CdnFox

WestCanMan · Friday at 05:30 PM

Just now, CdnFox said:

It's worth noting that Kearney has already doubled the amount of money by $25 billion that we're going to be spending on independent consultants to do work that the government employees are supposed to be capable of already.

I don't know how this works. Trudeau and now carney funnel vast amounts of taxpayer dollars into fake we're useless third party companies that do no real work and pocket billions to do it and then when they leave politics they're invited to sit on the board of directors where they will do nothing at all and receive salaries of several hundred thousand a year. You get 10 or 11 of those going and Retire on a nice tidy little income into the millions

It's USAID, Canada-style.

I'd be shocked to find out that these independent consultants/consulting firms don't find ways to funnel money to execs at CTV and Global, heads of unions...

Surely those types of people need to be involved in decisions about "preventing the flow of "disinformation 😉" and construction, the auto sector, etc.

CdnFox · Friday at 05:43 PM

10 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

It's USAID, Canada-style.

I'd be shocked to find out that these independent consultants/consulting firms don't find ways to funnel money to execs at CTV and Global, heads of unions...

Surely those types of people need to be involved in decisions about "preventing the flow of "disinformation 😉" and construction, the auto sector, etc.

Well the thing is they often pay the consultants or consultants companies that the news organizations hire to give them information or comment on information.

And they absolutely definitely funnel tons of money into various activist groups who can put pressure on news stations and reporters.

You'll recall during the truck are protest for example when cBC announced that the truckers were being funded by pro-trump forces in the united states primarily. Turned out that that was 100% completely false, but they arrived at that based on information prepared by an activist type of person who deliberately twisted the information available to create that image.

CBC of course didn't feel they needed to apologize for the mistake later because they said they were acting in good faith on information from an expert. But of course they should have known that the expert did not have enough information to be able to make that statement, but now they've got plausible deniability.

None of this happens by accident