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[robosmith]

7 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/grumpy-economist-weighs-inflations-causes-its-cures

John Cochrane: In my analysis, inflation mostly came from the government’s $5 trillion in COVID and post-COVID deficits. The government essentially sent people $5 trillion with no plans to pay the money back. People tried to spend it, driving up prices. The Fed eventually raising interest rates made inflation come down a bit faster than it would have otherwise, but it was going to go away on its own anyway. There is no magic momentum to inflation. Stop pushing, and it stops.

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Deficit = inflation

Inflation = deficit

 

Just like I said: inflation due to deficit stimulus which accelerated RECOVERY, and led to our BEST in the WEST economy ahead of all other Western nations. Biden learned from Obama's inadequate stimulus which made recovery take much longer than necessary.

Do you understand now?

[gatomontes99]

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

Just like I said: inflation due to deficit stimulus which accelerated RECOVERY, and led to our BEST in the WEST economy ahead of all other Western nations. Biden learned from Obama's inadequate stimulus which made recovery take much longer than necessary.

Do you understand now?

Best economy? Despite spending $5T we still had two consecutive quarters of retraction and lost a huge chunk of our work force while driving inflation to record highs.

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

You don't post evidence IN GENERAL because you believe you're an expert who doesn't need evidence.

You've posted NOTHING which proves supply chair disruptions were not due to COVID.

Probably because you're IGNORANT of the near complete COVID shutdowns in China which is a MAJOR SUPPLIER to the US.

Brandon took a bad situation and made it worse. That's the fact. Deal with it or don't.

[SpankyMcFarland]

On 5/8/2025 at 7:19 PM, robosmith said:

No one has signed the deal. It is still "evolving." LMAO

‘England’ will not sign any deal with Trump. England is a non-sovereign country. The term is used by a certain sort of American to refer to the UK. 

[CdnFox]

9 hours ago, robosmith said:

Just like I said: inflation due to deficit stimulus which accelerated RECOVERY, and led to our BEST in the WEST economy ahead of all other Western nations. Biden learned from Obama's inadequate stimulus which made recovery take much longer than necessary.

Do you understand now?

None of that's true kiddo. Other than the fact that excessive government spending in general led to higher inflation

[Hodad]

On 5/12/2025 at 7:19 PM, WestCanMan said:

Stop trying to tell us what you think the truth is, Hodad. 50% of the things that you say are stupid and the other 50% are dishonest. 

Coming from a guy who is 100% dishonest, I suppose that means 50% of what I say is smart. So looking good for me. 

 

[Hodad]

On 5/12/2025 at 4:07 PM, Nationalist said:

Yes. And its a damn sight more truthful than the bought and paid for garbage you post...Tweenkie-Poo.

The Brandon and Co. economy was inflationary, destructive and a bald-faced lie.

Sure, Dummy. We can't trust any of the economic metrics that we have used for decades because they don't conform to your political narrative. 

"Don't believe the data! It's all a lie (except if it is convenient)! Believe the random shit I say instead."

Good luck selling that.

[Nationalist]

27 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Sure, Dummy. We can't trust any of the economic metrics that we have used for decades because they don't conform to your political narrative. 

"Don't believe the data! It's all a lie (except if it is convenient)! Believe the random shit I say instead."

Good luck selling that.

That's right...Dummy.

What did your "economic metrics" tell you? That the government hiring hundreds of thousands in a bureaucratic spending spree, counted as real market employment numbers. They told you that the US economy is wonderful...compared to other recovering economies, from a bug that was used as an excuse to shut the fcking world down. Imposing rules that were insane. Claiming to be saving lives...with no actual proof. The overreaction was mean spirited and obviously born of a need for control. But it was the WRONG thing to do. The Rona eventually burnt out and there is nothing that truly supports the idea that masks, 6' distancing, shutting down business and schools, or that blessed Trump Vaccine...had anything what-so-ever to do with that. In fact...the facts we do have and can measure, reveal that it was all folly and damaging physically AND psychologically to many people.

So...I do believe your holy data. I also believe what I witnessed.

And then...the cherry on top of all that folly...you dumb little sh1ts decided...'Hey! Let's fck-up the fossil fuel industry while the economy is shut down. That'll REALLY screw things up.'

For all the reasons above, and a boatload of others, you Libbies have proven you ARE NOT FIT FOR LEADERDSHIP!

Now take your Holier Than Thou chickenshit and go play in the highway like a good little Libbie.

[Hodad]

5 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

That's right...Dummy.

What did your "economic metrics" tell you? That the government hiring hundreds of thousands in a bureaucratic spending spree, counted as real market employment numbers. They told you that the US economy is wonderful...compared to other recovering economies, from a bug that was used as an excuse to shut the fcking world down. Imposing rules that were insane. Claiming to be saving lives...with no actual proof. The overreaction was mean spirited and obviously born of a need for control. But it was the WRONG thing to do. The Rona eventually burnt out and there is nothing that truly supports the idea that masks, 6' distancing, shutting down business and schools, or that blessed Trump Vaccine...had anything what-so-ever to do with that. In fact...the facts we do have and can measure, reveal that it was all folly and damaging physically AND psychologically to many people.

So...I do believe your holy data. I also believe what I witnessed.

And then...the cherry on top of all that folly...you dumb little sh1ts decided...'Hey! Let's fck-up the fossil fuel industry while the economy is shut down. That'll REALLY screw things up.'

For all the reasons above, and a boatload of others, you Libbies have proven you ARE NOT FIT FOR LEADERDSHIP!

Now take your Holier Than Thou chickenshit and go play in the highway like a good little Libbie.

As a very dumb person you can be excused for not understanding the world. Just stop trying to pretend otherwise and go drink some more.  
1. Yes, outperforming other economies that are dealing with the same headwinds is still outperforming.

2. Federal employment typically grows. It grew 6% under Biden, particularly in response to PACT act VA hiring and IRA-driven hiring at the IRS, but even moreso in response to COVID recovery. As the world opened back up, government employees also returned to work. Duh. But all of the federal workforce amounts to less than 2% of the total workforce. You would have to be pretty dumb to think that a meager 6% growth in 2% of the total workforce was propping up the entire economy. So dumb. -- For perspective, which you desperately need, here is government employment for the last 50 years. Guess where you don't find an anomalous spike, hmmm?


3. Nobody messed with the fossil fuel industry. (Though perhaps we should have.) That's just another of your dumb fantasies with no relationship to reality. The fact is that we were pumping domestic oil faster under Biden than under Trump and we were a net energy exporter. Again (and for at least a dozen times) here are the numbers.

 

 

 

 

Any competent person could look at these numbers and stop repeating "some dumb thing" you heard on Fox news. You don't trust data though, not because there's anything suspicious about the data, but because you simply don't understand data. Like a dog watching TV. And people of a certain persuasion don't trust what they don't understand. Easier to navigate life as a cultish follower. Requires a lot less work. 

[robosmith]

8 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Brandon took a bad situation and made it worse. That's the fact. Deal with it or don't.

You STILL have nothing which disproves The ECONOMIST'S detailed explanation why Biden's economy was "the envy of the world." Duh

Your mere claims are DELUSIONAL.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

That's right...Dummy.

What did your "economic metrics" tell you? That the government hiring hundreds of thousands in a bureaucratic spending spree, counted as real market employment numbers. They told you that the US economy is wonderful...compared to other recovering economies, from a bug that was used as an excuse to shut the fcking world down. Imposing rules that were insane. Claiming to be saving lives...with no actual proof. The overreaction was mean spirited and obviously born of a need for control. But it was the WRONG thing to do. The Rona eventually burnt out and there is nothing that truly supports the idea that masks, 6' distancing, shutting down business and schools, or that blessed Trump Vaccine...had anything what-so-ever to do with that. In fact...the facts we do have and can measure, reveal that it was all folly and damaging physically AND psychologically to many people.

So...I do believe your holy data. I also believe what I witnessed.

And then...the cherry on top of all that folly...you dumb little sh1ts decided...'Hey! Let's fck-up the fossil fuel industry while the economy is shut down. That'll REALLY screw things up.'

For all the reasons above, and a boatload of others, you Libbies have proven you ARE NOT FIT FOR LEADERDSHIP!

Now take your Holier Than Thou chickenshit and go play in the highway like a good little Libbie.

See: ^there you go again pretending YOUR BULLSHIT sans EVIDENCE means something. LMAO

The Economist are the experts and all you've got is BULLSHIT.

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

As a very dumb person you can be excused for not understanding the world. Just stop trying to pretend otherwise and go drink some more.  
1. Yes, outperforming other economies that are dealing with the same headwinds is still outperforming.

2. Federal employment typically grows. It grew 6% under Biden, particularly in response to PACT act VA hiring and IRA-driven hiring at the IRS, but even moreso in response to COVID recovery. As the world opened back up, government employees also returned to work. Duh. But all of the federal workforce amounts to less than 2% of the total workforce. You would have to be pretty dumb to think that a meager 6% growth in 2% of the total workforce was propping up the entire economy. So dumb. -- For perspective, which you desperately need, here is government employment for the last 50 years. Guess where you don't find an anomalous spike, hmmm?


3. Nobody messed with the fossil fuel industry. (Though perhaps we should have.) That's just another of your dumb fantasies with no relationship to reality. The fact is that we were pumping domestic oil faster under Biden than under Trump and we were a net energy exporter. Again (and for at least a dozen times) here are the numbers.

 

 

 

 

Any competent person could look at these numbers and stop repeating "some dumb thing" you heard on Fox news. You don't trust data though, not because there's anything suspicious about the data, but because you simply don't understand data. Like a dog watching TV. And people of a certain persuasion don't trust what they don't understand. Easier to navigate life as a cultish follower. Requires a lot less work. 

And that's why you fail.

https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-releases-report-on-the-biden-administrations-detrimental-green-new-deal-agenda/

and

https://americansforprosperity.org/blog/biden-policies-raising-gas-prices/

You assume your arguments mean something in the face of the obvious contradictions to your position.

1. The US economy under Brandon was stunted severely by Brandon's own policies.

2. To claim a "great economy" or even an acceptable economy because other nations had it worse...does not feed the Bulldog.

3. Very few people...excepting you silly Libbies...put any stock in what your "experts" have to say. The reason for that is simple...your "experts" tend to be dead wrong and found to have been lying with a regularity that would make any constipated old fart envious.

Now...again...take your seething lies, your demeaning insults and your holier than thou attitude...and Go Fck Yourself!

We KNOW what happened and how because we saw and experienced it all...you fcking pompous a55!

[robosmith]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

And that's why you fail.

https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-releases-report-on-the-biden-administrations-detrimental-green-new-deal-agenda/

and

https://americansforprosperity.org/blog/biden-policies-raising-gas-prices/

You assume your arguments mean something in the face of the obvious contradictions to your position.

1. The US economy under Brandon was stunted severely by Brandon's own policies.

2. To claim a "great economy" or even an acceptable economy because other nations had it worse...does not feed the Bulldog.

3. Very few people...excepting you silly Libbies...put any stock in what your "experts" have to say. The reason for that is simple...your "experts" tend to be dead wrong and found to have been lying with a regularity that would make any constipated old fart envious.

Now...again...take your seething lies, your demeaning insults and your holier than thou attitude...and Go Fck Yourself!

We KNOW what happened and how because we saw and experienced it all...you fcking pompous a55!

All you got is House RepubliCON propaganda. LMAO

[Hodad]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

And that's why you fail.

https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-releases-report-on-the-biden-administrations-detrimental-green-new-deal-agenda/

and

https://americansforprosperity.org/blog/biden-policies-raising-gas-prices/

You assume your arguments mean something in the face of the obvious contradictions to your position.

1. The US economy under Brandon was stunted severely by Brandon's own policies.

2. To claim a "great economy" or even an acceptable economy because other nations had it worse...does not feed the Bulldog.

3. Very few people...excepting you silly Libbies...put any stock in what your "experts" have to say. The reason for that is simple...your "experts" tend to be dead wrong and found to have been lying with a regularity that would make any constipated old fart envious.

Now...again...take your seething lies, your demeaning insults and your holier than thou attitude...and Go Fck Yourself!

We KNOW what happened and how because we saw and experienced it all...you fcking pompous a55!

Why I fail? Jeebus. They are just numbers. Facts. And your response is naked links to overt propaganda. 

The bolded part is about the only thing you're right on. "Conservatives" have moved into a post-fact world, so they don't need data or expertise. They only need to be told what their masters need them to believe moment-to-moment. 

You don't know what happened or how because you have neither information nor education to work with. Worse, you're not even remotely bothered by those deficiencies. Why would you need to learn things when your master will tell you what's really real. 

[gatomontes99]

4 hours ago, Hodad said:

Coming from a guy who is 100% dishonest, I suppose that means 50% of what I say is smart. So looking good for me. 

 

50% is still failing.

Nice self own.

[Hodad]

6 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

50% is still failing.

Nice self own.

Oh, I think it's all relative. Talk to me when you break double digits. 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

Why I fail? Jeebus. They are just numbers. Facts. And your response is naked links to overt propaganda. 

The bolded part is about the only thing you're right on. "Conservatives" have moved into a post-fact world, so they don't need data or expertise. They only need to be told what their masters need them to believe moment-to-moment. 

You don't know what happened or how because you have neither information nor education to work with. Worse, you're not even remotely bothered by those deficiencies. Why would you need to learn things when your master will tell you what's really real. 

Yes. That's why you fail.

1. "The USA had the best economic recovery in the world." https://www.covidrecoveryindex.org/ranking

No it did not.

2.

giggle...

The people have spoken.

 

[gatomontes99]

51 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Oh, I think it's all relative. Talk to me when you break double digits. 

Yes, I'll be sure to tell you when I am wrong in the double digits.

[robosmith]

37 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Yes. That's why you fail.

1. "The USA had the best economic recovery in the world." https://www.covidrecoveryindex.org/ranking

No it did not.

The ECONOMIST said "envy of the world."

#7 on your list by a group with 4 Phd's,  behind pygmy nations..

Bet you won't be looking to move to Finland. LMAO

 

37 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

2.

giggle...

The people have spoken.

 

^giggle girl is NOT "the people." Duh

 

 

 

[Hodad]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Yes. That's why you fail.

1. "The USA had the best economic recovery in the world." https://www.covidrecoveryindex.org/ranking

No it did not.

2.

giggle...

The people have spoken.

 

Sigh. I don't know who your are pretending to quote with those quotation marks. This should go without saying, but clearly it can't. A recovery index--whatever it's formula and provenance-- measures recovery rather than a total economy. 

It's the simple difference between the best player and the most-improved-in-a-specific-dimension player. 

But even if you continue to misunderstand that ranking, don't you feel dumb for whining about the Biden economy--which you pretend in contradiction to all evidence was terrible-- that shows up at #7 on the list of your own cite? 😂  Didn't really think that through, did you? Par.

 

[Nationalist]

24 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Sigh. I don't know who your are pretending to quote with those quotation marks. This should go without saying, but clearly it can't. A recovery index--whatever it's formula and provenance-- measures recovery rather than a total economy. 

It's the simple difference between the best player and the most-improved-in-a-specific-dimension player. 

But even if you continue to misunderstand that ranking, don't you feel dumb for whining about the Biden economy--which you pretend in contradiction to all evidence was terrible-- that shows up at #7 on the list of your own cite? 😂  Didn't really think that through, did you? Par.

 

Yes I did. Just another example of Libbie lies.

Almost all of which, as we know, is a lie.

You dopes fooled nobody and you lost the election.

But please...continue..