Canada's Concentration of Power: Check your money

[August1991]

Open your wallet.  Take out a blue five of Laurier or a green twenty of the Queen.

Look carefully at the name who signed as Governor.

It is likely the name of M. Carney (that's how he signed it at the time).

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We now have a PM who signed our money - and worked at GoldmanSachs.

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Pierre Trudeau warned against the concentration of power.

IMV, as individuals, our best protection is a federal system: sovereign states within a federal constitution.

 

[herbie]

When I was in Grade 2 I told the teacher I wanted to be the guy who signs all the paper money.
Even signed all my Monopoly money with the name B.G. Bumbley. You made me remember that far back...

[August1991]

On 5/14/2025 at 12:10 PM, herbie said:

When I was in Grade 2 I told the teacher I wanted to be the guy who signs all the paper money.
Even signed all my Monopoly money with the name B.G. Bumbley. You made me remember that far back...

What was the Monopoly guy's name?

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In Canada, our only protection against the concentration of power is the provincial PMs.

Trudeau Snr managed to create a Charter. It sorta works.

[August1991]

On 5/14/2025 at 12:10 PM, herbie said:

When I was in Grade 2 I told the teacher I wanted to be the guy who signs all the paper money.
Even signed all my Monopoly money with the name B.G. Bumbley. You made me remember that far back...

You wanted to be Mark Carney!

[eyeball]

On 5/13/2025 at 9:21 PM, August1991 said:

We now have a PM who signed our money - and worked at GoldmanSachs.

He also worked at avoiding taxes for clients - now he's a tax collector.

Square that circle.

[herbie]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Square that circle.

Not really, investment advisors are supposed to show you how the avoid taxes (legally) and Prime Ministers are supposed to ensure taxes get collect. So he's still doing what he's supposed to do.

Some people wold have you believe the Credit Union advisor that tells you to dump some of your Savings Account into a TFSA is some sort of criminal.

I had friends who acted like I was for pointing out Honeymoon Tax breaks, the old cottage one, the old lifetime Capital Gains credit. leasing the car in the business name, and other loopholes.
Hell there's so many tax loopholes it's more than obvious they want you to start your own business instead of whining that someone else won't give you a job.

[blackbird]

On 5/15/2025 at 6:43 PM, August1991 said:

Trudeau Snr managed to create a Charter. It sorta works.

Do you know what the Charter did?  It allowed all the mentally ill people to be released from mental institutions and left on the street to start committing criminal offences and stabbing people.  The Supreme Court and powers that be thought communities would take care of all the mentally ill.  It never happened.  Communities don't have the resources or ability to do that.

It also made catch and release of dangerous offenders the norm.

It made parole for dangerous offenders more likely, especially if one is a FN offender.  That's what led to the mass killing of a dozen people in the Cree Nation in Saskatchewan a few years ago.

That's an example of the Supreme Court interprets the Charter.

Edited Monday at 08:13 AM by blackbird

[herbie]

11 hours ago, blackbird said:

It made parole for dangerous offenders more likely, especially if one is a FN offender.  That's what led to the mass killing of a dozen people in the Cree Nation in Saskatchewan a few years ago.

Oh the Constitution did that did it? Your opinion is once again simply disgusting.

The Diefenbaker era we don't need a Charter of Rights, a Constitution, bilingualism or our own flag is long gone, thank God and only lives on in the fevered dreams of dinosaurs.

[blackbird]

52 minutes ago, herbie said:

The Diefenbaker era we don't need a Charter of Rights, a Constitution, bilingualism or our own flag is long gone, thank God and only lives on in the fevered dreams of dinosaurs.

Surprise, surprise.  It was the Right Honourable Prime Minister, John Deifenbaker, who brought in the Bill of Rights in 1960.

Pierre Trudeau brought in a Charter of Rights in 1982, however this was long after the 1960 Bill of Rights and was largely a copycat work of John Deifenbaker's conservative government's Bill or Rights.

The problem is not what is written down in these documents.  The problem is the liberal-appointed Supreme Court judges and liberal party/polician's wild liberal way of interpreting the rights in the Constitution.  Liberals made the soft-on-crime laws that grant bail to practically everyone and parole to practically everyone, especially FNs.

The judges and liberals determined that the go-to goal should be to bend over backwards to release FNs people from custody.  That is why they release dangerous offenders and that is why a dozen FNs people were murdered in Saskatchewan a few years ago by a FN offender released on parole who should never have been.

Here is the 1960 Bill of Rights

canadian-bill-rights-eng.pdf

 

 

Edited Monday at 08:41 PM by blackbird

[blackbird]

The Charter of Rights apparently can be interpreted by the Supreme Court almost any way they wish.  Whatever they decree it is so.  There is no higher appeal from the SCC rulings.  They are the final word on what a few sentences in the Charter mean even though sometimes there is nothing in the Charter remotely resembling the SCC decisions.

An example is"

"The Supreme Court of Canada ruled in Carter v. Canada that parts of the Criminal Code would need to change to satisfy the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The parts that prohibited medical assistance in dying would no longer be valid. The ruling only applies to competent adults with enduring, intolerable suffering who clearly consent to ending their lives123."

However MAID has been allowed for people to make prior authorization and it has been used for people who are not experiencing enduring, intolerable suffering.   MAID is currently scheduled to be offered to people solely with mental issues as of March 17, 2027.

  There is nothing in the Charter of Rights that gives anyone the right to receive MAID or medical assistance in dying.  This is purely a fabrication by the SCC and liberal politicians.

If anyone can find where MAID is even referred to in the Charter, please let us know.  I could not find anything on it.

Edited Monday at 09:15 PM by blackbird

[herbie]

I'm well aware of Dief's half-ass attempt at a Charter of Rights and how that was all we needed. As well as Tory opposition to everything else other than truh-dition since.

[eyeball]

16 hours ago, herbie said:

Not really, investment advisors are supposed to show you how the avoid taxes (legally) and Prime Ministers are supposed to ensure taxes get collect. So he's still doing what he's supposed to do.

Let's just hope he's as good at making sure everyone's paying their fair share. The caveat being there's no clear consensus on what that means.

[herbie]

 

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

The caveat being there's no clear consensus on what that means.

There is far more than a consensus there is clearly spelled out and published tx law. That people choose to not understand it invalidates their opinion.
Rule #1 is that nobody is required to pay more tax than is legally required. Neither MegaCorp Ltd. nor you.
If someone is using a loophole that you can't that' simply too bad for you.

There was a law that said you could write off business lunches, and about 20 years ago they changed it to 50% of the cost. Do you know how many cafes lost revenue and servers lost their jobs? It cost literally half the staff and a 1/3 of the diners in this town, Managers no longer taking employees and clients for lunch, no meetings over beer & wings, smaller outfits no longer hosting Smas parties or employee reward nights?
Sure some of those gatherings still happen but do you want to go to many work socials if you have to pay?

Unintended consequences with every change. Look at the shit over the Capital gains last year when hardly any posters here ever claimed one or even know WTF they are. And again over the GST on houses. If your house is $2 million you don't even pay GST unless it's a brand new house, and if it is $1.95 million doesn't make it more 'affordable'.

[August1991]

On 5/26/2025 at 4:10 AM, blackbird said:

Do you know what the Charter did?

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As you wish.

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Control? Same as power. These Leftists want control.

[eyeball]

23 hours ago, herbie said:

There is far more than a consensus there is clearly spelled out and published tx law. That people choose to not understand it invalidates their opinion.
Rule #1 is that nobody is required to pay more tax than is legally required. Neither MegaCorp Ltd. nor you.
If someone is using a loophole that you can't that' simply too bad for you.

And if there's an army of lobbyists forever beavering away to expand ways to avoid taxes then good on everyone?

Okay.

[herbie]

They've been lobbying to stop the govt from closing them for decades is more like it.

Name a "new" loophole.