What is Fascism?

[Deluge]

2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Conservapedia is propaganda nonsense. It was literally created to publish “ alternative facts” by conservatives who can’t accept reality 

 

Fascism is right wing. It is violently and specifically anti-Marxist, anti-socialist and anti-left in all forms. Neither the Nazis nor Mussolini were socialists, they killed and jailed socialists by the thousands while publicly denouncing everything socialism stands for. 
 

 

Your first mistake was posting that video. Jason Stanley is a Trump hating psychopath and should probably be committed. Don't bother with him. 

Conservapedia's definition is acceptable and it makes sense. 

Keep reading, but set aside your propaganda fueled prejudices, first.  

 

 

Edited Saturday at 09:27 PM by Deluge

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Lol conservativapdia is a joke  

So much so that you couldn't even refute a single point and felt the need to go find an even BIGGER joke to cite?

 

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Secondly the video is not some “no name useless twat” obviously you didn’t watch the video. He is one of America’s foremost experts on the subject, a professor at Yale university (now at U of Toronto) who has written and has written 5 prominent books on the subject. So to be clear, the “no name twat on the internet” is whoever wrote that conservapedia article.

Bullshit.' The guy's a no name hack trying to make a name for himself by 'wokefying' a topic instead of actually addressing it.  Even you can see that i'm sure. 

That was pathetic, 
 

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This is that opposite-of-reality thing you do 

This is the I can't argue anything you just said so i'll invent something that never happened and argue with that thing you like to do .

Again kid, pathetic. You couldn't refute a SINGLE point?

 

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That is a ridiculous thing to say I literally laughed out loud when I read that and Im sure anyone else would if you said that to them. Do I really need to explain about Hitler and Mussolini? The official formal greeting of the German military and much of society at large was doe people to literally to say “Heil Hitler” to each other. 

And? how does that refute what i said? Kid if you laughed out loud you made yourself look like a complete tard, are you saying hitler WASN"T a dictator like I claimed? 
 

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Sorry that is gibberish you’ve made up and is simply not true.  

Not only is it 100% true but it can't even be argued. It's like arguing whether or not the sun came up in the east this morning. All of the people I mentioned were socialist dictators in one model or another.

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Nazis viewed Marx, Marxism, socialism, communism, etc as a cancer eating away at society that must be cut out,

Sure.  The marxists also thought that hitler and the socialist party were a cancer, etc etc.  They all thought THEIR brand of socialism was correct.  I assume you know that communism is socailism. If you don't you're too uneducated for this conversation. 

Hilter gave long speeches about this. His party was socialist, based on a highly controlled open market model.  Got the word socialist right in the name and he explains why he's different than the 'socialist' party of the time. The socialists were a planned economy model and the communists were a marxist model. And they all hated each other but were all socialist. 

 

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1) Hitler Putin and Mussolini are not socialists

They absolutely are. pretty much by definition. I"m thinking that the problem here is you don't know what 'socialist' means. 

 

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2)Non-socialist models also susceptible: every non-socialist dictatorship in the world for example: most of Africa and the middle east, southeast asia, much of Latin America past and present. 

So you couldn't name even one   LOLOLOL

In any case, yes it can happen but it's far far far far less likely. 

 

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3)The Scandinavian countries are successful “socialist” democracies but I am half inclined to argue that they’re not really “socialist” countries as most people understand the term, they’re simply capitalist countries with higher levels of taxation, public services and regulation than most. 

I don't think you know what socialism is at all. 
 

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I don’t know what this means. Hitler and Mussolini literally wrote the book on fascism although they had many differences between each other ams they wee literally at the opposite end of the political spectrum from communism, socialism etc. 

Facism and nazism are NOT the same thing.  Just as naziism and the socialist party were not the same thing, even though they both called themselves socialist. 

[eyeball]

What is Fascism?

It's what Einstein witnessed right-wing conservative Israelis inflicting on Palestinians.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

What is Fascism?

It's what Einstein witnessed right-wing conservative Israelis inflicting on Palestinians.

I take it Einstein is one of the voices in your head that you've named?

[Deluge]

13 hours ago, eyeball said:

What is Fascism?

It's what Einstein witnessed right-wing conservative Israelis inflicting on Palestinians.

Wrong. It's a socialist regime striking an unholy agreement with capitalist oligarchs to drive out competition and subjugate the people. 

And you've got it backwards. Palestine is the evil. It wants Israel wiped off the face of the earth. Israel just wants its own space. 

 

[eyeball]

34 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Israel just wants its own space. 

No, Israel wants someone else's space.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, Israel wants someone else's space.

No, isreal wants THEIR space and someone else doesn't want them to have it.  And a few of those someone's are currently getting their own spaces turned into rubble. 

[Deluge]

42 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, Israel wants someone else's space.

No, Israel's given up enough space. It's time to take it back. 

Edited yesterday at 03:24 PM by Deluge

[User]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

No, Israel wants someone else's space.

When and what space are you talking about. 

Be specific. 

You won't because you want to be purposefully vague to hate Israel and support their destruction. 

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, User said:

When and what space are you talking about. 

100 years ago...Palestine.

[User]

3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

100 years ago...Palestine.

No such place existed 100 years ago.

[CdnFox]

28 minutes ago, User said:

No such place existed 100 years ago.

Sure it did. You could get there from Mr Rodgers place.  You just go straight through the land of make-believe, turn right at good king friday's castle, left at lady Fairchilde's place, and straight on till morning. 

You would know all this if you used your secret decoder ring and drank ovaltine. Pffftt

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, User said:

No such place existed 100 years ago.

Nothing exists before Oct 7 as far as a you're concerned.

[herbie]

Oh FFS give it up. You're squabbling with a bunch of fascists trying to redefine it so they can claim they're not.

Goes for those claiming to be "real" conservatives not just Magatts,

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[Deluge]

52 minutes ago, herbie said:

Oh FFS give it up. You're squabbling with a bunch of fascists trying to redefine it so they can claim they're not.

Goes for those claiming to be "real" conservatives not just Magatts,

Poor herpes, always going apeshit when he can't control the narrative. 

OK, let's start here: why don't you go ahead and explain how I am a fascist. 

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[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Nothing exists before Oct 7 as far as a you're concerned.

Lots of things exist. Just not the start of the war. 

55 minutes ago, herbie said:

Oh FFS give it up. You're squabbling with a bunch of fascists trying to redefine it so they can claim they're not.

Goes for those claiming to be "real" conservatives not just Magatts,

Translation: 

WAAAAAAAAAHHHHH PEOPLE ARE SO MEAN TO THE TERRORISTS AND I HATE IT WAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!

FFS, go praise allah and change your diapers 

[User]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

Nothing exists before Oct 7 as far as a you're concerned.

Here you go again, justifying and defending October 7th. 

Either way, the point remains, no such place as "Palestine" existed 100 years ago. So, what are you talking about?

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, User said:

Blah blah blah...

...no such place as "Palestine" existed 100 years ago. So, what are you talking about?

LMAO! I'm taking about the same place Greeks were talking about some 2500 years ago. Precursor names go back a lot longer. What do you imagine everyone's been talking about all this time?

In the meantime I'm pretty sure  deleting people from history and denying they ever existed the way you do is considered a crime against humanity because of the way it contributes to their genocide.

You probably just think you're exercising your right to free speech.

[User]

56 minutes ago, eyeball said:

LMAO! I'm taking about the same place Greeks were talking about some 2500 years ago. Precursor names go back a lot longer. What do you imagine everyone's been talking about all this time?

In the meantime I'm pretty sure  deleting people from history and denying they ever existed the way you do is considered a crime against humanity because of the way it contributes to their genocide.

You probably just think you're exercising your right to free speech.

I see you are back to your dishonest use of the quote feature. 

I never said blah blah blah, you put that in the quote box. It is one of the most dishonest things you can do on this forum. 

You are already a person of such low character for your deceitful and dishonest support of Hamas, so, of course you would keep doing this too. 

How are you talking about something 2500 years ago when you said 100 years ago?

 

[eyeball]

29 minutes ago, User said:

I never said blah blah blah, you put that in the quote box. It is one of the most dishonest things you can do on this forum.

Awwww.

36 minutes ago, User said:

How are you talking about something 2500 years ago when you said 100 years ago?

I'm sorry...you were saying something about dishonesty?

[User]

17 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I'm sorry...you were saying something about dishonesty?

Yes, you are still being dishonest. Instead of actually explaining what you were talking about existing 100 years ago, you change the subject. 

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Awwww.

I'm sorry...you were saying something about dishonesty?

LOL got caught changing quotes and arguing with that again i see    Classic eyeball, when you know you're losing you deny everything you've said and claim you never said it, pretend you were joking all along, and you create fake discussions with other people by pretending to quote them and then argue with that  

LOL i'd love to play poker with you someday. Your tells are so bad i'd own everything you have in 15 minutes   Not that that's worth much. 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, User said:

Yes, you are still being dishonest. Instead of actually explaining what you were talking about existing 100 years ago, you change the subject.

What are you babbling about exactly? 

The subject hasn't gone anywhere, it's still in the same place now as it has been for thousands of years.

 

[eyeball]

18 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

LOL got caught changing quotes and arguing with that again i see

Awww...takes a poor hard done by snowflake to commiserate with one I guess.

I never said blah blah blah, you put that in the quote box. It is one of the most dishonest things you can do on this forum. 😭

LMAO!

 

[CdnFox]

55 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Awww...takes a poor hard done by snowflake to commiserate with one I guess.

 

 

Yea that's what i was thinking. I saw you commiserating with Herbie so i figured i better give you some attention. We both know you get a little squirrely if you don't get paid attention to now and again  

Hey. I'm here for you   Big hug!

Edited 12 hours ago by CdnFox