Carney, Master Economist, Refuses To Table A Budget This Year.

eyeball · Sunday at 05:14 PM

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

They're right there above.

Show me.

Or fùck off

eyeball · Sunday at 05:20 PM

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

there exists no meaningful mechanism by which this can be done

To achieve accountability I said. Anyone can write a budget, you me, anyone.

Could we trust you to write one?

Why, how? Show us.

Legato · Sunday at 05:35 PM

12 minutes ago, eyeball said:

To achieve accountability I said. Anyone can write a budget, you me, anyone.

Could we trust you to write one?

Why, how? Show us.

Easy.

This is what comes in, this is what goes out, we need to borrow $100 billion.

CdnFox · Sunday at 06:03 PM

49 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Show me.

Or fùck off

I just did. Above.

Maybe if you cry a little harder it'll change?

CdnFox · Sunday at 06:07 PM

43 minutes ago, eyeball said:

To achieve accountability I said. Anyone can write a budget, you me, anyone.

No no no, according to you we havent' even had a real budget in decades!! Not since the days when they were hand typed by the minister

And a budget IS an instrument of accountability. "Here's what we're going to spend, here's what we're going to bring in, here's what we'll borrow". IT's the first step in holding a gov't accountable. That's why they call it "ACCOUNTING".

And i see you're t the 'rewriting what you said' stage, as i predicted.

At the end of the day only one budget will be voted on in the house, and that is the budget of the gov't who's responsible for executing it and who will be held to account if they don't.

That's always true but it's twice as true in a minority.

BlahTheCanuck · Sunday at 06:24 PM

Carney's initial decision not to release a budget when the country is in dire economic circumstances is outrageous, notwithstanding today's reversal due to public backlash.

eyeball · Sunday at 08:24 PM

2 hours ago, Legato said:

Easy.

This is what comes in, this is what goes out, we need to borrow $100 billion.

Easy as falling off a log right? Now, how do we tell if you're being honest?

This is the part dinglenuts thinks an x on a ballot does the trick. 🤣

CdnFox · Sunday at 08:49 PM

2 hours ago, BlahTheCanuck said:

Carney's initial decision not to release a budget when the country is in dire economic circumstances is outrageous, notwithstanding today's reversal due to public backlash.

For sure. This is especially true seeing as there isn't a change in gov't, the liberals were in power before. They're not seeing the books for the first time. And he was the libs' economic advisor, he knew what was what.

Blowing it off till september would have been somewhat forgivable sort of but trying to push it till next year was just intolerable arrogance.

25 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Easy as falling off a log right? Now, how do we tell if you're being honest?

This is the part dinglenuts thinks an x on a ballot does the trick. 🤣

Awww are you still butthurt for being called out on your dishonesty? I know i know, you don't think elections matter and aren't worth the time, but in fact they do matter.

And we know he's being honest because he has a history of being honest. Which is also how we know you're full of shit.

Legato · Sunday at 09:29 PM

59 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Easy as falling off a log right? Now, how do we tell if you're being honest?

This is the part dinglenuts thinks an x on a ballot does the trick. 🤣

I wouldn't know. If logs were easy to come by, why would anyone stand on one?

For that one would need good balance like Trudeau's budgets.

Maybe Carney can't find any logs to balance on.

CdnFox · Sunday at 09:47 PM

17 minutes ago, Legato said:

For that one would need good balance like Trudeau's budgets.

Maybe Carney can't find any logs to balance on.

He certainly can't find any budgets

eyeball · Monday at 01:42 AM

4 hours ago, Legato said:

I wouldn't know. If logs were easy to come by, why would anyone stand on one?

It's easier to walk around on logs than the ground when you're logging. Same when you're booming them up, swimming with caulk boots on is a bit of a chore.

eyeball · Monday at 02:05 AM

7 hours ago, CdnFox said:

No no no, according to you we havent' even had a real budget in decades!!

You think the huge omnibus budget bills that seem to be the new norm these days represent accountability? They set policies and make provisions and changes that often have little to nothing to do with a budget, they bypass legislative processes, contain pork for special interests and make democratic accountability more difficult.

Just to be sure, are you saying an x on a ballot every 4-5 years is all we need as voters or do you actually mean that's all we deserve?

CdnFox · Monday at 03:46 AM

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

You think the huge omnibus budget bills that seem to be the new norm these days represent accountability?

You think they don't?

A budget is a budget. It allows the gov't to be held responsible for their spending and their plans. The vote in the house is just an approval process it makes no difference whatever other legislation is bundled in, there's still a budget. Do you even know what an omnibus bill is?

Once again you play the lying twat and pretend otherwise to excuse the bad behavior of your beloved liberals, which you spend night and day here defending and then claim not to support

A budget is one of the primary accountability tools, and that is doubly true in a minority gov't. All your lies and whining and begging on behalf of the liberals does not change that.

eyeball · Monday at 04:12 AM

24 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You think they don't?

They set policies and make provisions and changes that often have little to nothing to do with a budget, they bypass legislative processes, contain pork for special interests and make democratic accountability more difficult.

Yeah, I guess you're right.

BTW...are you saying an x on a ballot every 4-5 years is all we need as voters or do you actually mean that's all we deserve?

CdnFox · Monday at 04:17 AM

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

They set policies and make provisions and changes that often have little to nothing to do with a budget

Two things that show you're kinda full of shit.

1) - like what. Give me a specific example from the 2024 budget bill that passed the house. And bills don't set policies btw.

2) they still inculde a budget. There was a budget presented and passed in 2024. And in fact it was a kerfuffle over the economic update from THAT SAME BUDGET that lead to trudeau being ousted after freeland said he was full of it and DID NOT live up to the budget.

So please, what was this terrible "omnibus" inclusion that erased the budget and explain how the budget wasn't relevant given that it lead to the direct downfall of the liberals and an election.

eyeball · Monday at 01:45 PM

9 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So please, what was this terrible "omnibus" inclusion that erased the budget and explain how the budget wasn't relevant given that it lead to the direct downfall of the liberals and an election.

Politics...Trudeau's insistence to send us all a cheque we didn't need against Freeland's advice and resignation.

Mice nuts compared to the the green slush fund don't you think?

CdnFox · Monday at 03:53 PM

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Politics...Trudeau's insistence to send us all a cheque we didn't need against Freeland's advice and resignation.

That was not the budget. That had nothing to do with the budget. That was about 7 or so months AFTER the budget, and he was desperate to pull something BECAUSE he was being held to account BY his previous budget figures and he'd missed them terribly and he was about to be held to account for that.

Literally not an example of an 'omnibus' anything, and actually an example of the budget being effective in holding someone to account. it actually lead to the downfall of the gov't that did not live up to it's budget.

eyeball · Monday at 04:35 PM

39 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

That was not the budget. That had nothing to do with the budget. That was about 7 or so months AFTER the budget...

The SD Tech Fund, aka the green slush fund, has been a budget item since 2001.

CdnFox · Monday at 04:43 PM

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

The SD Tech Fund, aka the green slush fund, has been a budget item since 2001.

That's part of a budget. That's not an "omnibus" bill.

And that WAS used to hold the gov't to account. Opposition parties saw the slush fund growing and started to demand to know where the expenditures were going and the gov't suddenly was in major trouble over it.

If there had been no budget then the money would just have been spent and nobody would be the wiser! Again, you're pointing out examples of the budget WORKING to hold gov'ts to account. And you haven't provided a single example of this 'omnibus' nonsense you've claimed.

You've been cornered by your own lies. Now in desperation to try and cover the fact that you made all of this shit up because you support the liberals and want to defend them not producing a budget you're actually providing examples that prove you were wrong.

Are you done looking stupid yet? Ready to admit you were full of shit? Because the rest of us already know you're the last one who's pretending otherwise

. Budgets are a primary way that governments are held to account. It forces them to announce what their plans are, how much they intend to spend to make these plans work, and whether or not the revenues coming in are appropriate and where the money is going. When carney tried to hold off till next spring to produce a budget he was attempting to evade transparency and accountability.

eyeball · Monday at 04:57 PM

9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

If there had been no budget then the money would just have been spent and nobody would be the wiser!

Sure sounds like your defending the Liberals budgeting accountability.

BTW, any been charged with corruption related to the slush fund? Funny how that works.

In any case it sound like a budget is forthcoming now so....you can cheer or cry about how accountable everything will be until then.

CdnFox · Monday at 05:39 PM

36 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Sure sounds like your defending the Liberals budgeting accountability.

Absolutely - it forced them to come clean about spending they wanted hidden. It lead to the downfall of justin on top of it.

The liberals were forced into accountability because they had to produce a budget.

Now that they've been bitten by having to be accountable, the liberals and carney don't want to be accountable like that any more. So they've tried NOT having a budget. But due to political pressure they're having to come up with one this year. They'll still look like tards when they present it late tho.

So here's the weird thing.

I look at the budget doing it's job and forcing accountability on a gov't, and i say "budgets are necessary"

You look at the same thing and say 'budgets don't really exist" which is false, then try "budgets are omnibus" which is utter nonsense and you can't provide an example of, and then say 'here's examples of why budget bad" and provide a number of examples of the gov't being held to account because of budgets.

And you get big mad when people say you're not really interested in accountability

If you cared, you'd have been the first in line to say 'carney should have to produce a budget'

eyeball · Monday at 07:57 PM

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Absolutely - it forced them to come clean about spending they wanted hidden.

There was nothing hidden about the $250 cheques Freeland objected to.

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

The liberals were forced into accountability because they had to produce a budget.

That's not what happened. Are you on LSD or something?

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You look at the same thing and say 'budgets don't really exist" which is false, then try "budgets are omnibus" which is utter nonsense and you can't provide an example of, and then say 'here's examples of why budget bad" and provide a number of examples of the gov't being held to account because of budgets.

And you get big mad when people say you're not really interested in accountability

If you cared, you'd have been the first in line to say 'carney should have to produce a budget'

Ah, you're on mushrooms.

BTW...are you going to answer whether an x on a ballot every 4-5 years is all we need as voters or do you actually mean that's all we deserve? You seem to be running away from this.

Edited Monday at 08:00 PM by eyeball

CdnFox · Monday at 08:21 PM

17 minutes ago, eyeball said:

There was nothing hidden about the $250 cheques Freeland objected to.

it wasn't in the budget, that came out in the fiscal update when they had to explain additional expenses.

So... because of the budget they couldn't hide it.

You're digging yourself deeper and deeper.

19 minutes ago, eyeball said:

That's not what happened. Are you on LSD or something?

That is precisely what happened. And of course you're trying to deny it to support the libs yet again.

20 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Ah, you're on mushrooms.

So no, you DON"T have any intelligent argument to make and you're just a liberal mouthpiece. I'll pretend to be shocked.

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BTW...are you going to answer whether an x on a ballot every 4-5 years is all we need as voters

The vast majority of our gov't these days are minorities (somewhat ironically) so you mean every 1.5 to 2 years

And i have no idea what you mean by "all we need". Neither i nor anyone else has suggested that ever. In fact, i'm literally here arguing that we need a budget, so that was a pretty stupid question.

taxme · Monday at 08:47 PM

On 5/16/2025 at 4:59 PM, CdnFox said:

The ndp ARE the liberals. Or have been for the last 4 years.

That fool is the reason why we have another Marxist dictator in Ottawa again. The last ten years have been a disaster for Canada and Canadians. Lieberal socialism has and is not working. Socialism ruins everything it touches. This fool only wants and believes in more taxes, more government and less freedom. What a stoopid mor0n indeed. 👎

taxme · Monday at 08:54 PM

On 5/16/2025 at 8:55 AM, Politics1990 said:

hopefully carney comes thru as a decent to average prime minister cause its the last chance i am giving the liberals . if he turns out to be a meh pm i am going back to the NDP and staying there lol🤣

Corney will come thru for himself. What will change if you go back to the NDP socialists? I know? Not a dam bloody thing will change. The NDP are even worse than the lieberals. Canada will surely go communism with the NDP imbeciles in power. All the NDP will do is raise and create more new taxes, create more big government and freedom will slowly be eliminated. NDP stunned people like you are truly insane. Look at those countries that have gone socialist. They are bankrupt and totally corrupt. Give your socialist head a shake, will ya comrade. 🤡